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Got an interview to be a math teacher
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But I dunno man... I've been "unemployed" for over a year now.

I use quotes because unemployed means without, but seeking employment.  It's more accurate to say I've been sitting in my apartment, on my couch, drinking beer in my underwear for over a year now.

Anywayyy... the local public school district is desperate for math teachers.  I worked for them for a while a couple years ago, while I was still at university.  I've also tutored on and off for a couple years, starting when I was in college (I got a math degree), and I figured what the hell, I'll apply.

Well, I applied Friday night and during Monday I got a call from a very desperate sounding principal wanting to meet with me ASAP.

I was really excited about applying... until I got the call.  Now, I kind of just want to... keep doing nothing.  My friends and family keep telling me I'm a great teacher, and I've got references from physicians whose homeschooled kids I tutored, to the CEO of a large company in my metropolitan area writing recommendations for me.

Thing is... I'm really a misanthrope.  I really can't stand being around people most of the time (which is why I don't like to leave my apartment, except to go to the pool or buy beer) and I don't know how I'd do teaching a boatload of kids who don't want to learn maths.  It's easy enough teaching kids who want to learn and improve their grades, but this school hasn't been accredited for years because their SOL scores are so low, and my parent's friends who teach in the public school system here are warning me it's going to be a challenge.  I was lucky growing up, as I went to private schools and had parents who FORCED me to do my homework every night and work on math during the summers, so I was always ahead, but most of these kids I'm sure aren't going to have that kind of structure.

I feel like they might like me and pay attention more, because I'd be way weirder/wackier/more sarcastic than the average teacher, but I don't know if I could help their performance.

So basically, I have two options... I can go for the interview, probably get the job (because apparently no one else who is qualified has applied), or I can come up with a reason not to or blow the interview intentionally.

Now, I know what I *should* do here, I think.  I probably *should* give it a try, get out of my comfort zone, and try to help some undereducated and underprivileged kids.  At the very worst, I would get my teaching license during the year they contract me for, and possibly get canned at the end of the year if their SOL scores suck too much.  On the other hand, I suppose I could turn some lives around.

People keep telling me "if you help even one kid, it's worth it", but the school system and the government sure as shit don't see it that way, and getting canned over SOL scores would suck nuts.

My wife wants me to take the job so we'll have a second salary and can rent a house (we already can on hers, but we'd have more options, and more beer money for me if we had a second salary), but I think my parents are giving us their house in the spring anyway, so I don't know if it's worth the bother (my father is retiring and wants to build a couple more houses in other states, and keep this house in the family).  Also, the benefits would be nice (but I already have really quality health insurance).  Fucking first world problems, man.

Anyway... what would you guys do?  Imagining that you're a misanthropic loner who actively avoids human contact and is frightened of the idea of being surrounded by high schoolers again, and having your performance judged by their performance.  If companies all worked that way, managers could be fired for the incompetence of underlings, rather than the underlings just getting fired.  But noooo, not the school system.


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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: DragonChaser] * 2
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Sounds like you have always had a pretty easy life regarding money, which isn't the case for me or any of my family so idk your point of veiw. But I wouldn't hesitate to take this job since you already have teaching experience.


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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: DragonChaser]
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Take the job dude. One of my buddies wife works in some fancy science job testing rats and addiction and just got a $20,000 raise. More than he makes in a year. But he still works at ihop and deliveres pizzas at night. Least you could do is help some kids man.


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I fucking hate grammer nazis! Yes, I can't spell. Yes, I don't have perfect grammer. I post from my phone and dont give a shit about people whose lifes are so boring they get off on putting people down for not having perfect fucking grammer, even though they know excactly what there saying.. Fuck You. It's just a ride mang...

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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: Distorted Vision]
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You're right, I won't lie, I've been lucky and privileged.  I pretty much grew up without my dad as he left for work before I got up before school and went to sleep before he got home; he was only around when I was to be punished, pretty much.

My mother was stay at home for a while, then started a number of her own businesses (which my father funded to keep her happy).

I love my dad for sure, but he's a workaholic.  Wish he would have been around more.  But he grew up in the "if you provide and don't beat the fuck out of your family, you're automatically a good father/husband" generation.

So yeah... I had a lot of opportunities and wanted for little growing up.  I didn't get the '72 Corvette for my 18th birthday like I wanted, but cry me a fucking river (he had to pick me up from the cops a few days before my birthday).  I didn't realize how privileged me and all my friends were until I got out of college and found out what starting salaries were like in most fields.

My dad is in energy production and currently makes around a quarter million a year; I guess he's got around 2 mil in investments and another 400K or so in Krugerrand (sounds fucking weird, but he has them), and more in property he owns.  It'll make for a nice inheritance, but I suppose until then I have to do something instead of living off his largesse, right?  I mean, unlike some of my high school friends, I wasn't a trust fundie kid.

I think the thing I'm most afraid of is trying and failing, or actively being dominated by a room full of kids.  When I worked for the school system before, there was always a teacher around to keep them under control.  I flip a shit too easily, and cuss too easily, but I think I could manage myself if I had to.


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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: Distorted Vision]
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I say give it a shot man.  You really have nothing to loose.  Getting canned because of the SOL scores is no worse than blowing of the interview and such.  I have to teach a class this Fall because I need the money, but I really don't want to.  It can be very satisfying when you see the light bulb flash on.  That's my two cents, but do what you want.

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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: huffinglue]
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Just try to do notes and lecture, maybe tell some bullshit stories once in awhile, make them do hands on work in note books so they can go at their own speed and learn something while in school.

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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: DragonChaser]
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DragonChaser said:
You're right, I won't lie, I've been lucky and privileged.  I pretty much grew up without my dad as he left for work before I got up before school and went to sleep before he got home; he was only around when I was to be punished, pretty much.

My mother was stay at home for a while, then started a number of her own businesses (which my father funded to keep her happy).

I love my dad for sure, but he's a workaholic.  Wish he would have been around more.  But he grew up in the "if you provide and don't beat the fuck out of your family, you're automatically a good father/husband" generation.

So yeah... I had a lot of opportunities and wanted for little growing up.  I didn't get the '72 Corvette for my 18th birthday like I wanted, but cry me a fucking river (he had to pick me up from the cops a few days before my birthday).  I didn't realize how privileged me and all my friends were until I got out of college and found out what starting salaries were like in most fields.

My dad is in energy production and currently makes around a quarter million a year; I guess he's got around 2 mil in investments and another 400K or so in Krugerrand (sounds fucking weird, but he has them), and more in property he owns.  It'll make for a nice inheritance, but I suppose until then I have to do something instead of living off his largesse, right?  I mean, unlike some of my high school friends, I wasn't a trust fundie kid.

I think the thing I'm most afraid of is trying and failing, or actively being dominated by a room full of kids.  When I worked for the school system before, there was always a teacher around to keep them under control.  I flip a shit too easily, and cuss too easily, but I think I could manage myself if I had to.




Take the job, save and then invest.
Playing with stocks or any kind of investment is fun (seriously, it's addicting and interesting if you treat it like a video game and just keep racking up points you can get amazing highs but also decrepit lows)


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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: Konyap]
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physicist said:
I say give it a shot man.  You really have nothing to loose.  Getting canned because of the SOL scores is no worse than blowing of the interview and such.  I have to teach a class this Fall because I need the money, but I really don't want to.  It can be very satisfying when you see the light bulb flash on.  That's my two cents, but do what you want.



I suppose I don't have anything to lose... getting fired over SOL scores can't be worse than lengthening the periods of unemployment already on my employment history, can it?

I don't know how I'm going to explain the ones I already have.  Like, "uhh, well, my father is wealthy and my mother is indulgent so he paid my rents and bills while I traveled and relaxed, trying to find my place in life.  After he paid for 7.5 years of college."

aiyobro said:
Just try to do notes and lecture, maybe tell some bullshit stories once in awhile, make them do hands on work in note books so they can go at their own speed and learn something while in school.



Hey that's a good idea!  Making students keep notebooks that I could check every Friday!  Fucking A, I knew I'd get some good advice on here... I'm afraid a lot of them will just blow homework off, but if I have them keep binders/notebooks with class notes, class work and homework, I think it'd be much easier to gauge their progress and understanding.  Thanks man!  5 shrooms to you if I haven't rated you yet (though I think I have).


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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: DragonChaser]
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Make something out of your life.

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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: TimmehSydney]
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TimmehSydney said:
Take the job, save and then invest.
Playing with stocks or any kind of investment is fun (seriously, it's addicting and interesting if you treat it like a video game and just keep racking up points you can get amazing highs but also decrepit lows)



I don't know about that... I let my father handle my investments.  I'm a bad gambler dude, I remember the first time he took me to a casino.  I kept having to bum more money off him because I couldn't leave the blackjack table.  I've never messed with stocks because of that specific reason.  I don't even know what he has my money invested in.  I thought about doing a sneak and peek on his and my investments recently to figure out just how much is there and what it's invested in (I can get into the locked cabinet where he keeps all the paperwork) but I've been too lazy to do so.


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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: DragonChaser]
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DragonChaser said:
TimmehSydney said:
Take the job, save and then invest.
Playing with stocks or any kind of investment is fun (seriously, it's addicting and interesting if you treat it like a video game and just keep racking up points you can get amazing highs but also decrepit lows)



I don't know about that... I let my father handle my investments.  I'm a bad gambler dude, I remember the first time he took me to a casino.  I kept having to bum more money off him because I couldn't leave the blackjack table.  I've never messed with stocks because of that specific reason.  I don't even know what he has my money invested in.  I thought about doing a sneak and peek on his and my investments recently to figure out just how much is there and what it's invested in (I can get into the locked cabinet where he keeps all the paperwork) but I've been too lazy to do so.



Well in that case you should definitely get to know the students on a personal level on the first day, a great way to do this would be to use ice.

You know what to do  :yeahthatsright:


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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: 2Experimental]
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2Experimental said:
Make something out of your life.



I am quite the beer connoisseur, thank you.

In fact, I taught my dad how to brew beer, since his dream is to open a restaurant/bar after he retires and builds the houses he wants to get built.  I built him a microbrewery in his basement for a father's day gift a few years back (I'd been brewing wine since I was 14 or 15, adapting it to beer wasn't hard... I did use his money to build it though).

I also have a successful black carpenter ant colony.  I'm their deity.  I think that's an accomplishment.

I'm also married to a wonderful woman... her family thinks I'm a bum, and I have to agree, but she loves me.  Before she became a bank manager I taught her how to grow fungus. 

There's more, but I think I have a fair bit accomplished...  In all seriousness, I'm really afraid of failure.  Getting fired doesn't scare me so much, it's if the kids don't do well, that would crush me.  Whenever I had a student that I was tutoring who would improve, then suddenly start doing poorly because they stopped studying, I would obsess over it and blame myself.  I'd be crushed if that happened to an entire class. 

I quit my cushy corporate job last summer, even though my manager and the building manager were grooming me for a management position and a switch to a more interesting department.  I had just developed a paperless credit system for the top department (I worked at the national shared accounting center for a huge north American company) but left because I thought my supervisor was a cunt and she denied two days of a five day request for vacation so I could go to NC with my family.  The only things I've done since then are landscaping, built a few custom designed Koi ponds with custom built filters (all my own designs) and some math tutoring.


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Edited by DragonChaser (08/06/13 05:03 AM)

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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: TimmehSydney]
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TimmehSydney said:
Well in that case you should definitely get to know the students on a personal level on the first day, a great way to do this would be to use ice.

You know what to do  :yeahthatsright:



Okay, I lol'd.

But seriously, what do you do if a student makes a false accusation against you?  Like if they stay after a class and try to blackmail you by saying something like, "raise my grade or I'll tell them you offered to raise it in exchange for a blowjibber".

That's another thing that scares the crap out of me.  Some woman accused my aunt of sexually harassing her child (my aunt is a teacher) just because my aunt hugged her during class.

I feel like I'd need to keep a recorder in my pocket at all times in case a student wanted to talk to me in between or after classes, just so I could record everything said.


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My name is Mud

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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: DragonChaser]
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I agree with aiyobro, the notebooks are a great idea.  I find that you can keep students engaged by telling personal stories related to the subject matter.  Anytime your teaching something and it reminds you of something you went through, use it.  Students love that shit.

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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: DragonChaser]
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DragonChaser said:
2Experimental said:
Make something out of your life.



I am quite the beer connoisseur, thank you.

In fact, I taught my dad how to brew beer, since his dream is to open a restaurant/bar after he retires and builds the houses he wants to get built.  I built him a microbrewery in his basement for a father's day gift a few years back (I'd been brewing wine since I was 14 or 15, adapting it to beer wasn't hard... I did use his money to build it though).

I also have a successful black carpenter ant colony.  I'm their deity.  I think that's an accomplishment.

I'm also married to a wonderful woman... her family thinks I'm a bum, and I have to agree, but she loves me.  Before she became a bank manager I taught her how to grow fungus. 

There's more, but I think I have a fair bit accomplished...  In all seriousness, I'm really afraid of failure.  Getting fired doesn't scare me so much, it's if the kids don't do well, that would crush me.  Whenever I had a student that I was tutoring who would improve, then suddenly start doing poorly because they stopped studying, I would obsess over it and blame myself.  I'd be crushed if that happened to an entire class.  Whenever I had a student that I was tutoring who would improve, then suddenly start doing poorly because they stopped studying, I would obsess over it and blame myself.  I'd be crushed if that happened to an entire class.

I quit my cushy corporate job last summer, even though my manager and the building manager were grooming me for a management position and a switch to a more interesting department.  I had just developed a paperless credit system for the top department (I worked at the national shared accounting center for a huge north American company) but left because I thought my supervisor was a cunt and she denied two days of a five day request for vacation so I could go to NC with my family.  The only things I've done since then are landscaping, built a few custom designed Koi ponds with custom built filters (all my own designs) and some math tutoring.




Good story.
BUt..


:feelsbatman:

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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: 2Experimental]
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Alright, alright... now that my confidence is getting up a little by talking about it, I'm going to wait until it's morning time here (I mean proper morning, not this pre-dawn bullshit) and call the lady back and agree for an interview time.

Thanks, you guys did help... and I think talking about my fear of failure helped too.


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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: DragonChaser]
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You are on the path to righteousness....if all else fails, just dump the colony of carpenter ants down your enemies pants.


SLeep well!

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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: DragonChaser]
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DragonChaser said:
Alright, alright... now that my confidence is getting up a little by talking about it, I'm going to wait until it's morning time here (I mean proper morning, not this pre-dawn bullshit) and call the lady back and agree for an interview time.

Thanks, you guys did help... and I think talking about my fear of failure helped too.



You'l never know if you don't try :shrug:


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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: 2Experimental]
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Also I exaggerated on how well the carpenter ant colony is doing... their population collapsed because they weren't getting additional vitamins they needed :feelssadman:.  I'm a bad deity :frown:


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Re: Got an interview to be a math teacher [Re: DragonChaser]
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:llamastare:


Sorry to hear that bro, but I keep a mound of those black cow eating ants in the wild in a pit out by where I dig for clay. They are mean mah fukkers, but if I throw some old meat in there( like a pork chop) it's literally gone in minutes.


Scary, really....

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