Phoenician said:

I'm a vegetarian. For so many reasons but to try and sum it up:

1) There is no good reason to eat meat. Any nutritional value found in meat can be found in copious amounts elsewhere. "It tastes good" is a bs reason. For protein, see: beans, nuts, seeds, dairy products (milk, cheese, yogurt), etc. For b12 see: dairy, eggs, supplements.

2) The environment. Meat production is an incredible waste of resources and it is becoming more drastic with the growing population.

3) Factory farming. Animals are sentient beings. They are raised in confined areas and gorged from cradle to grave. It is a source of a great amount of suffering.

4) Economical. Eating vegetarian is much cheaper if done right.

5) Spiritual reasons. Doing my part to decrease the amount of suffering and live in harmony with the world.

6*) Health. This is debatable but switching to vegetarian forces me to look more carefully at my diet and ultimately eat healthier. I can no longer go to a fast food joint when I'm hungry for convenience. It's amazing how difficult it is to go out to eat and finding a proper meal without animal carcass on the menu.


Oh and if you like veggie burgers learn how to make them yourself. It's pretty easy and costs much less.


Edit: I forgot to mention I don't have a problem with eating meat for survival. It is appropriate in that situation. I speak of vegetarianism in modern society where it has become obsolete. I believe the shift to a vegetarian diet is important to our evolution as a species. We are not in the stone age anymore.

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Pullups mostly work your back, they don't really work your arms a whole lot. Especially if your palms aren't facing you, then they are almost strictly your lats, which is your upper and middle back. Only when your palms are facing you, do they work your biceps too.

You should add weights to decrease your reps. Doing 20 reps is more of an endurance exercise; if you want your muscles to grow, you should add weight to your pullups until you can only do around 5 reps at a time.

Still, pullups aren't for making your arms grow.

If you want to work your arms more while still using the pull-up exercise, do muscle ups. At least that will work your triceps. This is what they look like

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You're basically telling me I should neglect my back even though I'm a gymrat, because I'm a girl. Worst advice ever.

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Scarab74 said:

Since I eat eggs and dairy, I tend toward cottage cheese, eggs and egg whites, and Greek yogurt.  I try to moderate my soy intake, and the Quorn brand of non-meat is made with mycoprotein, and seitan is made from wheat.  I also eat beans with grains.

That said, I'm obviously not lactose- or gluten-intolerant.

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topdog82 said:

What are some good sources of protein that are vegaterian?

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Xingu said:

topdog82 said:

What are some good sources of protein that are vegaterian?

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Legumes, nuts, eggs, tempeh.

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22Karot said:

Xingu said:

topdog82 said:

What are some good sources of protein that are vegaterian?

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Legumes, nuts, eggs, tempeh.

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Quinoa too.
If you aren't vegan, Greek yogurt would be an obvious choice.

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22Karot said:

You just have to get creative.
I've used quinoa in soups, with eggs, in Asian type dishes, pilafs and I'm thinking about trying to make a quiche with it included.

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PDU said:

How is bok choy raw? I was actually thinking of giving it a try earlier today.

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Crystal G said:

PDU said:

How is bok choy raw? I was actually thinking of giving it a try earlier today.

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I like it in shabu shabu and sukiyaki. It's kind of like kale, when consumed raw it can have a bitter aftertaste that is off-putting to some people if you are not used to it. I bet a lot of vegetarians here would like bok choy in sukiyaki with tofu, eggs, udon noodles, shiitake mushrooms, bamboo shoots, and vegetable broth.

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RockyRaccoon said:

I had it with shiitake mushrooms in a basic salad. It was excellent.

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RebelSteve33 said:

I've been vegetarian for over 12 years now with a couple, year-long forays into veganism.  I wish I could remain vegan, but it's hard.  My reasons are:  animal ethics (factory farms are unbelievably cruel and inhumane), health, environmental, and humanitarian. 

I am totally okay with eating wild-caught fish and game, but that's the only exception I make.  If people could stop eating meat we could use all that food we grow to feed the animals to just feed people, and that would put an end to world hunger.  Plus we'd reduce the epidemics of heart disease, cancer, and obesity. 

Fact.

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Besides the torture these creatures have to go through so we can have these products we so much "need". Is not even natural, our demand for food is so high that not even nature can keep up with it. Cycle of life is too slow for us so I don't even know what they are eating at this point. Last time I checked there were cloning chickens with no feathers, eyes, nor beak for that matter. I have to be honest I have not been vegan my whole life, in fact very far from it. When people ask me why and all that shit they love to question, I respond: Once you know, you gotta be too shitty inside to look the other way and pretend that didn't happen.

Bashing on vegetarians is not my job, but I often ask my self what's the line between mild torture and severe torture. Unless raping cows, and keeping them pregnant so you can have cheese with your fries is totally cool in your book.