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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: Uzziel]
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thats not true for everyone my friend. what works for you maybe christianity for someone else maybe islam, for yet another maybe fapping for an hour does the trick. im not trying to make fun of or question your beliefs but there are many paths towards enlighenment.  Weed is amazing and one of the things which works for me.


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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: InfiniteToker]
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jesus watches everythang, even when i fap for 7 hours in your house while yours at work tho its my allah given 2nd amentment right to bust a cap in yo ass.


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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: Synthe]
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LOL,


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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: InfiniteToker]
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  • my name is fuck





  • i am hear to buck






  • the system with my giant bong dong


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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
It's funny how easily people accept the label others place on them without much thought as to the validity of it's implications.

I do tons of illegal drugs, but I am not a criminal. It's criminal that in a "free country" I can be prosecuted for doing what I want to my own body in my own home responsibly.

:justno:

ro-deez said:
A lot of users on this use more than just weed



So what? Do you consider it criminal to use mushrooms just because it's labeled that way by a bunch of backwards politicians? Or is LSD a crime because it has to be synthesized and it's not "natural"?

If it doesn't harm anyone else, it shouldn't actually be a crime in a free country. If you accept an illogical label that someone else creates despite realizing how illogical it is, you're worse than they are. The only reason using these substances is still a crime is because too many people just blindly accept what they are told about these substances. :nonono:


meams said:
Yeah.  Back when i smoked, whenever i'd take a hit, i would find myself perplexed that i can have my entire life ruined, as far as my professional career goes, just for sitting in my own house, and relaxing with an herb.



This messes with my head every time I'm on drugs. On my last acid trip I spent a really long time contemplating how annoying it is that camping out in the woods and enjoying nature in my own way is actually highly illegal and could ruin my chances of becoming a doctor.  :wtf:



Consciousness expansion should be something everyone should look into, even if it is only temporary (can make people get a new fresh outlook on life), but personally I don't think it is temporary if you integrate the experiences
Society should embrace it

Mushrooms, LSD, Salvia, DMT, Mescaline, LSA, Ayahuasca,... all are psychedelics, they all do the same thing (dissolve ego, strip away the outer layer of our psyche, make us appreciate the small things we had forgotten to appreciate in life)

They hold great promise for psychiatry with the potential to cure after a number of uses, which most pills today don't do, you usually have to take pills for life if you have a condition (so the pharmacy can make money)

Drugs affect people differently, but most people know when to smoke weed and when not to smoke it i.e., and when to trip and when not to trip
(when you're depressed you shouldn't do drugs, and everyday use is usually a problem too)

Tolerance, no persecution
especially for natural substances used for own personal use (weed,psychedelics etc)

Logic dictates it must be so, it is only a matter of time

Let people do what they want as long as they don't hurt others, then they are probably more willing to pay their taxes

It's funny, there is absolutely no tolerance left in our society today, wonder where it went

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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: lessismore]
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Persecute violence, not drugs

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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 1
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JoieDeVivre said:
It's criminal that in a "free country" I can be prosecuted for doing what I want to my own body in my own home responsibly.





I feel the same way but unfortunately the law sees things differently which
is why I tell people to knock it off with the armchair activism and to take a
proactive role, dont donate your money to NORML, most of it goes to fund
nonsense such as lawyers, websites, celeb endorsements, executive and
marketer pay... they're the PETA of potheads

you want to make a difference, talk to people, start with people around you,
point out that potheads and cocaine users have become president, that acid
users are among the top scientists and that the drug actually helped them to
make the break throughs that have been of such a great benefit to mankind

the #1 way you can make a difference, get your friends together, grab your
cameras, call the media tell them to be at all these political rallies and
then, while having your shit together, question these politicians on the
legalization issues, debate the bastards in front of the media, make them
look like the blundering fools that they are and post that shit everywhere
on the internet that you can, stop reelecting these tards on the 'hope'
that they're going to 'change' something in their second term if they didnt
fight for you in their first and stop listening to the media about the
candidates, research the fuckers and vote according to their actual stance
or past votes, not by what you're told. the time to pay attention to
politics is between the elections, not just before them




"I want you to argue with them, get in their faces" -Barack H. Obama 9/17/2008

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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: lessismore]
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Politics is like a versioned system

Sometimes you commit too much(laws) in good faith and gotta revert the commits

I would like them to do a checkout of the 1960's laws and drug policies :-)

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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: DeadHearts]
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I do not consider myself a criminal :laugh:!

But then again:
Smoking pot and eating shrooms and truffles is kinda legal over here ^^ :laugh:

Even if I do stuff that's not legal (like Keta, xtc or mdma) I do not consider myself a criminal, tbh.
I know the law considers it illegal and thus I am a criminal in the eyes of the law.
But I do not feel the same way. Last time I was high on Ketamine and MDMA I had quite the interesting chat with an officer that was there to roll up the illegal rave we where attending. He must've known I wasn't sober (huge pupils, talking like a waterfall etc). Yet we ended up talking for like 20 minutes about drugs and raves, lol XD :P


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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
It's funny how easily people accept the label others place on them without much thought as to the validity of it's implications.

I do tons of illegal drugs, but I am not a criminal. It's criminal that in a "free country" I can be prosecuted for doing what I want to my own body in my own home responsibly.

:justno:

ro-deez said:
A lot of users on this use more than just weed



So what? Do you consider it criminal to use mushrooms just because it's labeled that way by a bunch of backwards politicians? Or is LSD a crime because it has to be synthesized and it's not "natural"?

If it doesn't harm anyone else, it shouldn't actually be a crime in a free country. If you accept an illogical label that someone else creates despite realizing how illogical it is, you're worse than they are. The only reason using these substances is still a crime is because too many people just blindly accept what they are told about these substances. :nonono:


meams said:
Yeah.  Back when i smoked, whenever i'd take a hit, i would find myself perplexed that i can have my entire life ruined, as far as my professional career goes, just for sitting in my own house, and relaxing with an herb.



This messes with my head every time I'm on drugs. On my last acid trip I spent a really long time contemplating how annoying it is that camping out in the woods and enjoying nature in my own way is actually highly illegal and could ruin my chances of becoming a doctor.  :wtf:



I don't consider myself a criminal since I'm a sovereign being


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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: ro-deez]
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I was just saying we use other shit besides weed which the social stigma is that we're criminals


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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: ro-deez]
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Smoking weed isn't what makes me a criminal.


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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: lessismore]
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mio said:
Politics is like a versioned system

Sometimes you commit too much(laws) in good faith and gotta revert the commits

I would like them to do a checkout of the 1960's laws and drug policies :-)



ROFL! Merge-day hell!

I think the solution involves people refusing to stigmatise drug taking. I see all the time how people internalise oppression.

Bad laws will end when it becomes blindingly obvious that they are unenforceable, and any politician who tries to defend them should be called out for peddling such nonsense.

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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: Legend]
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Legend said:
Smoking weed isn't what makes me a criminal.




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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: Mister.S]
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Mister.S said:
I do not consider myself a criminal :laugh:!

But then again:
Smoking pot and eating shrooms and truffles is kinda legal over here ^^ :laugh:

Even if I do stuff that's not legal (like Keta, xtc or mdma) I do not consider myself a criminal, tbh.
I know the law considers it illegal and thus I am a criminal in the eyes of the law.
But I do not feel the same way. Last time I was high on Ketamine and MDMA I had quite the interesting chat with an officer that was there to roll up the illegal rave we where attending. He must've known I wasn't sober (huge pupils, talking like a waterfall etc). Yet we ended up talking for like 20 minutes about drugs and raves, lol XD :P






Damn you dutch people, with you're reasonable laws and beautiful architecture, and tall people, and affinity for the color orange :crazy2:


I'm jealous, I wish I had dual citizenship...or just citizenship to Holland, that'd be cool too.


That aside..I don't consider myself a criminal. Especially when you look at the bigger picture and kind of realize that prohibition of drugs, especially weed, seems to be more about $$$, the amount of money the government and the privatized prison industry makes off of non-violent drug offenders is obscenely huge...and also the fact that big pharma is essentially shitting themselves over potentially losing out on so much money to a plant that can be grown and produced for dirt cheap, and often in the home of the consumer, compared to the pharmaceutical alternative(i.e. opiates).

Nah...I don't really consider myself the criminal here.

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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: pirate-blues]
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pirate-blues said:
the privatized prison industry



I could never understand how any country could allow this to happen. Just seems so insane to me. I'm all for the free market in certain commodities, but crime? Damn.

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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: DeadHearts]
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I don't consider myself a criminal.

But then again I dont smoke pot :cookiemonster:


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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: Asante]
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Maybe I'm paranoid, but is this because of my post in the Trayvon Martin thread?

If so, this is a website that focuses on drug cultivation. If you grow/eat/smoke/snort/shoot drugs in a place where it is illegal, then you are a criminal.

Also, there's a whole section of this forum dedicated to junkies. Junkies generally do junky shit.

Just sayin'.

Oh, and while I'm on the subject, what's wrong with being a criminal? I mean, really?


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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
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I am one badass fucking criminal. The kind we all think is cool in the movies.

I smoke weed


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Re: I cannot believe users on this site consider themselves criminals [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
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Crime: "An action or omission that constitutes an offense that may be prosecuted by the state and is punishable by law."

So, yes, I consider myself a criminal to the extent that I break the law.

Yet I don't consider my drug use to be morally wrong.

Legality != morality.

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