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Offlinejaredman
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Need ID, (pics included)
    #1840898 - 08/22/03 03:46 PM (14 years, 2 hours ago)


a. Habitat: Growing in Northwest Oregon, on a brand new lawn.
b. Characteristics of the gills: Light Brown, not attached.
c. Cap is 2.5 cm wide.
d. Characteristics of the stem: Stem is white, hollow, and very thin, not very strong either.
e. Characteristics of the cap: Cone shape, white with a tan spot in the center.
no spore print. I think these mushrooms might be
conocybe lactea.

a. Habitat: Found in North West Oregon, in a brand new, well manured lawn.
b. Characteristics of the gills:Gills are attached, dark brown to black, They hang down below the cap.
c. cap is 4 cm wide.
d. Characteristics of the stem: stem is thin, brown, and hollow.
e. Characteristics of the cap: Caps are slightly wavy, they are light brown in the middle, and have a dark brown ring a long the edge. Caps are also slightly wavy.
f. Spore print color: Black

a. Habitat: Found in North West Oregon, in a brand new, well manured lawn.
b. Characteristics of the gills:Gills are attached, and brown
c. the largest cap is 2.5 cm, and the smallest is 1 cm.
d. Characteristics of the stem: stem is thin, and its a shiny bronze like color.
e. Characteristics of the cap:caps are cone shaped, they start light brown in the middle, than move to a dark tan color, and have a light brown ring on the edge.
f. Spore print color: Black

These were all found on various brand new lawns through out my neighborhood.The second and third pictures deffinattly seem to be a panaeolus of some sort. SOrry if the pictures arnt too great, i donnt have a very good camera.
Thanks, Jared.


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Re: Need ID, (pics included) [Re: jaredman]
    #1841032 - 08/22/03 04:23 PM (14 years, 2 hours ago)

last 2 look like pans, not really sure what kind though, shrug, wait for more responses


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Re: Need ID, (pics included) [Re: ]
    #1841229 - 08/22/03 05:38 PM (14 years, 1 hour ago)

I agree with you on the first one... As for the second and third they seem to be a panaeolous species. I don't know exactly... are you sure the spore print isn't more on the dark brown side???? The gills and stem lead me to beleive panaolina foencii.. But the spore print would be brown... not black...??????



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Re: Need ID, (pics included) [Re: nofind_um]
    #1841496 - 08/22/03 07:05 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

the first one i agree with you just from the picture. are they very fragile?

the second and third pictures are very undetailed. the second may be a panaeolus or another genus such as Marasmius or blabla, but the third looks like Panaeolus to me, possibly Panaeolina foenisecii or Panaeolus subbalteatus. take an overnight sporeprint and try to distinguish between black and dark brown.


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Re: Need ID, (pics included) [Re: MagmaManiac]
    #1843152 - 08/23/03 01:10 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Im not very familiar with Liberty Caps because I live in W.Kentucky,but could those Mushrooms in your top pic. be Liberty Caps?They look like it to me,Peace
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Re: Need ID, (pics included) [Re: jaredman]
    #1843268 - 08/23/03 02:01 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

The first specimens are correctly ID'ed.

The 2nd and 3rd species are obviously a Panaeolus.

I wouldn't be suprised if they were both Paneolus foenisecii. I have found some very different looking foenisecii throughout the year, and in different lawns. They do display some different characteristics.

However, since the 2nd one seems to be too big for a foenisecii, there could be a chance of it being a subbalteatus. What I would do is go back to where you found them, and try bruising the bright white mycelium which attaches to the base of the stem. It should bruise blue.

Here is a picture of a foenisecii I found a little while back.


Here are some pictures of some dried up subbalteatus I found last winter growing from some manure. I post this picture because they look similar to the ones in your photo above.


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Re: Need ID, (pics included) [Re: angryshroom]
    #1843788 - 08/23/03 06:33 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I took a verry very long spore print, and they still came out very black. I also was able to find a bit of mycelium on the base of a stem when i whent back, and it did notice some blue color when i bruised it. So they do very much seem to be subbs, but just to be safe i might still hold off on eating them. Thanks a lot for the help guys, ill deffinatly share some more finds soon.


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Re: Need ID, (pics included) [Re: jaredman]
    #1843958 - 08/23/03 08:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

yea theyre good and may be subbs, where do you live?


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Re: Need ID, (pics included) [Re: MagmaManiac]
    #1844164 - 08/23/03 10:30 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i live in oregon, 30 miles west of portland.


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Re: Need ID, (pics included) [Re: jaredman]
    #1845197 - 08/24/03 01:03 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

"So they do very much seem to be subbs, but just to be safe i might still hold off on eating them."

If you're sure they're either Pan subbs or Pan foes, neither species is harmful. So if you were to eat them, and they turn out to be Pan foe, the only thing you have to worry about is not tripping.


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Re: Need ID, (pics included) [Re: Aaladorn]
    #1845265 - 08/24/03 01:42 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Aaladorn said:
"So they do very much seem to be subbs, but just to be safe i might still hold off on eating them."

If you're sure they're either Pan subbs or Pan foes, neither species is harmful. So if you were to eat them, and they turn out to be Pan foe, the only thing you have to worry about is not tripping.




And diarrhea. Pans tend to cause stomach upset in a lot of people.


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