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OfflineMalachi
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postmodernists vs deconstructionists - same difference?
    #1831817 - 08/20/03 01:30 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

what's the difference?


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Re: postmodernists vs deconstructionists - same difference? [Re: Malachi]
    #1831982 - 08/20/03 02:23 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

madonna


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As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know.

-Donald Rumsfeld 2/2/02 Pentagon


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Re: postmodernists vs deconstructionists - same difference? [Re: Xochitl]
    #1832178 - 08/20/03 03:43 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

what an absolutely fascinating discussion... mmmm hmmmm


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Re: postmodernists vs deconstructionists - same difference? [Re: Dogomush]
    #1832241 - 08/20/03 04:27 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

fuck you very much, if you don't have anything to contribute just don't post in this thread.

heaven forbid we talk about something that's actually relevant...


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Re: postmodernists vs deconstructionists - same difference? [Re: Malachi]
    #1832267 - 08/20/03 04:43 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Postmodernism is just a new name for modernism. It's kind of like when people add "ultra" or "hyper" to some word to make it sound new, only in this case they added "post".

Deconstructionism was originally just a fancy name for the simple fact that the meaning of a text depends on the meaning of other things. But in later years it has turned into a badge label for academics who can't handle logic and who don't want to learn anything, but who still want to sound important and publish papers.

Sometimes postmodernism and deconstructionism are bunched together, because those badge-label deconstructionists love to think of themselves as "postmodern" for some reason. However, they will regret this association later when postmodernism is made obsolete by ultrapostmodernism and postultrapostmodernism.


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Re: postmodernists vs deconstructionists - same difference? [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1832312 - 08/20/03 05:09 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, that's what everyone says, but I can't believe that derrida cared about sounding fancy. there has to be a core of legitimate work/though going on amongst the filler.


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Re: postmodernists vs deconstructionists - same difference? [Re: Malachi]
    #1832317 - 08/20/03 05:12 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

hey rhizoid, I'd appreciate it if you'd check out my ethics thread. :smile:


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Re: postmodernists vs deconstructionists - same difference? [Re: Malachi]
    #1832347 - 08/20/03 05:37 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't read any of Derrida's own stuff, but I don't doubt that his original work was legitimate. It was probably a necessary reaction to an older tradition where literary critics speculated wildly about the true underlying meaning of an author's work, based on vague assumptions made about the author's life history and state of mind, etc.


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