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I Am That: Nisargadatta Maharaj
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Has anyone read or heard any information from Nisargadatta?

It may be my next exploration. His messages have popped up a few times recently, you could say.

http://www.amazon.com/I-Am-That-Nisargadatta-Maharaj/dp/0893860468/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361583207&sr=8-1&keywords=Nisargadatta

"This collection of the timeless teachings of one of the greatest sages of India, Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, is a testament to the uniqueness of the seer's life and work and is regarded by many as a modern spiritual classic. I Am That (first published in 1973) continues to draw new audiences and to enlighten seekers anxious for self-realization. Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj was a teacher who did not propound any ideology or religion, but gently unwrapped the mystery of the self. His message was simple, direct, and sublime. I Am That preserves his dialogs with the followers who came from around the world seeking guidance in destroying false identities. The sage's sole concern was with the human suffering and the ending of suffering. It was his mission to guide the individual to an understanding of his true nature and the timelessness of being. He taught that the mind must recognize and penetrate its own state of being--not "being this or that, here or there, then or now," but just timeless being.

A simple man, Maharaj was a householder and petty storekeeper in Bombay where he lived and died in 1981 at the age of 84. He had not been educated formally but came to be respected and loved for his insights into the crux of human pain and for the extraordinary lucidity of his direct disclosure. Hundreds of diverse seekers traveled the globe and sought him out in his unpretentious home in Bombay (now Mumbai) to hear him. To all of them, he gave hope that "beyond the real experience is not the mind, but the self, the light in which everything appears ... the awareness in which everything happens." In the humble abode of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, but for the electric lights and the noises of the street traffic, one would not know in which period of human history one dwells. There is an atmosphere of timelessness about his tiny room; the subjects discussed are timeless -- valid for all times; the way they are expounded and examined is also timeless; the centuries, millennia and yugas fall off and one deals with matters immensely ancient and eternally new. The discussions held and teachings given would have been the same ten thousand years ago and will be the same ten thousand years hence. There will always be conscious beings wondering about the fact of their being conscious and enquiring into its cause and aim. Whence am I? Who am I? Whither am I? Such questions have no beginning and no end. And it is crucial to know the answers, for without a full understanding of oneself, both in time and in timelessness, life is but a dream, imposed on us by powers we do not know, for purposes we cannot grasp. I Am That is a legacy from a unique teacher who helps the reader to a clearer understanding of himself as he comes to Maharaj with the age-old question, "Who am I?" Seekers were never turned away from the humble abode of Maharaj during his life and can still find their answers to this timeless question in the pages of this book today."


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Re: I Am That: Nisargadatta Maharaj [Re: Keru]
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Yes, I have heard of this Maharaj. He gave simple answers to life's most profound questions. I have not read the book, but it seems interesting. The things that I have read about him seem to be in line with what I hold to be spiritual truth. I think it would definitely be worth looking into. There is a lot of knowledge here that can easily set one free, you must simply be ready and willing to learn. Eagerness and willingness to learn from Maharaj will bring freedom, but an attitude opposite of that will only tighten the ties that bind. I just hope you go into this with the right mentality because a lot of people don't and they end up becoming extremely angry and cynical when all is said and done. Seek, not only with an open mind, but an open heart as well. This is the only way that higher understanding can be achieved.


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Re: I Am That: Nisargadatta Maharaj [Re: ConfettiHead]
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It's good read, I recommend reading it.

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Re: I Am That: Nisargadatta Maharaj [Re: Keru]
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It's an excellent book, although this statement about it is incorrect

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I Am That is a legacy from a unique teacher who helps the reader to a clearer understanding of himself as he comes to Maharaj with the age-old question, "Who am I?" Seekers were never turned away from the humble abode of Maharaj during his life and can still find their answers to this timeless question in the pages of this book today



You can't find the answer to the question 'Who am i?' in any book or in anywhere but yourself, of course if you are fully aware that everything is yourself then you can find it in a book, but if you were fully aware everything was yourself you would not be asking the question

The question is conceptual, but the answer is not conceptual, it can not be written down, or expressed, for it is Infinite

Knowing it, realizing it, understanding it, is only Being it


The seeker is he who is in search of himself.
Give up all questions except one: ‘Who am I?’
After all, the only fact you are sure of is that you are.
The ‘I am’ is certain. The ‘I am this’ is not.
Struggle to find out what you are in reality.

To know what you are,
you must first investigate and know what you are not.
Discover all that ultimately, you are not
- body, feelings thoughts, time, space, this or that,
nothing, concrete or abstract, which you perceive can be you.
The very act of perceiving shows that you are not what you perceive.

The clearer you understand on the level of mind
you can be described in negative terms only,
the quicker will you come to the end of your search
and realise that you are the limitless being.


- Nissy


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Edited by Chronic7 (02/23/13 03:16 AM)

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Re: I Am That: Nisargadatta Maharaj [Re: Chronic7]
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The Chronic said:You can't find the answer to the question 'Who am i?' in any book or in anywhere but yourself, of course if you are fully aware that everything is yourself then you can find it in a book, but if you were fully aware everything was yourself you would not be asking the question

The question is conceptual, but the answer is not conceptual, it can not be written down, or expressed, for it is Infinite

Knowing it, realizing it, understanding it, is only Being it



Very excellent, that.

The "answer" to the question is not speak-able.  No one can "answer" the question for you.

It is purely a "felt" experience, and (here's the rub), you will never be able to give words to it, even after you have "felt" it.

This is the essential sorrow of the human experience.

You will never be able to give words to it.

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Re: I Am That: Nisargadatta Maharaj [Re: all this beauty]
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If its a sorrow to not be able to put it in words it's an incredibly beautiful blissful ecstatic sorrow!

I feel it's brilliant our minds can not capture it, usually our minds give us a sense of who we are but when our mind is silenced at its inability to definitively capture what we are, then the infinite (the indefinable) is aware of itself (self-realization) so its grace that it can't be put into words, it's grace to be silenced

Imagine if we could express it in words, we would never shutup! Which would be a state of mental disturbance, not of peace
The fact we can't put our Being into words only leaves room for actually Being it
Its like if you can't tangibly hold onto something, you can only let go of it, and we can't tangibly hold to any image of 'ourself' so can only let go into the fullness of whatever we are

We can't put our finger on what Life really is, because we are Life itself

The essential sorrow of the human experience i find is that so many miss this, when its what they ARE!
How our Love can be blindly narrowed down as if we are wearing blinkers, when our Love can be all encompassing


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Edited by Chronic7 (02/24/13 03:01 AM)

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Re: I Am That: Nisargadatta Maharaj [Re: Chronic7]
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The Chronic said:The essential sorrow of the human experience i find is that so many miss this, when its what they ARE!
How our Love can be blindly narrowed down as if we are wearing blinkers, when our Love can be all encompassing



Lots and lots of folks sense the unity/oneness.  They may not give voice to it as we do, here in this thread, but they sense it nevertheless.

There are many people of religious faith who recognize/feel the unity.  They often employ unique vocabularies, but if you look and listen deeply you'll see they're pointing to the same thing we're pointing to.  In another way, that's all.

Of course, there are also lots and lots of religious people who have zero inkling of what the fu*k we're talking about in this thread.

Now that's truly sorrowful, in my opinion.

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Re: I Am That: Nisargadatta Maharaj [Re: all this beauty]
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all this beauty said:
There are many people of religious faith who recognize/feel the unity.  They often employ unique vocabularies, but if you look and listen deeply you'll see they're pointing to the same thing we're pointing to.  In another way, that's all.

Of course, there are also lots and lots of religious people who have zero inkling of what the fu*k we're talking about in this thread.

Now that's truly sorrowful, in my opinion.



Yes! Someone who SEES, finally! Haha! I have tried to bring this point up in PS&P forums, but I have encountered heavy resistance. I think it's because they are misunderstanding me. I have been trying to say the same thing that you have said. Which is that, some religious people recognize the unity and connectedness between us all, but they use their religious vocabulary to express it. In reality, like we've stated here, there is no vocabulary to express "The All". You just know it and feel it and sense it. You recognize it in your everyday life all around you, but it cannot be expressed through the medium of words. It is a language, yes, but it is a different kind of language.

Sadly, there are also a lot of religious folk who have no fucking clue in the world about what we speak of. Same goes for some atheists (but don't say that in PS&P forums or else you'll get a handful of posters angrily lashing out at you for backing up religion! :rolleyes:).


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Re: I Am That: Nisargadatta Maharaj [Re: ConfettiHead]
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ConfettiHead said:I have tried to bring this point up in PS&P forums, but I have encountered heavy resistance. I think it's because they are misunderstanding me.



Beware, ConfettiHead, of any forum where the participants identify with a certain "-ism."  Buddhism, Daoism, it doesn't matter.  People on those boards have a tendency to get "locked in" to the vocabulary and vision of their particular "-ism."  So, you encounter Internet Daoists, for example, who look down their noses at Buddhists, and vice versa.

My vocabulary and my vision (and I suspect yours, too) aren't confined to any particular "-ism."  All spiritual paths contain folks who are able to "grok" what the followers of other paths are saying -- even when the words and pictures are very different.

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Re: I Am That: Nisargadatta Maharaj [Re: all this beauty]
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The only existence is merely being itself. How others don't feel it is confusing for me, but I've done a lot of psilocybin with religious motifs in mind, so maybe this triggered my entry into this feeling of divine love, sacredness and awesomeness. But if you cannot see that everything is You, there is a lot on your mind or you are driven by fear, because that is the only thing you can know for sure - You. The interesting thing is, there is the feeling there is more to know, but there isn't. It is only ignorance of yourself that makes anything else seem manifest.


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My solitude...
My shield...
My armour...

TESTED
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FULL
FORCE

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