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Invisibleiglou
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whatever happened to Mind Books?
    #1784035 - 08/06/03 04:21 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Whatever happened to that great online/catalog bookseller Mind Books @ http://www.promind.com ? They used to carry every possible title. Are they out of business or is just the site down?

Grrr.

anyone know a substitute for lots and lots of psychedelic books?

Thanks!


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Re: whatever happened to Mind Books? [Re: iglou]
    #1784584 - 08/06/03 12:05 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

The guy who ran it, i forget his name, sadly passed away.
he was a starting figure of microsoft and contributed greatly to the psychedelic scene.
i'm sure his name was Bob ********

amazon.com / .co.uk has many psychedelic books.
peace


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The poison is the dose - Paracelsus
Let your food be medicine and your medicine be food - Hippocrates


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Invisibleiglou
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Re: whatever happened to Mind Books? [Re: mikey_]
    #1784807 - 08/06/03 01:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, Bob Wallace. That's really unfortunate to news - rest in peace.

amazon has a great selection, true - but guess I'm looking for a business that is more mom & pop and who's down with the psychedelic community (ala mindbooks).

Thanks for the help though (polygon window is a classic btw)


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Re: whatever happened to Mind Books? [Re: iglou]
    #1787410 - 08/07/03 05:42 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yeah i'd rather there was a nicer presence we could buy from. one option would be to use erowid or whoever has a referrer link to amazon, that way, a small percentage goes to them. better than nothing.

yep, polygon window is amazing. sounds as good today as it must have back then.
peace

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September 26, 2002
Bob Wallace, Software Pioneer, Dies at 53
By JOHN MARKOFF

Bob Wallace, a pioneering programmer of the personal computer
era who helped invent "shareware" software marketing , died on
Friday at his home in San Rafael, Calif. He was 53.

The cause was not immediately known and the results of an
autopsy are not yet available, said his wife, Megan
Dana-Wallace.

When Mr. Wallace joined the Microsoft Corporation in 1978, he
became its ninth employee. At the time, the company was known as
Micro Soft and was based in Albuquerque. He developed an early
version of the Pascal programming language. He left the company
in 1983 to found Quicksoft, a software company that sold a word
processor called PC-Write using a marketing plan that Mr.
Wallace initially called commission shareware.

The term shareware had already been coined by Jay Lucas, writing
in the personal computer newspaper InfoWorld to describe the
software that was being distributed free or for a nominal
copying charge.

At the time, the personal computer business was in the throes of
a transition from a passionate hobby to an industry that would
eventually create several of the world's largest fortunes. Mr.
Wallace's personal style best represented the original hacker
spirit, which was emblematic of a group of programmers and
hardware designers who thought information should be shared
freely.

He copyrighted his PC-Write program and sold the diskette for
$10, at the same time giving users permission to share the
program. Customers who found value in the software were able to
register the program for $75 and obtain a printed copy of the
manual.

Initially, he was uncertain about whether his strategy would
work.

"If I make enough money to live on, I will continue the
experiment," he said in an interview in September 1983, when he
introduced the program. "If not, I will approach software
publishers to see if they are interested in marketing a PC-Write
II version of the program for me commercially."

Within several years, Quicksoft had 32 employees and annual
revenue of more than $2 million.

Mr. Wallace was also the first Microsoft employee to leave the
company with stock. At one point, his original 400 shares were
worth as much as $15 million, his wife said.

But Mr. Wallace, who was influenced by the counterculture of the
1960's and early 70's, was never comfortable with the industry
he helped create. He would later say in an interview, "My
philosophy is that I want to make a living, not a killing."

As a student at Brown University in the 1960's, he worked with a
group of researchers led by Andries van Dam and Ted Nelson on a
pioneering information age tool known as the file retrieval and
editing system, or Fress. Although it was designed on a
mainframe I.B.M. 360 computer, it would shape personal computing
in the next three decades.

"He was one of the key designers of Fress," said Dr. Van Dam,
who is now vice president for research at Brown. "We would have
these long arguments about what was good for the user. He had
this very gentle flower child demeanor and philosophy."

Many ideas that would become commonplace in personal computing
and that would later lead to the development of the World Wide
Web were invented by the Fress group at Brown and, separately,
by researchers led by Douglas Engelbart at Stanford Research
Institute, now SRI International, in Menlo Park, Calif.

The Fress group designed early text editing and word processing
systems. But its members also had a deeper vision of linked
documents that would permit a computer user to move through a
new kind of information space, dubbed hypertext by Mr. Nelson.

Both Bill Gates and Paul G. Allen, who founded Microsoft,
remembered Mr. Wallace fondly.

"I remember Bob as a gentle soul who was soft-spoken, but
creative, persistent and meticulous in his programming and
thinking," Mr. Allen said.

Before joining Microsoft, Mr. Wallace worked at the Retail
Computer Store in Seattle, where he learned about the tiny
software company after Mr. Gates put up a sign advertising for
programmers.

His first project at Microsoft was to connect a computer to an
I.B.M. Selectric typewriter so the company could print its
software manuals.

Mr. Wallace was involved in some legendary high jinks with Mr.
Gates in the late 1970's, including their breaking into a
construction site and driving bulldozers, at one point almost
running over Mr. Gates's Porsche.

Mr. Wallace had a long interest in psychedelic drugs, which he
thought were misunderstood in the United States. In 1996, he
started Mind Books, a source for books about psychedelics. In
1998, he founded the Promind Foundation to support scientific
research and public education about psychedelics.

In addition to his wife, who lives in Sebastopol, Calif., he is
survived by his mother, Luna, of Tucson; a brother, Douglas, of
Seattle; and a sister, Wendy, of Tucson.


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The poison is the dose - Paracelsus
Let your food be medicine and your medicine be food - Hippocrates


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Re: whatever happened to Mind Books? [Re: mikey_]
    #1787641 - 08/07/03 09:30 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Both Bill Gates and Paul G. Allen, who founded Microsoft, remembered Mr. Wallace fondly. "I remember Bob as a gentle soul who was soft-spoken, but creative, persistent and meticulous in his programming and thinking," Mr. Allen said.

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Mr. Wallace had a long interest in psychedelic drugs, which he thought were misunderstood in the United States. In 1996, he started Mind Books, a source for books about psychedelics. In 1998, he founded the Promind Foundation to support scientific research and public education about psychedelics.

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Here's a quote from http://www.erowid.org/general/about/about_funding.shtml fyi:

Where does Erowid's funding come from?

In 2002, about 45% of our funding came through a grant from the Promind Foundation.  The Promind foundation has been a generous supporter of Erowid for more than five years, but due to the death of it's founder, we will not be receiving any further funding from this source.  Another 25% of our funding came from individual contributions over $1,000.  The final 30% is made up of smaller donations and membership dues.

nice thread iglou  :thumbup:  :smile:   


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Re: whatever happened to Mind Books? [Re: iglou]
    #2441210 - 03/16/04 11:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Bob's passing was so very sad. I actually got an email from him the night he passed away telling me how great of a time he had at Burning Man.

I only spoke with him once on the phone but he and I kept in communication over a years time and he was really and truly a great man who did so much to further science of drugs and to support the greatest resource of drug knowledge at Erowid.

After he passed away myself and the Lyceaum owner were talking about how someone should continue the good work of the Promind foundation to continue that great legacy. We even toyed with the idea of trying to get that done, but sadly I think Promind just simply could not exist without Bob's tireless passion and support.

Rest in Peace friend, your work will never be forgotten.  :sad:


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