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Offlinemonoamine
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your opinion on a few books
    #1146364 - 12/16/02 06:11 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Wow,this forum is really dead.

I just ordered The Politics of Ecstasy and High Priest by Tim Leary, and Ketamine:Dreams and Realities by Karl Jansen. Has anybody here read any of these books? I would like to hear your opinions. I'm still not quite sure about the subject matter of the first two (obviously something about psychedelics),but I've always wanted to read some Leary.


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Re: your opinion on a few books [Re: monoamine]
    #1146470 - 12/16/02 06:34 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: your opinion on a few books [Re: ]
    #1146490 - 12/16/02 06:42 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Good idea.I've never actually read any Ayn Rand,but now's a good time to start.


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Re: your opinion on a few books [Re: monoamine]
    #1146823 - 12/16/02 08:07 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: your opinion on a few books [Re: ]
    #1146922 - 12/16/02 08:35 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Soon we will be doing a reading of Atlas Shrugged. If you have a copy you are invited to join!

Ye gods, man! Atlas Shrugged, of all god-forsaken things that fill this earth! To each his own, I guess. Anyway, I read The Politics of Ecstasy three years ago, so I don't remember too much of it. I remember I liked it though, I liked it a whole bunch. I was also smoking weed like it was going out of style, so more than the fuzziest recollections of that book aren't a possibility. He's a very convincing writer, and he makes use of wonderful metaphors about how we all live in a fake TV set reality controlled by Ceasar and whatnot. Very interesting stuff. I think it's the Politics of Ecstasy that has a little appendix in the back about how to start your own religion so you can use LSD as a sacrament. I'm sure that's pretty outdated by now.

Politics of Ecstasy came out in 1968. Is it an homage to the 1967 Politics of Experience by R. D. Laing, I wonder? Leary and Laing hung out for a few weeks at Haight-Ashbury in like 1965, but Laing thougth Leary was an idiot and went back to England pretty quickly. I wonder if Leary meant to have a similar title or not.
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Atlas Shrugged! We can all hit ourselves in the back of the head with a loose plank of wood and discuss, too, but doesn't mean we should. Ahh, but I kid.


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    #1147008 - 12/16/02 08:56 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: your opinion on a few books [Re: ]
    #1147347 - 12/17/02 01:17 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

perhaps we can locate a few bootleg copies of _telemachus sneezed_ from samizdat publishing ?


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Re: your opinion on a few books [Re: monoamine]
    #1171056 - 12/26/02 09:08 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The Politics of Ecstasy was the first book I ever read concerning the psychedelic experience. While that was over 8 years ago, I can still recall the impact it had on my thinking. Both an entertaining history of Leary and Co's use of LSD and other mind expanding drugs (somewhat akin to the Electric Koolaid Acid Test), and how the public's perception of these drugs changed over time; as well as a vital treatise on the freedom (and power) of the human intellect and imagination--this was my favorite of all of his writings. I'm not sure I would have the same reaction today, but your post has encouraged me to take a jaunt down to the library to refresh my memory.

While in many ways I would prefer to see a discussion of Leary's work, over the turgid, single-minded prose of Ayn Rand--I imagine the latter will inspire a much more spirited discussion, as people are less likely to be in 100% accordance with the arguments she presents in her books.


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