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Hi guys, please help me ID these specimens - possibly two species. Found in Sydney, Australia
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Habitat:
These were found growing from wood chips in a garden bed in a suburban park about 7km from Sydney CBD, NSW, Australia. There were roughly 100 to 200 caps growing in close proximity to each other (as can be seen on the photos) within a space of about 1.5 m^2.

Gills:
On some specimens they are very white, or very lightly coloured, perhaps a beige; although it seems that on others they are a light brown or ginger colour, i guess they're older specimens and the spores have had time to accumulate. But then I am not sure, there may be two species here as some have a bell-shaped cap, while others are more conical and some even flat and/or somewhat wavy.

Stem:
The stems are white before being disturbed and they have vertical lines running along them, a woody/stringy texture which reminds me of the stems of P. subs. Some of the stems are somewhat hollow others feel a little more solid, but they are all quite fragile. The stems also appear to widen towards the Pileus, being thinner at the base.

Cap:
The caps range from ~0.5cm (on the immature or dryer specimens, i guess) to 4-5cm on the fresh ones. The colour of the dryer caps is quite gold, the fresher specimens are light brown/yellow. All of them gradated with the colour being stronger in the centre and fading or becoming lighter towards the outside of the caps. Some of the caps are conical, others are more along the lines of flat and wavy, and a few are bell-shaped... These bell-shaped ones seem to be a golden colour with the creases that give P. subs their, imo, distinct look. But those specimens are clearly also dryer than the others. But the gills and etc don't match up to be P. subs, in my opinion...  If there are two separate species here, they all appear to bruise a blue, black and even sometimes a dark red/brown. Blue is visible along the stems on some of them despite not even having been bruised. Occasionally it seems that if I lightly bruise the stem it turns a blue/black but if I bruise it harder they turn a dark reddish colour, but blue is visible either way, on the stem and caps and even parts of the mycelium... The middle of the caps are a darker gold with a gradient and becoming lighter towards the margin.

Spore print colour:
Print in progress. I just checked them a moment ago although they didn't appear to leave a visible print. I am thinking it is because all of the caps are somewhat too distorted to be able to get a nice print, but it may also be because the spores are white. I am now repeating the print on foil and I'll inform you guys of the results as soon as I know.

Bruising:
If i bruise them lightly they turn a dark blue/black and sometimes if I put more strength into it they'll bruise a very dark red to brownish colour. But blue is certainly visible, mottled on the caps, its highly apparent and the stems and even parts of the mycelium. Most of the stems show blue, even if they haven't actually been bruised. The ones which appear to bruise somewhat red also bruise blue as I said where I've rubbed them harder...

Other information:
I think (probably unlikely) that there may be two separate species here, but they may just be different ages... As some of them are a-lot dryer than the others. The stems and most (if not all) other characteristics are the same... I think the ones I am thinking are a different species are just dryer and thus have had time for the spores to accumulate on their gills and thus appear a different colour, these are also smaller, being dry. But they may very well all be the same species. As I said above, they were all growing within a space of 1.5 m^2.

I really have a good feeling about these shrooms though... But I've been having a hard time lately so am unsure of my instincts... Or whatever... That being said though, I think that even sitting beside this large quantity of shrooms and inhaling their spores has left me with some effects and lifted my mood to some extent... I am generally feeling pretty good about them...

I am thinking they are Pan. cyans...

All help greatly appreciated.

Link to photo gallery.

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Re: Hi guys, please help me ID these specimens - possibly two species. Found in Sydney, Australia [Re: curious_horse]
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They are likely a collybioid species, maybe related to Collybia fusipes or whatever thier current name is.
They are not a psychoactive species.

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Re: Hi guys, please help me ID these specimens - possibly two species. Found in Sydney, Australia [Re: Tangich]
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As far as i know no 'magic' mushrooms grow on woodbark at this time of year in aus. Go out looking in april just after the first decent rains and look for Psilocybe subaeruginosa. The bruising will be VERY noticeable and almost immediate. there wont be any reddish or rust coloured bruising at all

from another thread:
Dr. Sub said:
Woodchips in the winter, Pastures in the Summer.
Right now you should be looking for P. cubensis and Pan. Cyanescens in fields that have had cattle for extended periods.
In Australia You will only find active mushrooms (Psilocybe Subaeruginosa) on wood chips and leaf litter in winter.
Have a look here: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17775947/page/3
and here: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15988570/page/1
All the information you need is in those threads :P Happy hunting.





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Edited by sfkask8 (02/18/13 03:23 AM)

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Re: Hi guys, please help me ID these specimens - possibly two species. Found in Sydney, Australia [Re: sfkask8]
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Loloic, yeah I did take notice of his post last time, it was just that we have been having a reasonable amount of rain here at the moment and so I thought I'd try my luck...

These mushrooms do bruise somewhat blue though, is it possible that it contains at least some psilocybin? Or are there other causes for the blue bruising in mushrooms other than the oxidation of psilocybin? I wouldn't doubt there are other processes which can have similar effects but I am unaware of them...

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Re: Hi guys, please help me ID these specimens - possibly two species. Found in Sydney, Australia [Re: curious_horse] * 1
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No matter how hard u wish these will not turn into magic mushrooms


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Re: Hi guys, please help me ID these specimens - possibly two species. Found in Sydney, Australia [Re: gullhole]
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They aren't magic at all.

Also for the future when you hopefully do find a good patch: Cut the shrooms off at the base with a pair of scissors. That big clump of white stuff they're all stuck to on the bottom is called mycelium and its the part that actually grows the shrooms. if you rip that out of the ground those mushrooms wont grow there again for some time, if ever.


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“Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behaviour and information processing. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong.”
― Terence McKenna

We are a way for the cosmos to know itself.
- Carl Sagan

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