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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
akira_akuma said:
wow, so you do nothing but troll. awesome!




let he who is without sin...


Cast a zillion stones?


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Working hard and then having nothing to show for it does not work in the real world, humans need incentive, humans thrive on competition, it brings the best out of them.

The systems that you preach about have already been attempted many times in the past, the net result always remains the same, the people in charge of distributing the wealth and resources end up being corrupt, human nature always comes through at the end of the day.


I don't think you're giving credit to how much the human/civil rights and labor movements have contributed to the high standards of living in our society.  Humans need food, a safe healthy environment, and the chance to contribute to society in meaningful ways.  Unrestricted competition is not good for society, it is good for sociopaths.

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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
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luvdemshrooms said:
JoieDeVivre said:
No, not all. Even people with money have differing opinions on it's value and place in society, big shocker there.  :rolleyes:


Not at all? Yet you go on to say there are differing opinions?

You should roll your eyes at yourself for that one.


i think what she was saying was that your opinion on the matter doesn't summarize everyone's view on it.

but you should know that... but what else do you have but narcissism?
luvdemshrooms said:
JoieDeVivre said:
Go ahead and reread the quotes. I said "not all." I did not say "not at all," which is what you mistakenly thought I said. There was no contradiction in what I said, just in your interpretation of what I said. :smilingpuppy:


So your smugness revolves around that?

Good for you! I'm glad I made your day.



LOL ^
Prisoner#1 said:
akira_akuma said:
wow, so you do nothing but troll. awesome!




let he who is without sin...


well, you're a big ole' bad mod... you've got more a say in this then I. you're the one who should be, i guess, setting an example?
BlindSophist said:
Prisoner#1 said:
akira_akuma said:
wow, so you do nothing but troll. awesome!




let he who is without sin...


Cast a zillion stones?


penis + meat grinder

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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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BlindSophist said:
No, mine does.

We're two different people.


Yet both smug.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
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haha, everyone is smug. AHAHAHAHA, like you're not? you're the definition of smug. :lol:

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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: l3estever]
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l3estever said:
prisoner wants to know how buying pants is in fact a contract
"A contract is an agreement entered into voluntarily by two or more parties, each of whom intends to create one or more legal obligations between or among them. The elements of a contract are offer and acceptance by competent persons having legal capacity who exchange consideration to create mutuality of obligation, and, in some circumstances, do so in writing."
when you buy pants you are party 1 and the store is party 2.  you agree to the obligation of paying for it by taking it out of the store and the store agrees you can take it out of the store if you pay.  in the simplest sense the receipt is the written agreement.  does this make sense?




so you're saying that I'm legally obligated to buy my pants from party 1 and
that as party 2 I cannot purchase from party 3,4, 5 or q? a receipt is proof
of purchase and not an agreement


maybe you should keep hoping to stumble into something that's right, if
you're lucky you'll step in some while you're out mushroom hunting

Quote:
if you think that you shouldn't be responsible to help kids, even if they aren't your own you are a twisted man, already to corrupt to change your mind.  maybe i will go out and help kids and change their opinions, show that some people still care... does anyone else?


I do help kids, my own and not simply because I'm obligated to

by why should I be obligated for the retarded kids of retarded people living
in a desert and incapable of caring for themselves... let them die, they're
too stupid to live


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California Has Legalized Child Prostitution

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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
i think what she was saying was that your opinion on the matter doesn't summarize everyone's view on it.


No shit. Which is why I didn't say it was.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
akira_akuma said:
i think what she was saying was that your opinion on the matter doesn't summarize everyone's view on it.


No shit. Which is why I didn't say it was.


You did, you said no one who has the ability to make money agrees that money is bullshit.


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Sapere aude

"We cannot live for ourselves alone. Our lives are connected by a thousand invisible threads, and along these sympathetic fibers, our actions run as causes and return to us as results."


UBUNTU- I am because we are.


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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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i dunno about that.

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Those of us with the ability to make money disagree.


those of US? who is us, then? certainly not everybody.

so your original statement is inherently wrong. there are people who would complete disagree with the notion that making money, is anything more then just that... and that it isn't all that great. :shrug:

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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: moonrockmushy]
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moonrockmushy said:
qman said:
Working hard and then having nothing to show for it does not work in the real world, humans need incentive, humans thrive on competition, it brings the best out of them.

The systems that you preach about have already been attempted many times in the past, the net result always remains the same, the people in charge of distributing the wealth and resources end up being corrupt, human nature always comes through at the end of the day.


I don't think you're giving credit to how much the human/civil rights and labor movements have contributed to the high standards of living in our society.  Humans need food, a safe healthy environment, and the chance to contribute to society in meaningful ways.  Unrestricted competition is not good for society, it is good for sociopaths.


Yes, I guess the ultimate challenge is too maintain a healthy competitive environment for individuals and businesses.

Profitability is a healthy part of the process, breaking even is a silly concept that has a short life span in the real world.

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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: qman] * 2
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why do i need to profit? i don't want to revolve my life around money.

why do i need to be an entrepreneur to make any decent living wages? i simply don't like profit. profit sucks ass.

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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
luvdemshrooms said:
JoieDeVivre said:
No, not all. Even people with money have differing opinions on it's value and place in society, big shocker there.  :rolleyes:


Not at all? Yet you go on to say there are differing opinions?

You should roll your eyes at yourself for that one.


i think what she was saying was that your opinion on the matter doesn't summarize everyone's view on it.

but you should know that... but what else do you have but narcissism?
luvdemshrooms said:
JoieDeVivre said:
Go ahead and reread the quotes. I said "not all." I did not say "not at all," which is what you mistakenly thought I said. There was no contradiction in what I said, just in your interpretation of what I said. :smilingpuppy:


So your smugness revolves around that?

Good for you! I'm glad I made your day.



LOL ^
Prisoner#1 said:
akira_akuma said:
wow, so you do nothing but troll. awesome!




let he who is without sin...


well, you're a big ole' bad mod... you've got more a say in this then I. you're the one who should be, i guess, setting an example?
BlindSophist said:
Prisoner#1 said:
akira_akuma said:
wow, so you do nothing but troll. awesome!




let he who is without sin...


Cast a zillion stones?


penis + meat grinder



wow, so you do nothing but troll. awesome!


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California Has Legalized Child Prostitution

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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
You did, you said no one who has the ability to make money agrees that money is bullshit.


I assumed you were smart enough to realize that since I didn't include the word "all" you'd be able to grasp the point.

I guess I was incorrect.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
l3estever said:
prisoner wants to know how buying pants is in fact a contract
"A contract is an agreement entered into voluntarily by two or more parties, each of whom intends to create one or more legal obligations between or among them. The elements of a contract are offer and acceptance by competent persons having legal capacity who exchange consideration to create mutuality of obligation, and, in some circumstances, do so in writing."
when you buy pants you are party 1 and the store is party 2.  you agree to the obligation of paying for it by taking it out of the store and the store agrees you can take it out of the store if you pay.  in the simplest sense the receipt is the written agreement.  does this make sense?

if you think that you shouldn't be responsible to help kids, even if they aren't your own you are a twisted man, already to corrupt to change your mind.  maybe i will go out and help kids and change their opinions, show that some people still care... does anyone else?



so you're saying that I'm legally obligated to buy my pants from party 1 and
that as party 2 I cannot purchase from party 3,4, 5 or q?


maybe you should keep hoping to stumble into something that's right, if you're lucky you'll step in some while you're out mushroom hunting


no i never said that to your sad little kitten face.  by making the purchase you enter a contract with the seller and your legal obligation is that IT IS YOUR PROPERTY TO TAKE WITH YOU.  when the fuck did i even talk about party 3,4,5, or q?  those parties don't exist in this basic example.  if you went to a new store it would still be party 1 and 2.  just a different party playing the role of 2. 
fuck narrow minds and fuck people trying to start a fight where there doesn't need to be one.  i have never been this mad before behind my computer.  you definitely don't take the time to listen to the message you are giving to people... telling us that you don't mind the idea of children dying on the streets, and they can suffer and die as long as they don't have the money to pay up front for food.  PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE ME SICK.

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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: Prisoner#1]
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why, the penis meet meat grinder was trolling? i thought i was just telling dude to have some substance to his posts regarding mine, or meet the meat grinder. it was a proposition.

not trolling... like laughing at people's posts, and openly telling them "aghaha, i can't take your posts seriously but THEY ARE MAKIN ME LAUGH! LOL~!"

:bored: when there are trolls, trolling becomes common.

luvdemshrooms said:
JoieDeVivre said:
You did, you said no one who has the ability to make money agrees that money is bullshit.


I assumed you were smart enough to realize that since I didn't include the word "all" you'd be able to grasp the point.

I guess I was incorrect.


so it was just a completely incorrect statement. ok, cool. now that we're done with that...

...

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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
JoieDeVivre said:
You did, you said no one who has the ability to make money agrees that money is bullshit.


I assumed you were smart enough to realize that since I didn't include the word "all" you'd be able to grasp the point.

I guess I was incorrect.


So you weren't attempting to imply that people who think money sucks are just people who don't have the ability to make money? You're being so facetious right now. :ohyou:


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Sapere aude

"We cannot live for ourselves alone. Our lives are connected by a thousand invisible threads, and along these sympathetic fibers, our actions run as causes and return to us as results."


UBUNTU- I am because we are.


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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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Nope. Keep trying though.

If it warms your heart, add the word "some", or "many".


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
Nope. Keep trying though.

If it warms your heart, add the word "some", or "many".


nope, keep trying to top my insurmountable wit and rationale. you can't, cause i can't be wrong@!1

am i trolling now, Prisoner? i figured this was acceptable, because you're doing it... luvdem is trolling abound. so is this really a problem?

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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
BlindSophist said:
Money is bullshit.


Those of us with the ability to make money disagree.


Where does some fit, exactly? You said, "those of us," implying everyone with the ability.


--------------------
Sapere aude

"We cannot live for ourselves alone. Our lives are connected by a thousand invisible threads, and along these sympathetic fibers, our actions run as causes and return to us as results."


UBUNTU- I am because we are.


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Re: Here comes the student loan bailout [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 1
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JoieDeVivre said:
luvdemshrooms said:
BlindSophist said:
Money is bullshit.


Those of us with the ability to make money disagree.


Where does some fit, exactly? You said, "those of us," implying everyone with the ability.


well, you can say he meant "some of us with the ability..." which means that... his point is rendered moot and personalized.

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