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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: HB]
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I don't, I figured from your post you are either a hipster who produces crap or not an artist at all so you couldn't possibly understand


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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: Micawber]
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yeah, if you want to get paranoid about your torrenting, download peerblock and run it while u torrent, then look at the names of blocked IPs that pop up while your downloading


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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: bloodsheen]
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I was a visual artist in the past and used to spend over 8 hours a day producing artwork for various purposes.  I had a job as a graphic designer/illustrator for magazines for a few years, but aside from that I only produced art for my own enjoyment and to share with others for free.  But I also didn't make any money because I didn't market it (I lost interest in producing art by the time I was old and mature enough to realize that if I am going to spend 8+ hours a day doing something then I better be making money for it).


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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: HB] * 1
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Most musicians make most of their money from live shows these days anyways.



When you buy music, you're simply giving your money to record companies pretty much.

So if you care about a band, go see them live. Buying their album makes almost 0 difference to them. Your moral stand against pirating is completely ineffectual.


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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: propensity]
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I believe I just said I did it myself and decided I didn't care if it was stealing, which is like the opposite of a stance against pirating. And I realize that 13% of 12.99 isn't much, but 13% of 13 million dollars is quite a pretty penny. If most people thought the way you did these bands couldn't afford to produce

Personally I only buy albums of bands who I think are true artists and deserve my support.


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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: HB]
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i couldn't find all of Charles Mingus  nor Need New Body at my local music stores so, you know... i think i'll download it, and not feel bad about actually own some GOOD music, which rarely can be found anymore, without importing it from some long lost record supply. so fuck them and their bullshit, if i want something that's hard to get i'll get it. fuck them and fuck their politics.

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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: propensity]
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propensity said:
Most musicians make most of their money from live shows these days anyways.



When you buy music, you're simply giving your money to record companies pretty much.

So if you care about a band, go see them live. Buying their album makes almost 0 difference to them. Your moral stand against pirating is completely ineffectual.



truly disgustifying. horrible and twit-like. most people are stupid so i believe these markers are somewhat accrurate. producers get paid shit. lol, it's not as importent becaue you don't see him and he has no image!1 well well, that's biased and stupid and fuck record companies.

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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: Micawber]
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Hey guys

just wanted to say thanks for all the responses
good ol pubbers always a help:fonz:

i now feel better informed:yeahthatsright:


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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: Micawber]
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It's still possible to torrent anonymously, but clearly the golden days are over. I remember when you could get anything and everything via torrents, even really obscure stuff... RIP golden era of torrenting. Reminds me of when napster went down.

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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: Soulidarity]
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Soulidarity said:
yeah, if you want to get paranoid about your torrenting, download peerblock and run it while u torrent, then look at the names of blocked IPs that pop up while your downloading



Well peerblock doesn't work as according to the article there are many that are monitoring IP's that are not on any black list.

If super paranoid you should only connect to the internet with an anonymous live cd https://tails.boum.org/ through a strong vpn that keeps no logs http://btguard.com/?a=discounts.

For extra security never use your actual IP and driving miles away from your actual home and connecting to someone elses wifi either by cracking it or using an open connection.


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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
HB said:
I don't agree with people downloading copyright files for free that people and companies worked hard to create.  If I worked hard and created something (like a music album) and it was copyright, I would want people to spend money to get my product so that I am not working hard just to give my product away for free.  People need money to survive in this world, and creating a product that people want should mean getting the money for the product that is deserved so people can survive and make a living for themselves.

That is why I will never download copyright files :thumbdown:



On that same token, pirates will never go away, so the artists and companies need to figure out a way to change with the times and evolve with the pirates or they are just shooting themselves in the foot. Many artists are going off on their own now and making and promoting their own albums, giving it away for free and letting people download it for free. And profiting more than ever because no greedy middle man. Fuck the record companies we don't need you. People still make their money even with pirates existing you just have to figure out how to be smart, and not follow an archaic failing business model.



QFT

the 20th century ended, like 12 years ago


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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: Primal Glitch]
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This thread is hilarious. People wouldn't pirate so much if the price was right. After snacks/drinks it's like $20 fucking dollars per person to see a movie at the cinemas. Then you only have one other option after it comes out on DVD to buy it and assume you'll like it for $15-$20+ depending on if it's Blu-ray or not.

Sure redbox can let you check out movies for a dollar a night but then with most new titles you have to wait a month + after release before redbox even gets it. Plus redbox only covers movies, not even television.

It's just all around silly. Comcast internet + tv in my area is $100 a month for a step above basic cable and decent internet. This does not include a DVR. I never get to watch my shows because of this so I cancelled my TV and started pirating all of the shows I like.

Lets really be honest here. Everyone isn't stealing their favorite shows because they are free that way and they don't care about not supporting the companies they like that produce these shows... They are doing it because they simply cannot afford to watch what they want on their budget. This sounds like just about everyone in lower-lower middle class.

I'm just waiting for someone to take netflix/hulu to the next level as far as online entertainment goes. I would just for once in my god damn life be able to pick the 20 channels on all of TV that I actually like watching and pay a monthly fee based on those channels alone.

No thanks comcast, I don't need 300 channels I don't like plus the 20 I do for $79.99 a month. This is why I pirate and why anyone on their high horses are cracking me up. Yes good money goes into producing all of these shows but in a struggling economy is it really our biggest focus? Is it? Is it? Do we need to make sure hollywood stars are getting every penny they deserve?

I don't care what anyone says, I think the masses are being robbed blind by the entertainment industry when it comes to tv/movies/music. If I was a rapper I wouldn't always be talking about how fucking rich I am, maybe then my fan base would feel bad about stealing my music. Food for thought.

Edited by VaeVictum (09/05/12 07:45 AM)

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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: VaeVictum]
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VaeVictum said:
This thread is hilarious. People wouldn't pirate so much if the price was right. After snacks/drinks it's like $20 fucking dollars per person to see a movie at the cinemas. Then you only have one other option after it comes out on DVD to buy it and assume you'll like it for $15-$20+ depending on if it's Blu-ray or not.

Sure redbox can let you check out movies for a dollar a night but then with most new titles you have to wait a month + after release before redbox even gets it. Plus redbox only covers movies, not even television.

It's just all around silly. Comcast internet + tv in my area is $100 a month for a step above basic cable and decent internet. This does not include a DVR. I never get to watch my shows because of this so I cancelled my TV and started pirating all of the shows I like.

Lets really be honest here. Everyone isn't stealing their favorite shows because they are free that way and they don't care about not supporting the companies they like that produce these shows... They are doing it because they simply cannot afford to watch what they want on their budget. This sounds like just about everyone in lower-lower middle class.

I'm just waiting for someone to take netflix/hulu to the next level as far as online entertainment goes. I would just for once in my god damn life be able to pick the 20 channels on all of TV that I actually like watching and pay a monthly fee based on those channels alone.

No thanks comcast, I don't need 300 channels I don't like plus the 20 I do for $79.99 a month. This is why I pirate and why anyone on their high horses are cracking me up. Yes good money goes into producing all of these shows but in a struggling economy is it really our biggest focus? Is it? Is it? Do we need to make sure hollywood stars are getting every penny they deserve?

I don't care what anyone says, I think the masses are being robbed blind by the entertainment industry when it comes to tv/movies/music. If I was a rapper I wouldn't always be talking about how fucking rich I am, maybe then my fan base wouldn't feel bad about stealing my music. Food for thought.



:kaneclap:


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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: bloodsheen]
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abltsandwich said:
Our society thinks that money makes everything better.



Yeah I love when people say pirating will kill music, music existed long before it was possible to make recordings and it does not require copyright protections to continue to exist. I listen to a lot of Irish traditional music which has always been played mostly by people who do something else for a living. There are weekly sessions at different bars around town and there might be one or two players who are paid to host (e.g. $100 each), and the other 10 or 15 are doing it for fun. In my city most of those paid hosts do something unrelated as day jobs, and the few pros are not necessarily better musicians. The few professional Irish musicians around here seem to make more of their income giving lessons than playing gigs.

Most of the music is in the public domain and has been traded back and forth between players and gets changed and improved over the years, and as a result different settings of certain tunes predominate in different areas. There are apparently also quite a few "Irish" tunes that were actually Scottish in origin. If, instead of freely trading tunes back and forth,  players had instead spent that time suing each other for "stealing" ideas from each others' compositions, IMO the resulting music would be much shittier.

Mass marketed, over-produced commercial garbage music is mostly what's dying because of file trading, I think that's a good thing.

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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: Micawber]
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Stopped using Bit Torrent ever since I got a warning letter from my ISP.

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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: s240779]
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:casket:  Pop a pickle.  :casket:


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Edited by Humility (09/05/12 10:41 AM)

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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: nooneman] * 1
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nooneman said:
It's still possible to torrent anonymously, but clearly the golden days are over. I remember when you could get anything and everything via torrents, even really obscure stuff... RIP golden era of torrenting. Reminds me of when napster went down.



What?


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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
nooneman said:
It's still possible to torrent anonymously, but clearly the golden days are over. I remember when you could get anything and everything via torrents, even really obscure stuff... RIP golden era of torrenting. Reminds me of when napster went down.



What?



Oeh noes, demonoid is gone :frown:


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Re: BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored [Re: modern.shaman]
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modern.shaman said:
Soulidarity said:
yeah, if you want to get paranoid about your torrenting, download peerblock and run it while u torrent, then look at the names of blocked IPs that pop up while your downloading



Well peerblock doesn't work as according to the article there are many that are monitoring IP's that are not on any black list.

If super paranoid you should only connect to the internet with an anonymous live cd https://tails.boum.org/ through a strong vpn that keeps no logs http://btguard.com/?a=discounts.

For extra security never use your actual IP and driving miles away from your actual home and connecting to someone elses wifi either by cracking it or using an open connection.




oh i wasn't saying run peerblock as the be all and end all defence mechanism. i'm just saying, when you run peer block, it shows a live running log of the IP's it is blocking, and it has a name next to the IP thats being blocked. i regularly see "derpartment des federales" "warner bros", "viacom", numerous record companies and other movie companies


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