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Lophophora Id
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Hello ethnobotanical

Could anyone help me identify these lophs?




Thank You


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Re: Lophophora Id [Re: Left Of The Dial]
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A possible williamsii surrounded by caespitosa?
Or a pruned caespitosa that allowed one head to mature nicely.
Does it flower and self pollenate?
Which others are joined to the main head?


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Re: Lophophora Id [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
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This will be my first time saying it but ya that finally looks like a williamsii.

Caespitosa is still a williamsii i thought


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Re: Lophophora Id [Re: POWAtrippin]
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Thanks for taking a look you guys. This is my first loph.

GreedAndVanity said:
Caespitosa is still a williamsii i thought


I read that somewhere, also something about caespitosa possibly being a hybrid.

Is williamsii the only loph that does the caespitosa clumping thing??

and if anyone can tell...Does the main head appear to have already flowered some time ago or probably hasn't yet??


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Re: Lophophora Id [Re: Left Of The Dial]
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never read that it was a hybrid i highly doubt it is. source? i've only read it is a full williamsii and has identical alkaloid content


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Re: Lophophora Id [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
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Read some of it here. but perhaps I misunderstood the article. I think it might have only been stating that caespitosa is vegetatively reproduced.

Mostly_Harmless said:
A possible williamsii surrounded by caespitosa?
Or a pruned caespitosa that allowed one head to mature nicely.
Does it flower and self pollenate?
Which others are joined to the main head?


I've only had the plant for little over a week so haven't a clue about flowering or pollination.

They are all from the main head, a couple buttons with roots had come loose from the main body during shipping. 

I just planted them off to the side from the mother plant...hoping they would recover and possibly mature.

pruning the buds? Would that work later down the road, to help the smaller buttons to fully mature or flower?

Lets say after propagating a few of them seperate from the mother plant...?


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Re: Lophophora Id [Re: Left Of The Dial]
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definitely looks like loph Williamsii to me but I ain't an expert :rasta:


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Re: Lophophora Id [Re: 420milehigh]
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looks williamsii to me

jourdaniana also clumps, but you can distinguish that type because it produces tiny spines, not just hairy tufts




also, the main button looks to be totally dusted with pollen, so i think you will probably see that thing flowering pretty quick as long as you pot it nicely

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Re: Lophophora Id [Re: islanduniverse]
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thanks for the replies guys, islanduniverse.

I'm happy to hear that I likely have a williamsii.

I'll have to do some more research into caring for loph's...
I've got it in like a 70/30% Miracle Grow cactus soil and sand mixture. The same as my bridgesii. Does this sound ok? Do lophs dig something more?

I've been keeping it in a south facing window for light...

One last question if I may, Should I hold off on watering this time of year for dormancy this winter?

I haven't watered the lophs at all and I havent watered my trichs for about two weeks...

sorry for the newb questions, and thanks for the help so far, I greatly appreciate it!:sanpedro:


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Re: Lophophora Id [Re: Left Of The Dial]
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if you just got it you should pot it loosely in soil that might drain better
(i am using 1/3 MG cactus mix, 1/3 perlite, and 1/3 gray pumice)
you might let it sit for a couple weeks to get acquainted and to allow the roots to heal if needed

if the temps in your area are starting to drop you'll want to only water very little, and then not at all during the colder months

your mix is probably fine for bridgesii, but i understand they are more sensitive & might need to drain better also, as opposed to pedros which basically grow like mad no matter what

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Re: Lophophora Id [Re: Left Of The Dial]
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Left Of The Dial said:
Read some of it here. but perhaps I misunderstood the article. I think it might have only been stating that caespitosa is vegetatively reproduced.

Mostly_Harmless said:
A possible williamsii surrounded by caespitosa?
Or a pruned caespitosa that allowed one head to mature nicely.
Does it flower and self pollenate?
Which others are joined to the main head?


I've only had the plant for little over a week so haven't a clue about flowering or pollination.

They are all from the main head, a couple buttons with roots had come loose from the main body during shipping. 

I just planted them off to the side from the mother plant...hoping they would recover and possibly mature.

pruning the buds? Would that work later down the road, to help the smaller buttons to fully mature or flower?

Lets say after propagating a few of them seperate from the mother plant...?


Pruning new heads as they emerge will focus more growth to the main head.
Some specimens of caespitosa rarely have a head reach flowering age, the pruning will help.
Makes for a good supply of graft victims!
I'd be more inclined to go with Lophophora williamsii var. caespitosa, with such prolific pupping.


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Re: Lophophora Id [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
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I'd be more inclined to go with Lophophora williamsii var. caespitosa, with such prolific pupping.


heh yes, i was too lazy to type it out



by the way, the non-caespitosa also clump, just after many years

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Re: Lophophora Id [Re: islanduniverse]
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Yes many will, but not as much at a younger age as this one is doing. And with them coming off with their own roots started, that says to me caespitosa. Roots very very easily :grin:


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Re: Lophophora Id [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
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thanks for the help everyone!

I'll look into getting some perilite today. my mix doesn't seem to have much in it.


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Re: Lophophora Id [Re: Left Of The Dial]
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My cactus mix is about 50% pumice and perlite.  Seems to drain well.


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