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Totally disgusted with boxing
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Im done watching this corrupt shit seriously manny won that fight by sooo much how do they get away with something SO obvious?

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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: AndrewD]
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2 judges didnt think so, and even the judge who scored Manny higher, had it 115-113 so it must have at least been a close fight

Hopefully it gets uploaded somewhere on the net

Probably have to torrent it in a couple days

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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: KillerPicklez]
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Looking forward to watching the replay of this fight.

Manny was a HUGE favorite at about 5-1 in most books.  There are sure to be some VERY pissed off people tonight.  :minigun:

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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: KillerPicklez]
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ok buddy i watched it and im telling you it wasnt close manny landed literally 100 more punches manny CLEARLY won the fight and frankly if yo watch boxing and have watched it over the years you know what this fight was about the money and thats it, it was fixed boxing is corrupt

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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: AndrewD]
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How was it about money? not arguing, would just like to hear your train of thought

And I cant comment on specifics because I havent seen the whole thing

But obviously 3 judges thought it was close :shrug:

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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: KillerPicklez]
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KillerPicklez said:
How was it about money? not arguing, would just like to hear your train of thought

And I cant comment on specifics because I havent seen the whole thing

But obviously 3 judges thought it was close :shrug:



I saw the fight and Manny 110% won that fight. Ledermen score cards only had manny losing one round. It's super rigged and this was totally about money. This just generates a story line for the media to use. Of course they're gonna have a rematch in a few months, and people are going to buy into that's how they're making the money.

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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: MachineElf1.618]
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I'm serious, Picklez. Watch the fight. Watch it. Fucking Bradley won MAYBE two rounds. More likely one. Just watch. And for the fuck of it, lets give him 2 free rounds. That means he still lost 8-4.

Yes, the judges should (**should**) know light years more than I do. So I'll defer to other sports outlets.

The HBO analysts, who telecasted the fight -- their experts had it 11-1 Pacquiao. ELEVEN TO ONE. ESPN? ELEVEN TO ONE.

This is the single most amazing thing I have seen in sports.


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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: Nifflerz]
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LMFAO, even Bob Arum, who promotes BOTH Pacquiao AND Bradley, had it 10-2 Pac.


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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: Nifflerz]
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Pacquiao shocked in split decision
Updated: June 10, 2012, 2:55 AM ET
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com


Pacquiao Surprised By Outcome
LAS VEGAS -- Stunning, simply stunning.

Manny Pacquiao looked rejuvenated after a controversial split decision loss to Juan Manuel Marquez in November, but in what will surely go down as one of the most controversial decisions in boxing history -- one of the worst, really -- Timothy Bradley Jr. was awarded a split-decision win to claim a welterweight title on Saturday night before 14,206 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

This time, the judges got him. And they got him good. Maybe it was a makeup call for the Marquez fight?

Whatever it was, it was a shocking result after Pacquiao had spent virtually all of the fight beating Bradley to the punch, strafing him with power shots from both hands and visibly rocking him on multiple occasions.

Frankly, Pacquiao looked dominant, and those who thought he had lost a step after the performance against Marquez were wrong.

Those who thought his new devotion to his Catholic faith since that controversial win might lead him to be more focused on the Bible than the Bradley fight were also mistaken.

And those who thought Pacquiao's coming in at a career-heavy 147 pounds was a sign that he wasn't in top shape were also mistaken.

But Bradley still got the decision.

Pacquiao, of course, thought he won.

"No doubt," he said.

Judge Jerry Roth had it 115-113 for Pacquiao, but C.J. Ross and Duane Ford both scored it 115-113 for Bradley, a junior welterweight titlist who moved up to challenge Pacquiao in his fourth title defense.

ESPN.com had it 119-109 for Pacquiao. HBO's unofficial judge, Harold Lederman, also had it 119-109 for Pacquiao, meaning he gave Bradley only one round. Most ringside media also scored it clearly for Pacquiao.

"I did my best, but I guess my best wasn't good enough," Pacquiao said. "I've been watching his fight tapes. There were no surprises. He never hurt me with his punches. Most of them hit my arms. I don't know what happened."

What happened was that two judges had a horrible night. Even the judge who had it for Pacquiao wasn't so hot.

The night started weird and got even stranger with the decision. Bradley was gloved up and ready to go, but Pacquiao (54-4-2, 38 KOs) was nowhere to be found. He wasn't in his dressing room. As it turned out, he was working out on a treadmill to make sure he didn't suffer the calf cramps that have bothered him in past fights.

He finally arrived back in his dressing room about 15 minutes later, but still needed to receive referee instructions and get his gloves put on, forcing a lengthy delay before the ring walks.

Top Rank's Bob Arum, who promotes Pacquiao and Bradley, was stunned. He said he had it 118-110 for Pacquiao.

"When I came into the ring [after the fight], I said to Tim, 'You did very well,' and he said 'I tried hard and I couldn't beat the guy. You talk about killing boxing. Even [Bradley's manager, Cameron Dunkin] had it 8-4 for Pacquiao.

"Something like this is so outlandish, it's a death knell for the sport. This is f------ nuts. I have both guys, and I'll make a lot of money in the rematch, but it's ridiculous. You have these old f---- who don't know what the hell they're looking at. It's incompetence. Nobody who knows anything about boxing could have Bradley ahead in the fight."

Pacquiao has a rematch clause in his contract, and the date was already determined to be Nov. 10 in the event of a rematch. Bradley even had a mock oversized ticket and mock poster printed to show off during the promotion to show people his confidence.

Bradley (29-0, 12 KOs) didn't sound like a man who thought he won the fight.

"It was a good fight. Every round was pretty close," Bradley said. "Pacquiao won the early rounds, I won the later rounds with my jab. I have to go home and see the tape to see who won."

The CompuBox statistics favored Pacquiao, who landed more punches than Bradley in 10 of the 12 rounds. Pacquiao landed 253 of 751 punches (34 percent), while Bradley landed 159 of 839 (19 percent). Pacquiao also landed 82 more power shots (190-108).

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Although Bradley was game, he didn't seem to land many effective or clean shots. Pacquiao, meanwhile, landed a lot of shots. He shook Bradley several times in the fight, including with a combination late in the third round.

"Manny hurt me a few times in the fight with his left," Bradley said. "He's a beast, but my corner told me if I won the last round, I would win the fight. I gotta give Manny a rematch.

"Manny was aggressive, but he only landed four or five clean shots. He's a strong puncher, he rocked me a couple times. I withstood it and fought hard to the end."

In the fourth round, Pacquiao clobbered Bradley with two left hands that clearly rocked him and turned his legs to jelly.

On and on it went. Pacquiao, 33, whose 15-fight winning streak ended, hurt Bradley with a left hand again in the toe-to-toe fifth round. Bradley crashed into the ropes and Pacquiao followed with combinations. Bradley showed a good chin and was swinging for the fences, but he was mostly missing.

Then there was the sixth round, when Pacquiao trapped Bradley, 28, in the corner and unloaded several shots. Yet, two judges didn't acknowledge it.

Bradley, who earned a minimum of $5 million while Pacquiao made at least $26 million, fought most of the fight with an injured left ankle, which he rolled in the fourth round.

But he shook it off.

"I stepped on his ankle," Bradley said. "I'm really not sure what happened. I was just trying to get out of the way of Manny's punches. I got my second wind in the sixth round. I was sticking and moving."

There will be an uproar over the decision. The sides will say their peace and then they will likely settle matters -- which really don't need to be settled given Pacquiao's dominance -- in that Nov. 10 rematch.

"This feels great, but I'm not satisfied," Bradley said. "I hear the boos. People think I lost. Let's do it again. This is boxing. Nov. 10, we can do the rematch."

Pacquiao said he wants the rematch, too.

"No problem," he said. "I'll be ready for the rematch."


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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: Nifflerz]
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Its pathetic Arum is behind it i suspect, its just sad atleast have the decency to not continue to fix the fight when manny is cleary winning by a ridiculous margin, a fucking five year old could have scored it better then those judges boxing is becoming a complete joke
EDIT: also i dont even need a rematch we all know who won that fight a rematch is only rewarding the fixers more

Edited by AndrewD (06/10/12 03:23 AM)

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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: AndrewD]
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Probably going to try and setup a Mayweather vs. Bradley fight

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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: AndrewD]
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idc at all anymore ive given up on this sport untill they put a stop to the corruption, mma is much more competitive anyway and much more fun to watch

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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: KillerPicklez]
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KillerPicklez said:
Probably going to try and setup a Mayweather vs. Bradley fight



Nope. They're setting up a Pac-bradley rematch. Bradley and Pac said as much after the fight. They already have a fucking date (LOLOLOLOL). November 10. Just like Andrew said, this is an Arum thing. Arum hates Mayweather. Mayweather hates Arum. Arum knows Mayhweather doesn't want Pacquiao. Floyd has used every fucking ploy imaginable to duck him. First the steroid accusation. Then the "I'm not doing a 50/50 split" ploy. Manny offered a 45/45 split with the winner taking the last 10 percent. Any fighter worth a fuck would have taken that, but Floyd, once again (fucking bitch) declines.

So, now, this sets up a rematch that has the entire boxing public buzzing because of the biblical controversy. It will rake in light years of PPV money that tonight's fight had. Just because of controversy alone.

Genius by Arum, yes. But my God, man. What a fucking evil piece of shit fucker he is.

This is all Arum and Andrew is 100% right. No motherfucking human being with an IQ over 4 would have given this fight to Bradley. Bradley got his ass whooped.


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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: Nifflerz]
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Last I had heard, Mayweather agreed to 50/50 split. This was maybe a month or two ago, let me try and hunt down a link

I think Pacman was dodging more than Floyd. I think Pacman has to prove himself against Floyd now, that's the only way to save face.

Did Paci and Bradley really already setup a rematch with Nov 10th date?

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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: KillerPicklez]
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What Mayweather told Bob Costas in early 2012

“I’m in a great position, a very lucrative position,” Mayweather told Costas, who was pressuring him to accept the 50-50 split with Pacquiao. “I’m NOT giving up the split. I can’t. I can’t afford to.”

Mayweather then went on to say, "I am the most marketable fighter in the sport. Why would I do a split with him?"

Manny didn't want a split. He wanted 45/45 with the final 10 going to the winner. That's fair, right? Considering these two are the two most marketable fighters in the sport?


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Edited by Nifflerz (06/10/12 04:24 AM)

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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: Nifflerz]
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BTW, here's the link

http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/mayweather-finally-admits-cowardice-health-concerns-are-why-he-ducked-pacquiao/

And yes, besides signing on the dotted line, both Pac and Bradley have already verbally agreed to a rematch set for November 10. They said it on the air tonight immediately after the fight. Bradley said that if Pac wants to make up for the controversial decision, to come fight him November 10th. Max Kellerman (of HBO) then asked Manny if that was something he'd consider, and Manny said "absolutely, yes".


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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: Nifflerz]
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Okay, I swear, I'm going to lay off this subject for a while after this. I'm beating a dead horse right now, but fuck it. This is a must read.

Now, I know you can't go off compubox alone, but check this out.

Bradley attempted 89 more total punches, yet Pacquiao landed 94 more. 94.

Bradley had a 19 percent land percentage versus 34 for Pacquiao.

Bradley attempted 191 more jabs. Yes, you read that correctly. Manny though landed 12 more. Percentage landed? Bradley 11%. Pacquiao 24%.

Pacquiao landed EIGHTY-TWO more power punches than Bradley. 39% landed by Manny, 28% for Bradley.

Think about those numbers for a second.


Dude.


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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: SbstratAlchemist]
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SbstratAlchemist said:
Looking forward to watching the replay of this fight.

Manny was a HUGE favorite at about 5-1 in most books.  There are sure to be some VERY pissed off people tonight.  :minigun:



I was in Vegas for the super bowl this year, shortly after the game there was this guy lighting his patriots jersey on fire. I assumed he had lost a fatty bet haha.


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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: Enjoywho]
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Speaking of boxing, did any of you see that Victor Ortiz (the dude that got sucker punched by Floyd) will miss out on like 5 to 10 mil by losing his fight last night with Josesito Lopez? Dudes. Lopez was supposed to be a tune up for his big PPV fight with Canelo...instead he got his jaw broke with a mammoth shot in the ninth, and his corner had to throw in the towel.

Bye bye PPV showcase.


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Edited by Nifflerz (06/25/12 07:22 AM)

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Re: Totally disgusted with boxing [Re: Nifflerz]
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no shit? i missed that too, I am finding a replay now

wow.. that's some shit.. if boxing needed anything, it needed this.

Edited by KillerPicklez (06/25/12 06:09 AM)

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