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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
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This whole talk about God and Mushrooms and Christianity.
You have to face the simple fact, that the American government gives shit about your interpretation of the Bible.

They simple don?t work as they are supposed to in "your world".
As long you can?t step up from your Christian view of the facts to an more objective view of the things without your Christan veil that blurs the vision, all this won?t work out well.

I?m not against anyones religion, believe what you want, if you?re Christian, Muslim, Buddhists or Hindu or whatever, believe what you want, but don?t let the religion blacken your vision and mind, don?t let it cover the real world.


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: Anno]
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You are getting nowhere with all of this [Re: World Spirit]
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*yawn*

sincerely, good luck with your website, the 'legalise shrooms' site. i'm glad you're keeping it well away from the shroomery, as your views do not speak for me, and i think your arguments will fall very flat once you start on the old 'God created mushrooms' line. as others have pointed out, you are running into a brick wall that does not want to move, and the extra heat will do this site no favours at all.

no offence intended, congrats on speaking your mind - but do not let your naive idealism land you in jail. this is not a fair world.

:laugh:sk
xx

 


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[Re: shirley knott]
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Edited by matts (06/16/03 07:59 AM)

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Re: You are getting nowhere with all of this [Re: shirley knott]
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>i'm glad you're keeping it well away from the shroomery

Says who?


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
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Psilocybes and intellect go hand-in-hand. Psilocybes and spirituality go hand-in-hand.
Intellect will ultimately drive you to the heart of religious matters, however you choose to define religion. It is in this intensity that truths become magnified IMO.

I trust you will prove to be of the same disposition if you continue on with mushrooms, Anno. You may sharply disagree with me, but one philosophy or another, you will be of a stronger opinion than those who choose another form of entertainment.
 


What if i enjoy meditating on marijuana? or using peyote?  What you say aplies to all entheogens...not just mushrooms.  Why fight for one and not the others? :confused:


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Re: You are getting nowhere with all of this [Re: Anno]
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Re: You are getting nowhere with all of this [Re: World Spirit]
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There is no logical argument against God.

All I?m saying: don?t mix your religious believes with the legal status of a substance. It won?t work.


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Re: You are getting nowhere with all of this [Re: World Spirit]
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BAN ENTER!

i used to respect him then he started talking about alll this christian shit and wont respect anyone elses point of view. not even the point of view of an admin who is undoubtedly more intelligent than he will ever be. so what you have the support of two admins Enter? so what everybody else here is against this if you want to do it do it somewhere else. the longer this thread goes on the more i realize that this is a bad idea.

blaze2


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"Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
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"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
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It is my conclusion that psilocybes give mankind the ultimate frame of mind to consider such heavy aspects of truth, and Christianity is hardly
the surface to a deeper truth. Psilocybes and intellect go hand-in-hand. Psilocybes and spirituality go hand-in-hand.


...but not other entheogens...

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I trust you will prove to be of the same disposition if you continue on with mushrooms, Anno. You may sharply disagree with me, but one philosophy or another, you will be of a stronger opinion than those who choose another form of entertainment.



Another form of entertainment?!..like smoking pot an meditating?...or spiritual exploration through the use of peyote?

Let me get this straight. There are pharmeceuticals, legal drugs like tabaco and alcohal, illegal drugs like lsd and coke, entheogens, and entheogenic mushrooms. But these mushrooms are somehow better, or more spiritual than the other entheogens... and should be the sole recipient of legalisation right?

...man your fucked up...oh, sorry i dont want to seem violent and hostile or anything...uh gee man, you need to think on this more......,there!....


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Re: You are getting nowhere with all of this [Re: matts]
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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
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[quoteIt is my conclusion that psilocybes give mankind the ultimate frame of mind to consider such heavy aspects of truth, and Christianity is hardly
the surface to a deeper truth. Psilocybes and intellect go hand-in-hand. Psilocybes and spirituality go hand-in-hand.
Intellect will ultimately drive you to the heart of religious matters, however you choose to define religion. It is in this intensity that truths become magnified IMO.



My brain works perfectly without the daily tryptamine! Nad Im smart without drugs! Think of you campaigning schools saying we should shroom in assemblies before school every second monday of the month. No! this doesnt appeal to me!


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[Re: JazzMatazz]
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Edited by matts (06/16/03 06:57 PM)

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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: matts]
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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
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Oh yes! Its one of Enter?s quoteful posts! Keep up the good work, you?re an original! (I hope :wink: :crazy: )

Enter said:
I hope you realize that you've made no point but that of a shallow conclusion that God is dead and that you could care less about respecting people who have religious beliefs.


Where did he say that?! He said that god is alive for everyone who wants him to be alive, and that he respects it. And yes he could care less, cause he does care for these people! (You probably meant he couldnt care less.)
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To you, religion is the core of lies perhaps, but to others there is a type of religion that is sincere and true. You should respect this instead of treating every religious person like a terrorist.


Your inferring too much. He never says that. I think getting aroused at such an extent shows, that you do not really tolerate people who dont believe in what you believe.
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You are anti-freedom if people do not have freedom of religion.
Furthermore, you've managed to attempt to make me look like a strange mushroom crusader who's going to force mankind to eat psilocybes. Who's deceived here, me or my adversaries? Who's trying to be honest and who's exaggerating in ways that are in line with theatre?
 


Who at first only wanted truthful and hard-working christians to help? Who?s never answering questions, but merely picking on posters cause of apparent weak-spots in their argumentation? Who, doesnt want to listen to everyone else? Who?s intolerant? And finally: Who?s getting aroused? - Get it?!     
Stop defending yourself with rhetorics, but with facts man. (But it is too late, noone is of your opinion, you?ve got to face that)

please keep them posts coming, Im giving you 5 stars!
Jazz 


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: JazzMatazz]
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Does enter have a responce to my last post? Or is it just ignored in the hopes that attention will be swayed away from this crutial point...

You've said your only legalising psilocybes because none of the others drugs suit your "tastes"....this is a big hole in your "crusade"... :wink:

edit: [Enter writes]I'm not into Cannabis or Salvia. I only wish to see psilocybes legalized. This is a very important issue to me at the present moment. I'm not against Cannabis and other ethnobotanicals, but they're just not my 'cup of tea.'

What do you have to say about this?


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Edited by Azmodeus (06/17/03 11:26 AM)

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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: matts]
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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: ]
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very diplomatic answer! :wink: 


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