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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1623065 - 06/10/03 04:18 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

> This of course, includes those who do not yet call themselves Christians.

Christians, Christians .....What does the fucking Christianity has to do with mushrooms? Mushrooms were used long before the Christians nearly extinguished the cultures who used them....

Being a Christian or Moslem or Budhist of whatever won?t help the cause...


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: Anno]
    #1623164 - 06/10/03 06:55 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1623180 - 06/10/03 07:06 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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I This of course, includes those who do not yet call themselves Christians.




damn that statement almost made me vomit............


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1623512 - 06/10/03 11:13 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Im sorry to say, that you are wierd and antisemitic (dunno word for all religions).
Why do you always talk so effusively?! Do you think this preacher talk is gonna get you somewhere?
Shrooms are on the planet cause of random evolution, ok? They where not put here by the creator cause of some special reason. - stance


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #1623938 - 06/10/03 02:47 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: ]
    #1623969 - 06/10/03 02:58 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Damn straight! Im for the cause, but im not going to risk my freedom to fight for something i can do anyways. I have enough spores to last a lifetime, and i've already gotten a few people into cultivation, hell i can't even imagine how many people i could get started with the prints i have...

But really everything pardis said about the gov and your rights is true. You really dont have a say, and anything you do that would increase awarness of mushrooms will bring the wrath of beurocricy down upon you, and those involved.

And whats with the legalize mushroom stance? Pot, mushrooms, salvia...they're all the same cause, and to fight for one and not the others is ridiculous.



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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: Azmodeus]
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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1624445 - 06/10/03 07:01 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

The WOD is a war on personal freedom and just because you don't partake in other entheogens doesn't mean you should accept the criminalization of other "drugs" and subsequent persecution of non-violent, consensual "criminals". I know this runs OT of the thread at hand but I feel pretty strongly about this. That is a pretty closed minded and selfish POV you have there.


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    #1625835 - 06/11/03 06:43 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1626299 - 06/11/03 12:14 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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Whether you believe in evolution or creation, faith is required to fully embrace either idea because we simply cannot fully validate either idea at the present moment.
I know God is alive and accessible to those who are in tune with the sacred and with some degree of truth.



If we cannot fully validate either idea, howcome you say "I know god is alive".
If you were tolerant to other believes you would say. I , for myself, believe in god as the creator. Oh and you definately wouldnt say people who dont believe in God to know the truth.
On a side note: Ive encountered many Americans who believe Christianity is the only truth. This is not right, and although this is not the topic I cannot leave this unstated:
  • EVERYONE IS EQUAL, NO MATTER WHAT HE BELIEVES IN.
  • IT DOESNT MAKE YOU SMARTER IF YOUR CHRISTIAN.
  • NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE CHRISTIAN! (You are not there to spread Christianity(see Irak, and think again...))


sorry for not sticking to the topic, but I had to release the pressure from my mind.


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #1626844 - 06/11/03 04:19 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1626911 - 06/11/03 04:48 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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Pot, mushrooms, salvia...they're all the same cause, and to fight for one and not the others is ridiculous. 




I'm not into Cannabis or Salvia. I only wish to see psilocybes legalized. This is a very important issue to me at the present moment. I'm not against Cannabis and other ethnobotanicals, but they're just not my 'cup of tea.'  :cool: :wink: 




Oh, well then count me out...and probably most others.  Why are you going to fight a war to legalise mushrooms and nothing else?! :confused:  so assuming mushrooms become legal, then its the cannabis, then the salvia, then the acid....best to fight the issue at hand and that is the freedom to consume natural substances which produce a psycadelic effect.

I know your invitation is to everyone, but i get the impression you prefer to work with people who do not question the stupidity of religion, and can only see mushroom legalisation as the primary goal....

If your goal is to legalise shrooms, your sunk before you start, as that is only a battle in the overall war.


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1628138 - 06/12/03 05:11 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1628607 - 06/12/03 10:32 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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Many of us would be very happy if we simply didn't have to worry about being imprisoned over eating a few mushrooms each year. It would make the experience all the more viable to the human experience, without the paranoia and intellectual interference that governments try to create.




Hmm i doubt its as many as you would hope..., but i smoke pot when on shrooms and so do many others....i'd still have to be worried about getting arrested/hassled... can you not see the futility of fighting for mushroom legality alone?!

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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1628812 - 06/12/03 12:13 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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You're taking this thread way off topic, and you're showing that you're insecure in your current inability to believe in God.



Why? Please elaborate , how I seem insecure to you.
I wont start a new thread, cuz there?s nothing to discuss.


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #1629008 - 06/12/03 01:30 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Your not a christian, and thus your view is clouded making you insecure whether you can tell or not! :grin:

Satan has decieved you!


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1629253 - 06/12/03 03:42 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

actually I am still christened although I dont believe in god.
So I should still a partly be capable of following this thread! :wink:
(Although my mind does seem very clouded in the last years, as I have come to the belief, that their is no non-human force (christians call it "God") controlling my life. Thus I must be fast in replying in this thread as my mind fades deeper and deeper into the lurky dark depths of atheism)
Sorry Enter, couldnt help going on with Azmodeus, it?s just too funny! :smile: 


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: JazzMatazz]
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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1629315 - 06/12/03 04:15 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks, but you can just keep that bookmarked....most of us know what common means...thanks anyway....

But back to the topic at hand...
Hows all this goin enter? Do you have enough mushroom legalise only christians helping you?, or do you begin to grasp the enormity of your task?....the futility?...



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