Cj-B said:

Instead of having him smoke JWH teach him how to extract DMT/Mescaline.

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Yes those are some nice, similar alternatives.

Ombient said:

Cj-B said:

Instead of having him smoke JWH teach him how to extract DMT/Mescaline.

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Yes those are some nice, similar alternatives.

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Jwh is similar to DMT/Mescaline?

Ieponumos said:

Now that I think about it ... If there's no pharmacokinetic data, then they wouldn't know what metabolites to look for (or what metabolites are even produced for that matter), so your friend is in the clear by my eye.

How can they test for metabolites if they don't even know what they are yet?

iwasaClown said:

Not long enough for you to ever have to worry about.

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I dunno. Look at how the body stores THC metabolites in fat cells. For all we know, JWH's could have the same thing going on.

Only hard science can tell.

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AquaKet said:

Ieponumos said:

Now that I think about it ... If there's no pharmacokinetic data, then they wouldn't know what metabolites to look for (or what metabolites are even produced for that matter), so your friend is in the clear by my eye.

How can they test for metabolites if they don't even know what they are yet?

iwasaClown said:

Not long enough for you to ever have to worry about.

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I dunno. Look at how the body stores THC metabolites in fat cells. For all we know, JWH's could have the same thing going on.

Only hard science can tell.

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Toxicology labs have identified multiple JWH metabolites and they do test for them.

http://www.redwoodtoxicology.com/services/synthetic_cannabinoid_testing.html

Quote:

URINE TESTING:

    * Urine test identifies synthetic cannabinoids (JWH-018 and JWH-073) and their metabolites

    * Precise urine metabolite detection, significantly more reliable than only testing for parent-drug in human urine

    * Presence of metabolites confirms ingestion; following a single low dose the window of detection is up to 72 hours (in case of chronic use the detection window could be longer)

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This lab says it can be detected up to 72 hours, but I have read at least a half dozen reports of people testing positive for JWH metabolites for much, much longer than 72 hours. As I said, some people claim to have tested positive for it 2-3 weeks after last using. Also, they only list several JWH's, but apparently a lot of different JWH's share the same metabolites, as people have tested positive while using JWH's other than 018 and 073.

If you're on probation and they test for JWH, you really shouldn't be messing around with it.

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