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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5957864 - 08/12/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not to argue with you Prisoner as I greatly respect what you post, but once I get my azz together, I can show you endless photos/video tapes of gall bladder/liver stones, me throwing around pieces of rubber in my yard that came out of my ass on the 10th day of a water fast, ect. I could go on and on FOREVER with these examples. HOWEVER, I do NOT believe this is true of everyone, and I wouldn't try to push anyone towards the path I walk. The proper diet can and will cure all. But just like every other case in a capitalistic society, the natural living/health food market is over run with scams, lies, and over pricing of the most meger of items.
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: ChickenPotPie]
#5958022 - 08/12/06 11:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're right there.. there is zero regulation on herbs and quality/potency by the FDA or anyone else for that matter. Sad but true. That's why you have to go with trusted names that have a solid reputation of quality (have been tested extensively). Usually freeze dried herbs are the best, but how they were grown is the biggest factor. If you can get them fresh, even better. Generally speaking, grocery stores have commercial herbs that are mass produced and not always very potent.. while specialized health food stores tend to stock higher quality products, in my experience. I know that's not always the case, though.
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: Shroomism]
#5959424 - 08/13/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was thinking of drinking a lot of V8 but I wonder what the 'flavoring' is in the ingredients.
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#5959449 - 08/13/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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V8 is crap. Tasty crap though. Get a juicer and make the real stuff. After a while you'll be able to taste the difference between what's good for you and what's not. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go break this 3 day juice fast with a burrito
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: ChickenPotPie]
#5959532 - 08/13/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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ChickenPotPie said: Not to argue with you Prisoner as I greatly respect what you post, but once I get my azz together, I can show you endless photos/video tapes of gall bladder/liver stones
gall stones = real liver stones = non-existant kidney stones = real
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me throwing around pieces of rubber in my yard that came out of my ass on the 10th day of a water fast, ect.
this water fast included some sort of detox/system cleaner? this 'Mucoid Plaque' is caused by the product
do a little search on shit phenomenon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fraud
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I could go on and on FOREVER with these examples.
I can find testimony about the quality and benefits of many product, things that improve health and wellbeing, boost your love life and promote all around greatness, most of whih are in the same category
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5960280 - 08/13/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was weary about the chances that the "muccoid plaque" was really the psyillium and Benoite, but when I water fast, I take in nothing but water, a shot of juiced lemon in the evening and apple cider vinegar in the morning, so after 5, 10, 15, 20+ days, there's not much left to be had. Plus, I am rail thin, down to about a 29 inch (from a high of 39) waist, and I eat one vegetarian meal a day 90% of the time. I am FAR from plugged up, normal transit time of about 13 hours. There's also a MAJOR consistency issue. Whatever you want to call it can very from a distinct rubbery consistency to rock hard. I have a bathroom dedicated to this whole ordeal, and it's like a lab. I agree with you though that most crap is poor quality, and that the natural health industry looks like the pharmaceutical industry as they want to sell you a ton of crap, but don't really want you to get better, or educated. Who gets paid off of healthy people??
PS My bad on calling them "liver stones". I consider the health of the liver/gall bladder to be VERY dependant on each other and I mis-spoke. You are correct.
Diet cures all.
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: ChickenPotPie]
#5999168 - 08/26/06 02:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Since I started this I got some crazy high octane farts. Is that normal?
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: Shroomism]
#5999247 - 08/26/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: You'll want to go on a special diet for a week or so.
Mix in a glass of lukewarm water:
teaspoon cayenne pepper juice of a full, fresh-squeezed lemon a bit of honey
Chug. Daily. Around lunch time.
Eat: Lots of raw fruit. Lots of raw vegetables. Or lightly steamed vegetables. But don't mix fruits and vegetables in the same meal.
Don't eat much more than this. Unless it's whole grains, nuts, or such. Avoid all processed and fried and fatty foods.
Cleansing of the colon can be accelerated through the use of psyllium, flax seeds, and slippery elm. Which coincidentally, are extremely rich in fiber, vitamins and micronutrients.
Recommended to take ground flaxseeds mixed in water first thing in the morning.
Drink at least 8 glasses of water a day. Very important. If you drink something besides water, make it fresh fruit juice. OJ is very, very good.
This diet will dissolve mucoid plaque, eliminate toxins and cleanse the colon while providing optimum nutrition. Cleansing the colon is the first step to cleansing the rest of the body. If you attempt to cleanse your system without first addressing a waste filled bowel, the toxins will be recycled back into the body. For optimum cleansing you would want to give yourself a salf water enema after about the third day. 
You would probably only need to do this diet for about a week.
Once the colon is clear, you want to think about cleansing the kidneys. A better diet (lots of fruits and vegetables) and drinking plenty of water is usually enough. The best thing you could do for your kidneys at this point, is eat as much watermelon as you can. Get a few huge melons and go nuts. Even better, is to eat the watermelon while sitting in a bathtub full of water. And urinate whenever you need to. (not in the water... )
After it is all said and done, I would recommend goldenseal supplements daily for further full-system cleansing and nutrition. Keep drinking lots of water every day, and maintain as healthy a diet as you can.
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: Shroomism]
#5999251 - 08/26/06 03:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not just Cayenne, but Any Capsicum containing pepper, I would assume. But I guess cayenne is just the right amount of spicy. Funny you mention this plan Shroomism, because I've heard it before, and I am glad you brought it up./
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#5999565 - 08/26/06 06:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#6000748 - 08/27/06 03:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Farting is normal.. yes... it's a healthy thing.. But.. the way you say high octane leads me to believe it's more than normal.. which could be indicative of you not actually digesting the food you eat well enough.
Some advice:
Chew your food. Well. Don't eat fruit "for dessert". Eat it on an empty stomach. Or a couple hours after a big meal.
Although... if you eat a lot of processed foods, and make the jump to whole, unprocessed foods, doing so can result in lots of farting in the beginning. Due to your intestines and the trillions of bacteria that live in them to get used to them. So yes it's perfectly normal. Give it a few weeks.. you'll adapt.
Also.. implement some ginger into your diet.. it will help digestion in general.
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: Shroomism]
#6000815 - 08/27/06 05:37 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks.
WTF does 'tag' mean?
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#6000817 - 08/27/06 05:38 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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PS I do eat fruit for dessert. Why shouldn't I?
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#6001231 - 08/27/06 10:39 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think it's due to protein. Fruit is very low in protein compared to other foods, including vegetables.. and high in acids. Foods that have significant amounts of protein must spend an hour and a half or so in the stomach to be properly broken down by stomach acids.. if fruit gets caught up in there where there are other foods churning already.. it's possible some of the fruit will rot or putrefy.. resulting in gas or toxic formation. Thus eat fruit on an empty stomach or 2 hours after a meal.
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: ChickenPotPie]
#6003887 - 08/28/06 06:25 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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ChickenPotPie said: The bad food and toxins build up in us like layers of glue, and it's a long process to liquidize a layer, strip it out to get to the next one, liquidize that layer, strip it out, on to the next one......
Can anyone tell me exactly what those toxins are suppose to be?
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#6003987 - 08/28/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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SunRa,
Please please please, don't buy any of this stuff. It's all just a bunch of charlatans trying to make money and feel important. As zenmunk had the good sense to ask, do you know what these toxins are? How, specifically, do these herbs cleanse your system? Why would an organ system evolve to both perform a function, and perform the exact opposite of the same function? If you want to be good to your colon, exercise, eat healthy and don't drink too much.
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: Gijith]
#6004425 - 08/28/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not trying to sell ANYTHING. But to say that our organs are somehow built to handle the completely crazy things that we ingest living in the modern world is sorta crazy. Simply the fact that half of Americans are clinically obese (80% of adults in Idaho!) that 40% of our kids under 14 have juvenile diabetes and moving on a sharp uptrend suggests that we haven't adapted too well. But as I said before, you said it, and I'll say it again, WITHOUT A PROPER DIET, IT DOESN'T MATTER!!
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: zenmunk]
#6004432 - 08/28/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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In referring to toxins, I was talking about intestinal toxemia. I guess you could say anything that harms the body is a toxin, but in this case I was talking about alimentary canal impaction from an improper diet.
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: Gijith]
#6004890 - 08/28/06 02:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gijith said: How, specifically, do these herbs cleanse your system?
Cayenne Pepper Cayenne pepper has a tonic and antiseptic effect, stimulating the circulatory and digestive systems and increasing perspiration.
It contains capsaicnoids such as capsaicin, as well as vitamin C, saponins and pyrazines. The color of the fruit is due to the carotenoids contained.
- Internal use
* Cayenne pepper is used internally to improve circulation, for the cold stage of fevers, varicose veins, asthma, and digestive problems such as dyspepsia, colic and flatulence. * It can be used for laryngitis as a gargle. * Noted as being important as a gastrointestinal detoxicant. * It is also used as a food preservative in the tropics.
- External use
* When applied topically to the skin, the capsaicin causes a sensation of pain and warmth, which can cause extended reversible insensitivity of the skin, which is useful in treating various forms of topical pain such as arthritis, lumbago and spasms. * Used externally for sprains, itching, arthritis, unbroken chilblains, neuralgia, and pleurisy.
Goldenseal Root Uses: Goldenseal is a recommended treatment for a wide variety of ailments, including hemorrhoids, nasal congestion, mouth sores, externals wounds and sores, acne, ringworm (2), eczema, pruritis, otorrhea, tinnitus, conjunctivitis, and congestion/inflammation of the inner ear (17). Goldenseal is also a major ingredient in several over the counter medicines, including eardrops, feminine cleansing products, cold/flu remedies, allergy relief products, and laxatives (17). This species has also been used as a vasodiolator, a depressant of the central nervous system, a pesticide, and a sedative (17)
Parts Used: Root/rhizome, leaves, and stems
Preparations: For sore throat, add one teaspoon of root powder to a glass of water, and enjoy two, or three times per day.
Constituents: Several medicinally active constituents have been isolated from the roots and leaves of Goldenseal. The alkaloids hydrastine (2-4%), berbine (2-3%), and canadine are by far the most active. Hydrastine has been found to lower blood pressure, stimulate involuntary muscles, and kill bacteria (2). Hydrastine and berbine are also notorious for having antiseptic (15), antimicrobial, and antibiotic properties, for which Goldenseal is hailed (17). Studies have proven that berbine has a drastic effect on bacterial cells. According to Sun, Courtney, and Beachy (1988) berbine prevented Streptococccus bacteria from adhering to host cells by interfering with the compounds used for adhesion, and ultimately prevented bacterial infection in those cells (16). Other less active constituents include albumin, starchs, and small amounts of volatile oils (9).
Actions: Antiseptic, hemostatic, diuretic, laxative, tonic (2), antitussive,antiuterotic, antivaginitic, bactericide, antimotile, antisecretory (17), antimicrobial, and antibiotic (16).
Lemon
Active Components - Flavonoids: hesperidoside, limocitrin in the pericarp of the Spanish lemons.
- Acids: Ascorbic (Vitamin C ), citric ; caffeic ( fruit )
- Essential oil : rich in isopulegol, alpha-bergamotene, alpha- pinene, alpha- terpinene, alpha- thujene, beta- bisolobene, beta- bergamotene, beta- phelandrene, citral, limonene and sabinene, ( in the fruit , specially in lemons from California)
- Caffeine ( leaves)
- Pectin
- Minerals: patois and calcium.
Medicinal properties
Internal use:
Digestive tract : With intestines too much prone to defecation, it is very useful to stop diarrhea. It has got anti-ulceric properties offered by beta- bisolobene and it also eliminatesgastric acidity. Very suitable for hepatic insufficiency, by stimulating the liver ( Drink lemon juice at will) ( With digestive disorders an infusion can be prepared with the maceration of lemon rind in alcohol 80 %. Take about 5 gr. a day)
Antiescorbutic and vitaminic: Very rich in vitamin C, reason why it's got fantastic antiescorbutic properties, with a high content in potassium and calcium. Its potential to regenerate white corpuscles, makes it very desirable to strengthen body defences, preventing many diseases to appear.
Antimigraine: By constraining the pericraneal blood vessels, caffeine, besides being a stimulant, relieves headache, resulting specially interesting with migraine. Caffeine is a component which appears in this plant with a high proportion and can also be found in the greatest proportion in tea and other plants as cocoa ( Theobroma cacao L ), cola ( Cola acuminata ), and coffee ( Coffea arabica L.) and in the flowers of some citrics , such as the orange (Citrus sinensis (L.) OSBECK ) .
Depurative: Ascorbic-acid and lemonene confer it depurative properties, so that it is an excellent remedy against rheumatism, arthrosis, arthritis, gout, cholesterol, arteriosclerosis and uric acid. To combat these diseases it is very useful the lemon diet which consists in drinking the juice of a lemon diluted in water. Increase progressively the dose by adding a daily lemon till reaching 11 or 12. Revers the process till one daily lemon.
Respiratory tract: In respiratory affections , the essential oil components confer it antibacterial and expectorant properties, very useful to heal colds. Alpha- pinene is an anti-influenza component so that it is very adequate to drink lemon juice when having this disease. It is also very useful to appease thirst and remove fever.
Circulatory system:Besides being a good cardiac tonic, it helps in blood circulation, prevents cholesterol, decreaseshypertension and combats arteriosclerosis. It also stimulates the formation of red corpuscles, being very fitting in amen.
Diuretic: Because the stimulation power of caffeine and the ascorbic acid, it can be used as a diuretic in obesity treatment, by increasing micturition which will get rid of undesirable water. ( Drink lemon juice at will )
Anticancerigenous: The main components of essential oil, previously possess anticancerigenous and antitumoral properties, preventing the formation of cancerous cells and helping the body not to develop metastasis once the disease has appeared. Lemon juice has been recognised as a good antioxidant and alkalinising , so it contributes to reestablish cell equilibrium.
External use:
Halitosis, gingintivitis and caries: Because of its bactericide properties it is very useful to eliminate bad breath and protect the mouth against infections, produced by inflammation of gums. ( gargles with the lemon juice)
Skin and nails.: Lemon juice is very suitable to fight skin disorders, being one of the best astringents. A couple of daily applications on the skin help it to get rid of spots, shinbones, scabs In the same way alpha- terpineol and ascorbic acid give this fruit vulnerary properties, very useful in healing wounds or scars, even insect stings ( Use the juice or the essence diluted in water )
A good way of regenerating the nail, making them stronger, is by means of nail baths in lemon juice for some minutes every day in the morning and before going to bed.
Tonsillitis and otitis: Before the appearance of anginas or sore throat, it can be useful to carry out gargles with the juice. In a same way, we can use the lemon juice applied with a soaked cotton inside the hearing when we feel pain in this area.
Rheumatism: To alleviate the articular pains taken place because of the rheumatic illnesses frictions with the essential oil in the affected areas can be carried out
Any more I need to list? I'm not selling anything. Just how exactly do I benefit from freely providing this information I have studied and learned from experience, living in my shack in the woods? I'm just trying to help a person who asked a simple question.
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Re: Recommend Me a Body Cleansing Herbal System [Re: zenmunk]
#6004956 - 08/28/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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ChickenPotPie said: The bad food and toxins build up in us like layers of glue, and it's a long process to liquidize a layer, strip it out to get to the next one, liquidize that layer, strip it out, on to the next one......
Can anyone tell me exactly what those toxins are suppose to be?
a scam to scare you into purchasing a 'cleansing' product, people have lived for thousands of years and to ages over 100 without these cleansings, my great grandmother lived to 93, she dipped snuff, ate pork for breakfast and lunch, had the grease of the bacon on top of a biscuit (gravy without milk and flour) and did so since she was in her twenties, she never had a cleansing treatment, her arteries werent turned to iron and her cholesterol was within a normal range
want to live a healthy lifestyle? eat what you want but avoid processed foods like fast food, microwave shit and anything with hydrogenated oils, cook for yourself using fresh ingredients, real butter and even lard
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