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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: Poid]
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The Vatican itself now accepts the Earth to be 4.5 billion years old. I don't know if your a Roman Catholic. They're theory's on creation are nowhere near as asinine as they were 100 years ago.

"The Church has deferred to scientists on matters such as the age of the earth and the authenticity of the fossil record. Papal pronouncements, along with commentaries by cardinals, have accepted the findings of scientists on the gradual appearance of life. In fact, the International Theological Commission in a July 2004 statement endorsed by Cardinal Ratzinger, then president of the Commission and head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, now Pope Benedict XVI, includes this paragraph:

   
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According to the widely accepted scientific account, the universe erupted 15 billion years ago in an explosion called the 'Big Bang' and has been expanding and cooling ever since. Later there gradually emerged the conditions necessary for the formation of atoms, still later the condensation of galaxies and stars, and about 10 billion years later the formation of planets. In our own solar system and on earth (formed about 4.5 billion years ago), the conditions have been favorable to the emergence of life. While there is little consensus among scientists about how the origin of this first microscopic life is to be explained, there is general agreement among them that the first organism dwelt on this planet about 3.5–4 billion years ago. Since it has been demonstrated that all living organisms on earth are genetically related, it is virtually certain that all living organisms have descended from this first organism. Converging evidence from many studies in the physical and biological sciences furnishes mounting support for some theory of evolution to account for the development and diversification of life on earth, while controversy continues over the pace and mechanisms of "evolution.[5]



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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: abf5000]
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abf5000 said:
If you have watched the video I posted, you will see some famous Atheists who were very scared on their deathbed.



DMT is a helluva drug...

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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: abf5000]
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To disprove Christianity, you would have to prove abiogenesis or spontaneous generation definitely occurred. Evolution, an old earth, and the big bang theory are still compatible with Christianity. I just wanted to say that one more time.

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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: JonnyBtreed]
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JonnyBtreed said:
abf5000 said:
If you have watched the video I posted, you will see some famous Atheists who were very scared on their deathbed.



DMT is a helluva drug...



its all engrained in humanity since we're born. believe in god.

so normally when one is about to die they look for god.


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Nature is my church and walking through it is gospel. It tells no lies and reveals all to those who look, and listen, closely.
-Karode

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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: ferrel_human]
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ferrel_human said:
hell doesnt even exist in the bible. why would it exist for real? :aweshift:


http://www.eternalhell.net/biblequotesonhell.htm
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These are the words of Jesus Christ himself

5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell.

5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell. 

[NOTE: Jesus was not saying we should start literally cutting body parts off when they lead us to sin (to save us from hell), otherwise we would have to remove our brain for all the impure thoughts that come from there!  Jesus was simply saying that hell is so terrible that if you could avoid going there by cutting off your hand or foot or plucking out your eye, then you should remove the offending part.  However we cannot avoid hell by removing a hand etc because sin originates in the heart.  Jesus said in Matthew 5:19 "For out of the heart come forth evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, sexual sins, thefts, false testimony, and blasphemies."]

10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

11:23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.

16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast [it] from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

Mat 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?




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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: abf5000]
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abf5000 said:
To disprove Christianity...


One can't completely disprove Christianity, because it rests on the unfalsifiable theory that God exists..unfalsifiable theories are not even worth entertaining.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: abf5000]
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abf5000 said:
To disprove Christianity, you would have to prove abiogenesis or spontaneous generation definitely occurred. Evolution, an old earth, and the big bang theory are still compatible with Christianity. I just wanted to say that one more time.



I think that to disprove Christianity one needs only find one part of the bible that is not true or correct.  Easy.

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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
ferrel_human said:
hell doesnt even exist in the bible. why would it exist for real? :aweshift:


http://www.eternalhell.net/biblequotesonhell.htm
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These are the words of Jesus Christ himself

5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell.

5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell. 

[NOTE: Jesus was not saying we should start literally cutting body parts off when they lead us to sin (to save us from hell), otherwise we would have to remove our brain for all the impure thoughts that come from there!  Jesus was simply saying that hell is so terrible that if you could avoid going there by cutting off your hand or foot or plucking out your eye, then you should remove the offending part.  However we cannot avoid hell by removing a hand etc because sin originates in the heart.  Jesus said in Matthew 5:19 "For out of the heart come forth evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, sexual sins, thefts, false testimony, and blasphemies."]

10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

11:23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.

16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast [it] from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

Mat 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?





that was added in.

i don't believe it.

anywho, The OP has opended up a can of worms on this. :stirthepot:


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Nature is my church and walking through it is gospel. It tells no lies and reveals all to those who look, and listen, closely.
-Karode

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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: ferrel_human]
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ferrel_human said:
hell doesnt even exist in the bible. why would it exist for real? :aweshift:




An eternal fiery Hell doesn't exist according to the Bible? Would you care to back up your claim?

Sorry, I meant to disprove God or a creator's existence(Not Christianity), you have to prove abiogenesis or spontaneous generation. Yes, I do believe in an old earth by the way, I was joking about the young earth theory.

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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: ferrel_human]
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I agree. It was added in the dark ages while church attendance was waning. Most of the things Jesus said were left out of the bible because it correlated too well with the Hindu and Buddhist faiths.

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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: abf5000]
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abf5000 said:
ferrel_human said:
hell doesnt even exist in the bible. why would it exist for real? :aweshift:



An eternal fiery Hell doesn't exist according to the Bible? Would you care to back up your claim?




not really. so i wont.

okay you got me. i don't know anything about the bible and i dont really care for either side.

EDIT- :shrug:


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Nature is my church and walking through it is gospel. It tells no lies and reveals all to those who look, and listen, closely.
-Karode

Edited by ferrel_human (08/15/11 06:12 PM)

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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: abf5000]
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You're talking as if failure to disprove Christianity is an affirmation of it's existence...it's really not.

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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: FocusHawaii]
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all the different religions have the same basic plot in their books. the son comes. dies for his people. and they all lived happily ever after.

hey man i saw the zeitgeist. :werd:


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Nature is my church and walking through it is gospel. It tells no lies and reveals all to those who look, and listen, closely.
-Karode

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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: abf5000]
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abf5000 said:
Sorry, I meant to disprove God...


The God theory is unfalsifiable, it can't be disproven.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: abf5000]
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abf5000 said:


Voltaire: " I am abandoned by God and man...I shall go to hell."

Sir Thomas Scott, chancellor of England: ''Until this moment, I thought there was neither God nor hell....now I know and feel that there are both, and I am doomed to perdition by the just judgment of the almighty..."

Thomas Carlyle: "I am as good as without hope, a sad old man gazing into the final chasm."

Are you scared yet Atheists? Do you want to end up like these men? You still have time to accept Jesus and repent of your sins. You still have time to deny the evolution hoax and accept the truth of the earth being 6,000 years old. There is no proof of an old earth(Radiocarbon dating is inaccurate and flawed) Evolution is impossible, look at how complex the universe is, it was designed. Evolution is a lie, and Charles Darwin recanted his beliefs on evolution on his deathbed, even he knew it. What if you're wrong and God,Heaven,and Hell exist? You're finished then. It's better to play it safe. You don't want to go to Hell, do you? You might as well hedge your bets.



If the god in the bible was really god I would side with Lucifer. God wouldn't even have to kick me out, I would go willingly. That dude is a fucking lunatic.


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~The Cultivators Motherload~

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: Kada]
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here's a good question.

cristians: why aren't you afraid of the various "hells" of any other religion?


what if you're wrong and go the the muslum hell or what have you?

or any other religion fearing anyother religion's hell





it's all the same dizzle, dawg.:snoop:


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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: Salomon]
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Your 20? Why the fuck haven't you hit your rebellious streak yet :strokebeard: Just because my parents tried to teach my certain things doesnt mean i follow through with them.


Im sorry your scared bro, i truly am, and truth be told im scared as well. but im not gonna let it lock me inside my head or stop me from how i want to live anymore.



Just comes with age i guess. And even if a few atheists are scared on their deathbed this doesnt mean shit. If anything it meant they wouldnt stand by their words when faced with the inevitable.

Read about Carl Sagan. Dude went out standing by his beliefs and convictions and for that i respect him :shrug: I hope im as brave as well


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Hippies and Liberals love Pope Francis, so why dont I quote him for you guys. "There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church" :morningtoke:

Edited by Almond Flour (08/15/11 06:49 PM)

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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: Almond Flour]
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Guys, he made the exact same thread 20 days ago. :lolwut: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=14825365&fpart=1


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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
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This one is better.


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Re: Atheists:Aren't you scared that Hell might exist? What if you're wrong? [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
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ROFL_my_ WAFFLE said:
Guys, he made the exact same thread 20 days ago. :lolwut: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=14825365&fpart=1



i fucking called it on the first page. :kingcrankey:



:feelslockedman:


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