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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: The Vapor]
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The Vapor said:
DeadHearts said:
Newlord said:
That's why Marines are the best. Taking care of illegal gang-banging scum is a good thing.



:trolldance:


Yeah, and he isn't really even doing a good job of it.



No sir. Not at all. But I must admit. Seeing him able to post this bullshit over
and over is starting to get to me :shrug:

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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
confirmation the system was hacked, where's the incriminating emails because
you link says nothing about marines hunting illegals



Exactly, there is no confirmation about "Racist Marines killing poor illegal immigrant victims" because it's bullshit.


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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said:
The Vapor said:
DeadHearts said:
Newlord said:
That's why Marines are the best. Taking care of illegal gang-banging scum is a good thing.



:trolldance:


Yeah, and he isn't really even doing a good job of it.



No sir. Not at all. But I must admit. Seeing him able to post this bullshit over
and over is starting to get to me :shrug:


Yeah, it really fucks with the quality of some threads.


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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: The Vapor]
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The Vapor said:
DeadHearts said:
Newlord said:
That's why Marines are the best. Taking care of illegal gang-banging scum is a good thing.



:trolldance:


Yeah, and he isn't really even doing a good job of it.



why not discuss the topic and not the poster, it's not hard to put him on
ignore so you cant see his posts and wont be so easily distracted


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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said:
A random lie you pulled out of your ass??

Its more like 60,000. Does that make you feel any better?


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18765.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/16/iraq.iraqtimeline

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/us-media-ignores-estimate_b_60396.html


No, a random lie that lefties pulled out of their hat.


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Edited by Newlord (06/24/11 06:32 PM)

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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
The Vapor said:
DeadHearts said:
Newlord said:
That's why Marines are the best. Taking care of illegal gang-banging scum is a good thing.



:trolldance:


Yeah, and he isn't really even doing a good job of it.



why not discuss the topic and not the poster, it's not hard to put him on
ignore so you cant see his posts and wont be so easily distracted



You and I both have had a small conversation about how we do not like to put anyone
on ignore. The people I have on ignore are ignoring me.

Why is this guy able to post troll post after post after post ruining threads
in the process. Thats all Ill say.

On topic is that I cannot fin any info that stes that these "police" have killed
anyone. Tho I am sure they have. The group also said that they will continue to release
information on the matter.

Maybe the person that wrote this blog or whatever has a little inside info. Or maybe
not :shrug:

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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said:
Maybe the person that wrote this blog or whatever has a little inside info. Or maybe
not :shrug:



Credible journalism isn't about making extravagant claims with outrageous headlines, then withholding information when evidence is demanded.


This is called bullshit/sensationalism.


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Edited by Newlord (06/24/11 06:38 PM)

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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: Newlord]
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Newlord said:
DeadHearts said:
Maybe the person that wrote this blog or whatever has a little inside info. Or maybe
not :shrug:



Credible journalism isn't about making extravagant claims with outrageous headlines, then withholding information when evidence is demanded.


This is called bullshit/sensationalism.



I didnt say I agree with it did I?

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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said:
I didnt say I agree with it did I?


No, you didn't.

I do find it amusing that you said you are ashamed of your country because of a bullshit article, though.




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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: Newlord] * 1
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if you want to see the documents you probably have to download the torrent file

some of the informatioin is discussed http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/breaking-lulzsec-lea.html

LulzSec announced Thursday evening the publication at Pirate Bay of a trove of leaked material from Arizona law enforcement agencies. Arizona's Department of Public Safety confirmed shortly thereafter that it was hacked.

In the press release included with the dump, a LulzSec affiliate outlines a more activist agenda than is usually associated with the group.

With more than 700 bulletins, email archives, images and other files, the 440MB package will keep readers busy for days. A few excerpts from the most obviously newsworthy documents follow.


There are countless mundane documents covering hours worked, officers' personal information and other stuff of minimal journalistic interest. But the bulletins often offer fascinating stories of law enforcement encounters, such as this one with off-duty Marines patrolling the U.S.-Mexico border with assault weapons.

    "In other incidents reported in October, U.S. Border Patrol agents encountered two subjects who claimed to be members of the Border Watch Group the Blue Lights based on the Caballo Loco Ranch. The subjects, armed with pistols and at least one M4 rifle, were dressed in full desert camouflage uniforms, similar to those of the United States military. They stated they were not members of the Minutemen, but paid contract employees who "get the job done" and "were not just volunteers". They possessed valid United States Marine Corps identification cards."




you see, it's a quote from one of the official bulletins, you know part of the LEAKED INFORMATION

why or how could anyone pull all of this out of their ass?

why do you demand proof when they are obviously leaked official documents?

care to show any proof that any of the information isn't credible?


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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: Newlord]
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Newlord said:
DeadHearts said:
I didnt say I agree with it did I?


No, you didn't.

I do find it amusing that you said you are ashamed of your country because of a bullshit article, though.






I didnt say it was because of this "bullshit article" did I?

Stop trying to turn shit around on me for no fucking reason.

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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: dynomite]
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If you do download the torrent take note of this one comment.

Quote:
****NOTE**** One of the files contained in this torrent tried accessing the interent. Thankfully I keep a close watch on everything on my system that tries accessing the internet. The file is 2009007981Ayon397.4lbs.exe


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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said:
You and I both have had a small conversation about how we do not like to put anyone
on ignore. The people I have on ignore are ignoring me.


which means you put people on ignore but the great part is, you dont have
to ignore him you can always just not respond to his posts, if he's a
troll he's waiting for that response, if he's not, he'll sit at home and
cry for weeks because no one talks to him... it's easy as pie to make him cry

so do it

Quote:
Why is this guy able to post troll post after post after post ruining threads
in the process. Thats all Ill say.


just because his opinoins dont mesh with your doesnt automatically make
him a troll, in fact everyone that calls him a troll is acting more
trollish than he is because at least he was expressing his opinion of the
topic,  while others simply call him a troll

Quote:
On topic is that I cannot fin any info that stes that these "police" have killed
anyone. Tho I am sure they have. The group also said that they will continue to release
information on the matter.

Maybe the person that wrote this blog or whatever has a little inside info. Or maybe
not :shrug:


or maybe it's a blog with some jackass making shit up to outrage the human
rights activists, maybe I should post a comment on my own feeling "if the
marines are policing the borders and killing illegals, maybe it'll be a
deterrent from others entering the country, then maybe we can finally cut
the aid to mexico that's been increasing the violence on the border from
the drug gangs... I say send more marines, they're disposable, shit, let's just invade mexico and steal their drugs, gold and oil"


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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
I say send more marines, they're disposable, shit, let's just invade mexico and steal their drugs, gold and oil"


:awedisgust:


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"It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied.
Better to be Socrates dissatisfied then a fool satisfied.
And if the fool or the pig are of different opinion, it is because they only know their side of the question."
John Stuart Mill

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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: dynomite]
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dynomite said:
care to show any proof that any of the information isn't credible?


burden of proof doesnt fall upon myself and if these people had viewed these
emails why didnt they simply post them in their site?

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14643511
5) When you realize your proof of a given conspiracy is thin and laughably flimsy you must then turn the tables on your adversary and demand they prove a negative by saying, "Okay, well then prove my theory ISN'T true!"


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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: sjfrockerdude] * 1
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sjfrockerdude said:
Prisoner#1 said:
I say send more marines, they're disposable, shit, let's just invade mexico and steal their drugs, gold and oil"


:awedisgust:



free drugs, gold and oil mang!


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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: Newlord] * 1
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Newlord said:
DeadHearts said:
A random lie you pulled out of your ass??

Its more like 60,000. Does that make you feel any better?


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18765.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/16/iraq.iraqtimeline

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/us-media-ignores-estimate_b_60396.html


No, a random lie that lefties pulled out of their hat.


There are propagandists on both sides. Sullying the facts isn't a leftist trait.

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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: Prisoner#1]
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:lolsy:



Well that was a good laugh.


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"It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied.
Better to be Socrates dissatisfied then a fool satisfied.
And if the fool or the pig are of different opinion, it is because they only know their side of the question."
John Stuart Mill

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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: Newlord]
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Newlord said:
DeadHearts said:
A random lie you pulled out of your ass??

Its more like 60,000. Does that make you feel any better?


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18765.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/16/iraq.iraqtimeline

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/us-media-ignores-estimate_b_60396.html


No, a random lie that lefties pulled out of their hat.


Because Alan Greenspan is a real leftie.  I've held the belief that over a million Iraqi people (I count people fighting an illegal occupation as civilians/patriots but I know you all would disagree) for a couple years now, and the best part about that argument is no one really knows (or gives two fucks) so go ahead and try to prove to me I'm wrong.

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Re: LulzSec hacks Arizona gov't emails, reveals US Marines paid to hunt and kill immigrants [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
dynomite said:
care to show any proof that any of the information isn't credible?


burden of proof doesnt fall upon myself and if these people had viewed these
emails why didnt they simply post them in their site?

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14643511
5) When you realize your proof of a given conspiracy is thin and laughably flimsy you must then turn the tables on your adversary and demand they prove a negative by saying, "Okay, well then prove my theory ISN'T true!"


how are official documents considered laughably flimsy proof?

where's the conspiracy theory?


Quote:
or maybe it's a blog with some jackass making shit up to outrage the human
rights activists,


do you know anything about lulzsec?  they're hardly a blog

can you show one instance where lulzsec has been dis-credited?  it should be pretty easy with all the media attention their getting


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