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Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial"
#14469115 - 05/17/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've already long suspected that Katy Perry had been influenced by psychedelics. "California Girls" has some suggestive lyrics and visuals, and "Teenage Dream" captures, in one particular way, the feeling of pure love of the psychedelic experience and applies it to teenage romance.
But now, with her song E.T., I am completely convinced that she has been influenced by some psychedelic. Maybe I am just crazy, but see for yourself:
E.T.
Lyric analysis:
You're so hypnotizing [a common drug-associated metaphor] could you be the devil, could you be an angel [heaven & hell a metaphor very commonly and very specifically associated with psychedelics] your touch magnetizing [denotes something hyper-technological] feels like going floating, leave my body glowing [common sensations from psychedelics]
They say be afraid [what people say about psychedelics] you're not like the others, futuristic lovers [psychedelics are like nothing else, and shrooms, LSD, and DMT have in various instances all been described as futuristic] different DNA, they dont understand you [people don't understand psychedelics...and the acronym "DNA" has three letters and starts with "D", just like DMT.
You're from a whole other/another world a different dimension [Did Katy Perry receive a visit from self-transforming machine elves, lol?] you open my eyes [something people commonly say about psychedelics...and probably not so much about relationships with other people, which is why I think that this song is actually easier to interpret as a song about psychedelics than as a song about some regular relationship] and im ready to go, lead me into the light [obvious psychedelic metaphor]
Kiss me, k-k-kiss me [bidding psychedelics to embrace her] infect me with your love, and fill me with your poison [an uncommon metaphor for love that makes more sense in this case when supposing it refers to drugs compared to when supposing it refers to another person] take me, t-t-take me [she is ready to surrender herself to the psychedelic experience] wanna be your victim, ready for abduction [this metaphor of "abduction" makes me think she might be talking about DMT in particular] boy, you're an alien, your touch so far away its supernatural, extraterrestrial [the psychedelic experience has been described at various times as "supernatural" or "extra-terrestrial."]
You're so super sonic wanna feel your powers, stun me with your lasers [once again, the technological metaphors involving bright lazer-like lights makes me think she might be talking about DMT in particular, although I can't rule out LSD] your kiss is cosmic, every move is magic ["cosmic,"..."magic"...this song almost reads like an unimaginative list of cliches about the psychedelic experience]
You're from a whole other/another world a different dimension you open my eyes and im ready to go, lead me into the light
Kiss me, k-k-kiss me infect me with your love, and fill me with your poison take me, t-t-take me wanna be your victim, ready for abduction boy, you're an alien, your touch so far away its supernatural, extraterrestrial
There is this transcendental, on another level [another metaphor that makes more sense supposing it is referring to psychedelics and not some other person] boy, you're my lucky star i wanna walk on your wave length and be there when you vibrate [more DMT-esque techno-futurism] for you i risk it all [in a sense, one is risking psychological death by venturing into the psychedelic experience.]
Kiss me, k-k-kiss me infect me with your love, and fill me with your poison take me, t-t-take me wanna be your victim, ready for abduction boy, you're an alien, your touch so far away its supernatural, extraterrestrial
Extraterrestrial
Extraterrestrial
Boy, you're an alien, your touch so far away its supernatural, extraterrestrial
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Now, let's consider a counter-hypothesis: that this is just a love song that was written without any familiarity with the psychedelic experience. Like I noted above, while I think many of the metaphors could just as easily be applied to a relationship between people rather than to a relationship with psychedelics, some of the metaphors are somewhat strange for referencing love between two people and only really make any sense in the case that Katy Perry is alluding to the psychedelic experience.
So, have I just completely gone off my rocker, or am I right in pointing out that this is a blatantly obvious thing that hardly anybody in the popular culture has noticed about this enormously popular song because the psychedelic experience is unfortunately so ridiculously foreign to them?
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: Comradez] 1
#14470156 - 05/17/11 09:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What the fuck, no.
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: Jufin]
#14470680 - 05/17/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why not? Please elucidate.
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: Comradez]
#14474091 - 05/18/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT DRUGS
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#14474569 - 05/18/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Of course. That's a trivial point. 98% of pop songs are probably not about drugs. What I'm specifically arguing is, this song is about psychedelics.
Granted, unless you ask the author about the meaning of a piece of music, film, or literature, or unless the author explicitly explains in a preface, there's no way to solve the question of, "What did an author mean or intend by a particular work."
Then in comes the critical technique known as "deconstructionism," which allows for us to talk about the ways in which a work may be coherently interpreted, regardless of the original intentions of the author. This technique is often used in order to investigate the biases, assumptions, and sources of inspiration for the author, of which the author him/herself might not even be aware, so as to be able to say something about the author's social/cultural context.
At the very least, then, we could say that, regardless of whether Katy Perry was inspired by DMT, her song "E.T." can be coherently interpreted as being a metaphor for the DMT experience.
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: Comradez]
#14474699 - 05/18/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Comradez said: Of course. That's a trivial point. 98% of pop songs are probably not about drugs. What I'm specifically arguing is, this song is about psychedelics.
Granted, unless you ask the author about the meaning of a piece of music, film, or literature, or unless the author explicitly explains in a preface, there's no way to solve the question of, "What did an author mean or intend by a particular work."
Then in comes the critical technique known as "deconstructionism," which allows for us to talk about the ways in which a work may be coherently interpreted, regardless of the original intentions of the author. This technique is often used in order to investigate the biases, assumptions, and sources of inspiration for the author, of which the author him/herself might not even be aware, so as to be able to say something about the author's social/cultural context.
At the very least, then, we could say that, regardless of whether Katy Perry was inspired by DMT, her song "E.T." can be coherently interpreted as being a metaphor for the DMT experience.
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#14474884 - 05/18/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe the person who wrote the lyrics has done DMT, but most pop musicians don't write their own music.
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: eqt146]
#14475677 - 05/18/11 09:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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eqt146 said: Maybe the person who wrote the lyrics has done DMT, but most pop musicians don't write their own music.
Ah, interesting! Good to know!
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#14476510 - 05/19/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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'could you be the devil, could you be an angel [heaven & hell a metaphor very commonly and very specifically associated with psychedelics]' I can't see how that is a metaphor very commonly associated with psychs
'and im ready to go, lead me into the light [obvious psychedelic metaphor]' Could mean many things.
Kiss me, k-k-kiss me [bidding psychedelics to embrace her] Now you're just clutching at straws.
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: Comradez]
#14476637 - 05/19/11 02:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't think it's that far of a stretch........ Watch this... her/her dad's connection with Timothy Leary After watching this, it's hard for me to imagine she's hasn't at least dabbled in psychedelics.... if not very interested in them. She's pretty hip and in the know for a pop star. And you know how artists like to play with symbolism. Not all pop stars have other people write their lyrics. Music, yeah. Hardly any pop artist writes their own music, but lyrics are another story.
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: Shroomism]
#14478630 - 05/19/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't think you can make that connection either...
My dad worked in the mortgage industry. I don't have a mortgage, never have.
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#14480010 - 05/19/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't know how many of you here have read any of Michael Hoffman's egodeath.com website, but that's partly where I'm coming from. I found some of what he says about mystic state allusions in rock music convincing, and particularly the argument that it is naive to hold the a priori assumption that rock musicians from the '70s didn't routinely use acid.
Consider this testimony from motorhead frontman Lemmy, for example: http://youtu.be/fh-pAykfQ-8
Now, I know that today is a different time, but I don't consider it so far-fetched to think that some rock and pop musicians have taken psychedelics. I'd imagine there'd be at least a similar proportion among that pool as among the general population, and probably a lot larger of a proportion. Consider: *They have the money. *I'm sure they don't have trouble obtaining the connections. *If they are true artists who take their work seriously (and aren't just some bimbo out of the Disney corporate meatgrinder), they have the motive. *The real artists are probably of above-average intelligence, and so probably don't accept government propaganda with such naive credulity.
So...Britney Spears? I'm positive that dumb bitch has never done acid. I'd even doubt it about Lady Gaga, despite all of her superficial "out there" stuff that she tries to do. It seems to me like she's trying to hard to be shocking, and there's nothing behind it other than the desire to grab attention. But Katy Perry....
Consider also that Katy Perry is married to Russell Brand. Regardless of whether you think his stand-up is funny, you have to admit that he kind of fits the acid stereotype: really skinny, eccentric.
Regardless of all of these reasons for why Katy Perry might have done psychedelics, though, the main point is that the song E.T. could very easily (most easily?) be interpreted as being about DMT or some other psychedelic...which makes me chuckle every time I walk past a department store or a bar naively playing it just to be hip.
I think that little things like this in the culture plant seeds in our minds that contribute little by little to pushing us in certain directions--in this case, towards psychedelics.
For example, I used to play Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri a lot. Looking bad at it now, I can see how the game's whole philosophy of "transcendence" with the sentient planet contributed in small part to my eventual interest in "transcendent" states of mind, but at the time I would have had no idea that this is where my simple playing of this silly computer game was pushing me...just as I think people are being ever-so-slightly nudged towards psychedelics by listening to this song by Katy Perry, even though they might not even consciously realize it at this point.
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: Comradez]
#14480043 - 05/19/11 06:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Comradez said: I don't know how many of you here have read any of Michael Hoffman's egodeath.com website, but that's partly where I'm coming from. I found some of what he says about mystic state allusions in rock music convincing, and particularly the argument that it is naive to hold the a priori assumption that rock musicians from the '70s didn't routinely use acid.
Consider this testimony from motorhead frontman Lemmy, for example: http://youtu.be/fh-pAykfQ-8
Now, I know that today is a different time, but I don't consider it so far-fetched to think that some rock and pop musicians have taken psychedelics. I'd imagine there'd be at least a similar proportion among that pool as among the general population, and probably a lot larger of a proportion. Consider: *They have the money. *I'm sure they don't have trouble obtaining the connections. *If they are true artists who take their work seriously (and aren't just some bimbo out of the Disney corporate meatgrinder), they have the motive. *The real artists are probably of above-average intelligence, and so probably don't accept government propaganda with such naive credulity.
So...Britney Spears? I'm positive that dumb bitch has never done acid. I'd even doubt it about Lady Gaga, despite all of her superficial "out there" stuff that she tries to do. It seems to me like she's trying to hard to be shocking, and there's nothing behind it other than the desire to grab attention. But Katy Perry....
Consider also that Katy Perry is married to Russell Brand. Regardless of whether you think his stand-up is funny, you have to admit that he kind of fits the acid stereotype: really skinny, eccentric.
Regardless of all of these reasons for why Katy Perry might have done psychedelics, though, the main point is that the song E.T. could very easily (most easily?) be interpreted as being about DMT or some other psychedelic...which makes me chuckle every time I walk past a department store or a bar naively playing it just to be hip.
I think that little things like this in the culture plant seeds in our minds that contribute little by little to pushing us in certain directions--in this case, towards psychedelics.
For example, I used to play Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri a lot. Looking bad at it now, I can see how the game's whole philosophy of "transcendence" with the sentient planet contributed in small part to my eventual interest in "transcendent" states of mind, but at the time I would have had no idea that this is where my simple playing of this silly computer game was pushing me...just as I think people are being ever-so-slightly nudged towards psychedelics by listening to this song by Katy Perry, even though they might not even consciously realize it at this point.
Man, I lost many many hours of my life to Alpha Centauri.
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#14480514 - 05/19/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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She admits to taking mushrooms at a daft punk concert when she was younger. Unfortunately she did not enjoy the experience and states she had to take a shower with her clothes on it was that bad....read it from a Rolling Stones article.
Anyhow I highly doubt she wrote the lyrics to this song or any of her songs for that matter. In any event I do not see the correlation.
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#14480886 - 05/19/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Penguarky Tunguin said:
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Comradez said: I don't know how many of you here have read any of Michael Hoffman's egodeath.com website, but that's partly where I'm coming from. I found some of what he says about mystic state allusions in rock music convincing, and particularly the argument that it is naive to hold the a priori assumption that rock musicians from the '70s didn't routinely use acid.
Consider this testimony from motorhead frontman Lemmy, for example: http://youtu.be/fh-pAykfQ-8
Now, I know that today is a different time, but I don't consider it so far-fetched to think that some rock and pop musicians have taken psychedelics. I'd imagine there'd be at least a similar proportion among that pool as among the general population, and probably a lot larger of a proportion. Consider: *They have the money. *I'm sure they don't have trouble obtaining the connections. *If they are true artists who take their work seriously (and aren't just some bimbo out of the Disney corporate meatgrinder), they have the motive. *The real artists are probably of above-average intelligence, and so probably don't accept government propaganda with such naive credulity.
So...Britney Spears? I'm positive that dumb bitch has never done acid. I'd even doubt it about Lady Gaga, despite all of her superficial "out there" stuff that she tries to do. It seems to me like she's trying to hard to be shocking, and there's nothing behind it other than the desire to grab attention. But Katy Perry....
Consider also that Katy Perry is married to Russell Brand. Regardless of whether you think his stand-up is funny, you have to admit that he kind of fits the acid stereotype: really skinny, eccentric.
Regardless of all of these reasons for why Katy Perry might have done psychedelics, though, the main point is that the song E.T. could very easily (most easily?) be interpreted as being about DMT or some other psychedelic...which makes me chuckle every time I walk past a department store or a bar naively playing it just to be hip.
I think that little things like this in the culture plant seeds in our minds that contribute little by little to pushing us in certain directions--in this case, towards psychedelics.
For example, I used to play Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri a lot. Looking bad at it now, I can see how the game's whole philosophy of "transcendence" with the sentient planet contributed in small part to my eventual interest in "transcendent" states of mind, but at the time I would have had no idea that this is where my simple playing of this silly computer game was pushing me...just as I think people are being ever-so-slightly nudged towards psychedelics by listening to this song by Katy Perry, even though they might not even consciously realize it at this point.
Man, I lost many many hours of my life to Alpha Centauri. 
Alpha Centauri was bad, but Civ4 was my true mephedrone from about 2007 to 2010. Seriously, when I first tried adderall, I was like, "WTF, this is just like playing Civ4!"
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: Comradez]
#14484646 - 05/20/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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as far as op original question no she didnt write any of those song on that album not one,
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Re: Has Katy Perry done DMT??? Lyric analysis of "Extraterrestrial" [Re: ant61]
#14488492 - 05/21/11 06:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ant61 said: as far as op original question no she didnt write any of those song on that album not one,
Ah, well then, I've just lost a lot of respect for her as an artist. If the only thing that she contributed to the album was her pretty voice...that's much less impressive.
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