CidneyIndole said:

Since you seem to be on a mission to spout your bullshit over here too, I'll join you with some truth.

I’m getting tired of seeing people posting blatant lies about synthetics, that can neither be proven nor disproven.  And all of them seem to quote Huffman.  I think it is time I reveal something. I probably shouldn’t let this out, but I doubt the info will get far from here, and I don’t think it will hurt anyone…

I know someone that has worked with Huffman.  First of all, Huffman is a bit of a stoner. This is where  his interest in this field came from. Of course he has a reason to say that JWH compounds are not for consumption. Was he supposed to say “Sure, I was trying to come up with a viable alternative to weed.”

Huffman has used his own compounds Though my friend said it was mainly for research, and that H prefers the effects of CP compounds.

Also, He was tied to one of the original makers/distributors of spice-type products in the united states. My friend said he was told the actives in this blend were 018, 073, cp 47,497 and two fatty-acid amides that are not common to the RC market.

I have reason to trust this person.
Choke on it.
Check.

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Tchan909 said:

CidneyIndole said:

Since you seem to be on a mission to spout your bullshit over here too, I'll join you with some truth.

I’m getting tired of seeing people posting blatant lies about synthetics, that can neither be proven nor disproven.  And all of them seem to quote Huffman.  I think it is time I reveal something. I probably shouldn’t let this out, but I doubt the info will get far from here, and I don’t think it will hurt anyone…

I know someone that has worked with Huffman.  First of all, Huffman is a bit of a stoner. This is where  his interest in this field came from. Of course he has a reason to say that JWH compounds are not for consumption. Was he supposed to say “Sure, I was trying to come up with a viable alternative to weed.”

Huffman has used his own compounds Though my friend said it was mainly for research, and that H prefers the effects of CP compounds.

Also, He was tied to one of the original makers/distributors of spice-type products in the united states. My friend said he was told the actives in this blend were 018, 073, cp 47,497 and two fatty-acid amides that are not common to the RC market.

I have reason to trust this person.
Choke on it.
Check.

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If true, this is completely awesome.

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CidneyIndole said:

Yep. I asked him about it. He wouldn't say much... he was being kind of weird and cryptic but said it was something like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleamide

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leery11 said:

you guys are exhibiting some stupidity , how do you know the computer monitor you are staring into doesn't cause cancer ? who cares

do you know how stupid the scientific approach to reality is 
scientists would want to label pot as a carcinogen because when you light something on fire the smoke itself seems to contain "carcinogens" ( duh ) , despite THC being  known by science as curing cancer, get it

it really doeson't matter, stop caring about it . if you like to get high get high

god knows coffee causes a tremendous strain on your vital organs and brings you to such acidity that if you don't have anything alkaline you can wind up with bone cancer in your 80s ,

if you're third eye is blind why are you tripping ? you can LOOK and see whether something is toxic,

its not very hard,

science won't help you
a controlled lab experiment might be somewhat useful for us but real life is not a lab ,

i mean really how dumb are you trying to be ?

the basis of all disease is so easy to heal ,
get cancer  oh no

try eating only grapes until it goes away , or put all your faith in chemo and die, its not that hard to be healthy

fast for 14 days , its better than dying, won't have no damn cancer anymore.

some of you are putting faith in a fucking albatross being ridden by an elephant off a canyon.

do you know how fucking stupid the western world is ? all our knowledge  and we have THC a cancer cure illegal and instead of giving people pot we make them die from chemo therapy of course some times it will help them

while the chinese laugh at your stupid science and use pure energy to heal cancer in 2 minutes,

good god , driving in a convertible in california freeways has put mutations into people's lungs , do you really care so much about synthetic pot ?

here is some common sense instead of absurdity :
THC is known to cure cancer and target and kill harmful bodily cells ( and  i agree straight pot is better for you , most likely anyway  )
so why the hell would something that gives you a THC like high , a synthetic CANNABINOID , hurt you 

if anything the JWH's and etc probably have medical therepeutic value when not smoked. and would be a great replacement for the harsh synthetic opiates that tear people's bodies apart, give them withdrawal, hangover, aspirin  ( or acet..... etc poisoning )
pretty lame you have to do a cold water extraction to get stuff out of pills a doctor prescribes you so you can get the soothing high ( for whatever reason we are free to do what we will ) without destroying your kidneys and liver or whatever it is the acet..... etc does to you

these big fancy words make us stupid because they make us lust after being able to bonk people with the bible of scientificity instead of being more humble in our approach to respecting each other without trying to say that because a man wears a white coat he knows what the hell he is talking about

he knows what the heaven the pharmaceutical industry has indoctrinated into his brain over years of being in a basic mediocrity camp, and when he comes out of it he is the last person able to give you the common sense  things that HEAL ALL DISEASE

DIET AND EXERCISE AND RIGHT THINKING

these sorts of minds will freak out and refuse to study chi even when they scientifically angel-strate--, as opposed to demon-straight , and if you aren't aware of what words mean don't use them .... because we are in a culture of mind abuse  and domination through information streams right down to the words INSIDE our words--the validity of this far superior treatment.

make sense ?

i do not want to take sides with synth vs organic except that nature contains poisons and medicines .

and to say that some ancient shaman have found synthetic psychedelic analogues and etc to be just as nice if not better and easier to use than their organic counterparts

maria sabia if that was her name felt this was to be so with synthetic psilocybin and was very glad to have it .

I DO  state that , it seems paramountly true that that which is created from nature, ( the good natural plants and etc ) is far more COMPLETE than that which a man creates in a lab .

when common sense is the policy of a nation then no cynics will ever need to be generated, the sharp critic  has a point , but the policy of pessimism is just as valid but actually no where near so as optimism as we create our future

so dont' let dimwits steal your cognitive resources by implanting definitions and conceptions and systems into your head that equate to you basically being a brick in their wall .

think your own thoughts you know ?
think for yourself, evaluate the truth of things ,

what really needs to be said other than this is that most people seem to give themselves cancer by having a stone cold fear and thinking every day "i really wouldn't want that to happen" while tuning into the smug old guys nodding their heads at new prescriptions made to target the symptoms of lethargy and television addiction ( i.e. eating wrong and not exercising ) as if your entire life you were PILL MALNOURISHED

so go figure
i really don't know a person that has gotten that disease that has not brought it upon themselves through a life time of severe anxiety , total desire to suck authorities dick and be paraded around as a poodle and given certificates of inadequacy to wear like a crown... these people want it , they want to be feeble

feeble in the eyes of the false god in a white coat
its absurd,
they refuse to heal themselves, they are constantly taking pills their whole life for things that they could fix in 4 weeks at most,

i do not know many people that get it, and don't beat it , that have not brought it mentally , but then the karma of disease is something else to ponder

okay , so feel the spirits here trying to usher something in , who knows what,

peace........ _ >

peace and divine love < _ .................... , respect wisdom and truth , who cares what i say anyway , just see if its true or not , it isn't something to be taken personally . .......................

-me who only cares about speaking the truth and doesn't mean to sound crabby about it but the stove is hot so stop touching it, i.e. all the damn fascination with feeling like you are a symptom check list

absurd bullshit, take charge of yourself , yes a drug has power so , we cannot just change matter that quickly i don't think, but you ALSO have power

they say you get a new body every so many months , if you build it to 100 % alkalinity and god forbid ( i.e. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE DO THIS  ) exercise properly with some yoga or fasting or tai chi and this and that , you have tremendous capacity to be a 90 year old with total health and well being, especially if you can stand on your head for 15 minutes .

do you know how much massive detoxification of CRAP happens in 3 minutes of a yoga head stand ?

i do ,
its a lot

or you can say oh no i think something is wrong with me i drink too much dairy and get sinus infections for 20 years  , yet i continue to waste money on antiobiotics

and i get tons of big macs and fast food on the way back from seeing my doctor but that white coat makes me feel like a doggy which heals my deep insecurity about the future from a life time of neagative WHAT IF fear situations imprinted upon my mind from authorities

just come off it already .

we should KNOW about the synthetics, with unbiased researches, i  am betting they have some medical benefits since they are closely related in effect and nature to THC ,




people are so dumb someone says "drugs are bad " they go around preaching the gospel for 40 years without investigating a thing don't let MEMSE go into your head and make you say stupid shit like what if it causes cancer " i am pretty damn sure the computer monitor is already taking care of trying to give you cancer,

everytime someone talks about some BS and you think "what if that happens to me " you create that capacity ,

if you instead say I AM ALWAYS HEALTHY ,  just wait, a few years from now you will be . probably more like a few months

the rest would just be straight up karma, teaching people lessons which i can't fahthom at the moment , maybe you can .

what is worse for you jwh or coffee ? i am pretty sure.. .coffee is ,

do you have any idea how bad it is ?

its not a fresh breath of mountain air ,
and tobacco isn't bad for you its the radioactive fertilizers used to grow it , that binds radiation into your lungs , straight up organic tobacco is something that , seems to be entirely different 

see what do we know ? 

anyway peace and divine love even if i talk harshly divine love is the goal here .

this is some thought food
a long tim ago dr bates realized that eyeglasses sucked, it was like walking with crutches your whole life, so he invented a simple series of eye exercises that brought legally blind people to 20-10 vision

this is the elephant albatross suicide lemming binge fest of american fat homer simpsons retarded obseification

vs , common sense and , maybe the wisdom of ancient cultures .

BOTTOM  LINE WE CAN TAX YOU FOREVER AND TAKE YORU HARD EARNED MONEY FROM YOUR LAZINESS  AND PROFIT FROM YORU DISEASES WHILE NEVER CURING YOU , WHILE HIDING THE REAL CURES THAT YOU COULD DO , BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT YOU ( THE IMAGINARY HOMER ANYWAY ) LAZY AS HELL )
AND SALUTING LIKE A DICK THE WHITE COATS AS IF THEY MEANT SOMETHING

some who wear a badge are good some are dimwitted, some are angels, some who wear a cot know what they are doing some are gonna give you pills the second you walk in cus it makes them money or they are bored

what kind of a person volunteers to destroy themselves ? that is what so many people are doing, constantly , oh well.....

know how dumb my grandma is ? she wont' heal her cancer, she'll do things that don't heal her cancer, and she refuses to get some legal herb when i showed her that thc heals cancer and she agrees that thc heals cancer,

she is so violent in her fear mongering and brain washing from growing up in the older times that she would have you do the most horrible things that cure nothing ,

this satanic worship upsets me is all,

the herb doesn't do people wrong in a tincture form it heals cancer, there are so many ways i could get her healed in a few months if she'd listen to me but i can't make people listen to truth

i'm not joking, its not that hard to cure, i can't believe a person would think JWH would cause cancer , that just does not add up

the chemical is in your body for what 45 minutes ?  do you not understand how easy it is to regenerate ourselves into wellness ?

zero point energy modalities for one thing if ever given to the public are things that are already dissolving tumors, sinus infections, gout ( i healed my dad of gout but he didn't realize it ) ,

zero point energy
way of the future , think about these things,

ancient wisdom is true because its not based in screwing fucking and sometimes raping you in the name of authoritah

the ancients want to help , the industries want money
the industries create the ideas you and i talk to each other with ,

okay ?

anyway world peace !

anyway DO WHAT YOU WANT AND DON'T FRET ABOUT IT is one point
and meat is a carcinogen do you know how much shit , weird chemical growth hormone shit, and fecal matter, brain matter, etc, is in meat
for all the fuck we know "Alzheimers " is mad cow disease, which is worth investigating to see if i am just making that up or not , it might be so , but who knows ? we don't know , but we can figure it out .

HEY GUESS WHAT ALSO, MARIJUANA PREVENTS ALZHIMERS, so do you really think something closely related to marijuana , synthetic in nature , is going to be harmful ? that doesn't really add up to me.

I DO ADVOCATE UNBIASED RESEARCH WITHIN SCIENCE but don't think that it is the only system, it is just a system, all systems can be created , the people that USE the system determine whether it produces amazing results or anything in between, to the extent they are able to be genius in their methodology and assessing

well it doesn't matter, the point is to get rid of some of the wrong views of the world i hope i did that ,

Here is a sentence with proper grammar and punctuation for your patience. Here is another one, using proper capitalization. And now I am making a paragraph.

Its that when you have raw ideas and fast typing, its easier to make them go the way they want to........

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leery11 said:

you guys are exhibiting some stupidity , how do you know the computer monitor you are staring into doesn't cause cancer ? who cares

do you know how stupid the scientific approach to reality is 
scientists would want to label pot as a carcinogen because when you light something on fire the smoke itself seems to contain "carcinogens" ( duh ) , despite THC being  known by science as curing cancer, get it

it really doeson't matter, stop caring about it . if you like to get high get high

god knows coffee causes a tremendous strain on your vital organs and brings you to such acidity that if you don't have anything alkaline you can wind up with bone cancer in your 80s ,

if you're third eye is blind why are you tripping ? you can LOOK and see whether something is toxic,

its not very hard,

science won't help you
a controlled lab experiment might be somewhat useful for us but real life is not a lab ,

i mean really how dumb are you trying to be ?

the basis of all disease is so easy to heal ,
get cancer  oh no

try eating only grapes until it goes away , or put all your faith in chemo and die, its not that hard to be healthy

fast for 14 days , its better than dying, won't have no damn cancer anymore.

some of you are putting faith in a fucking albatross being ridden by an elephant off a canyon.

do you know how fucking stupid the western world is ? all our knowledge  and we have THC a cancer cure illegal and instead of giving people pot we make them die from chemo therapy of course some times it will help them

while the chinese laugh at your stupid science and use pure energy to heal cancer in 2 minutes,

good god , driving in a convertible in california freeways has put mutations into people's lungs , do you really care so much about synthetic pot ?

here is some common sense instead of absurdity :
THC is known to cure cancer and target and kill harmful bodily cells ( and  i agree straight pot is better for you , most likely anyway  )
so why the hell would something that gives you a THC like high , a synthetic CANNABINOID , hurt you 

if anything the JWH's and etc probably have medical therepeutic value when not smoked. and would be a great replacement for the harsh synthetic opiates that tear people's bodies apart, give them withdrawal, hangover, aspirin  ( or acet..... etc poisoning )
pretty lame you have to do a cold water extraction to get stuff out of pills a doctor prescribes you so you can get the soothing high ( for whatever reason we are free to do what we will ) without destroying your kidneys and liver or whatever it is the acet..... etc does to you

these big fancy words make us stupid because they make us lust after being able to bonk people with the bible of scientificity instead of being more humble in our approach to respecting each other without trying to say that because a man wears a white coat he knows what the hell he is talking about

he knows what the heaven the pharmaceutical industry has indoctrinated into his brain over years of being in a basic mediocrity camp, and when he comes out of it he is the last person able to give you the common sense  things that HEAL ALL DISEASE

DIET AND EXERCISE AND RIGHT THINKING

these sorts of minds will freak out and refuse to study chi even when they scientifically angel-strate--, as opposed to demon-straight , and if you aren't aware of what words mean don't use them .... because we are in a culture of mind abuse  and domination through information streams right down to the words INSIDE our words--the validity of this far superior treatment.

make sense ?

i do not want to take sides with synth vs organic except that nature contains poisons and medicines .

and to say that some ancient shaman have found synthetic psychedelic analogues and etc to be just as nice if not better and easier to use than their organic counterparts

maria sabia if that was her name felt this was to be so with synthetic psilocybin and was very glad to have it .

I DO  state that , it seems paramountly true that that which is created from nature, ( the good natural plants and etc ) is far more COMPLETE than that which a man creates in a lab .

when common sense is the policy of a nation then no cynics will ever need to be generated, the sharp critic  has a point , but the policy of pessimism is just as valid but actually no where near so as optimism as we create our future

so dont' let dimwits steal your cognitive resources by implanting definitions and conceptions and systems into your head that equate to you basically being a brick in their wall .

think your own thoughts you know ?
think for yourself, evaluate the truth of things ,

what really needs to be said other than this is that most people seem to give themselves cancer by having a stone cold fear and thinking every day "i really wouldn't want that to happen" while tuning into the smug old guys nodding their heads at new prescriptions made to target the symptoms of lethargy and television addiction ( i.e. eating wrong and not exercising ) as if your entire life you were PILL MALNOURISHED

so go figure
i really don't know a person that has gotten that disease that has not brought it upon themselves through a life time of severe anxiety , total desire to suck authorities dick and be paraded around as a poodle and given certificates of inadequacy to wear like a crown... these people want it , they want to be feeble

feeble in the eyes of the false god in a white coat
its absurd,
they refuse to heal themselves, they are constantly taking pills their whole life for things that they could fix in 4 weeks at most,

i do not know many people that get it, and don't beat it , that have not brought it mentally , but then the karma of disease is something else to ponder

okay , so feel the spirits here trying to usher something in , who knows what,

peace........ _ >

peace and divine love < _ .................... , respect wisdom and truth , who cares what i say anyway , just see if its true or not , it isn't something to be taken personally . .......................

-me who only cares about speaking the truth and doesn't mean to sound crabby about it but the stove is hot so stop touching it, i.e. all the damn fascination with feeling like you are a symptom check list

absurd bullshit, take charge of yourself , yes a drug has power so , we cannot just change matter that quickly i don't think, but you ALSO have power

they say you get a new body every so many months , if you build it to 100 % alkalinity and god forbid ( i.e. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE DO THIS  ) exercise properly with some yoga or fasting or tai chi and this and that , you have tremendous capacity to be a 90 year old with total health and well being, especially if you can stand on your head for 15 minutes .

do you know how much massive detoxification of CRAP happens in 3 minutes of a yoga head stand ?

i do ,
its a lot

or you can say oh no i think something is wrong with me i drink too much dairy and get sinus infections for 20 years  , yet i continue to waste money on antiobiotics

and i get tons of big macs and fast food on the way back from seeing my doctor but that white coat makes me feel like a doggy which heals my deep insecurity about the future from a life time of neagative WHAT IF fear situations imprinted upon my mind from authorities

just come off it already .

we should KNOW about the synthetics, with unbiased researches, i  am betting they have some medical benefits since they are closely related in effect and nature to THC ,




people are so dumb someone says "drugs are bad " they go around preaching the gospel for 40 years without investigating a thing don't let MEMSE go into your head and make you say stupid shit like what if it causes cancer " i am pretty damn sure the computer monitor is already taking care of trying to give you cancer,

everytime someone talks about some BS and you think "what if that happens to me " you create that capacity ,

if you instead say I AM ALWAYS HEALTHY ,  just wait, a few years from now you will be . probably more like a few months

the rest would just be straight up karma, teaching people lessons which i can't fahthom at the moment , maybe you can .

what is worse for you jwh or coffee ? i am pretty sure.. .coffee is ,

do you have any idea how bad it is ?

its not a fresh breath of mountain air ,
and tobacco isn't bad for you its the radioactive fertilizers used to grow it , that binds radiation into your lungs , straight up organic tobacco is something that , seems to be entirely different 

see what do we know ? 

anyway peace and divine love even if i talk harshly divine love is the goal here .

this is some thought food
a long tim ago dr bates realized that eyeglasses sucked, it was like walking with crutches your whole life, so he invented a simple series of eye exercises that brought legally blind people to 20-10 vision

this is the elephant albatross suicide lemming binge fest of american fat homer simpsons retarded obseification

vs , common sense and , maybe the wisdom of ancient cultures .

BOTTOM  LINE WE CAN TAX YOU FOREVER AND TAKE YORU HARD EARNED MONEY FROM YOUR LAZINESS  AND PROFIT FROM YORU DISEASES WHILE NEVER CURING YOU , WHILE HIDING THE REAL CURES THAT YOU COULD DO , BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT YOU ( THE IMAGINARY HOMER ANYWAY ) LAZY AS HELL )
AND SALUTING LIKE A DICK THE WHITE COATS AS IF THEY MEANT SOMETHING

some who wear a badge are good some are dimwitted, some are angels, some who wear a cot know what they are doing some are gonna give you pills the second you walk in cus it makes them money or they are bored

what kind of a person volunteers to destroy themselves ? that is what so many people are doing, constantly , oh well.....

know how dumb my grandma is ? she wont' heal her cancer, she'll do things that don't heal her cancer, and she refuses to get some legal herb when i showed her that thc heals cancer and she agrees that thc heals cancer,

she is so violent in her fear mongering and brain washing from growing up in the older times that she would have you do the most horrible things that cure nothing ,

this satanic worship upsets me is all,

the herb doesn't do people wrong in a tincture form it heals cancer, there are so many ways i could get her healed in a few months if she'd listen to me but i can't make people listen to truth

i'm not joking, its not that hard to cure, i can't believe a person would think JWH would cause cancer , that just does not add up

the chemical is in your body for what 45 minutes ?  do you not understand how easy it is to regenerate ourselves into wellness ?

zero point energy modalities for one thing if ever given to the public are things that are already dissolving tumors, sinus infections, gout ( i healed my dad of gout but he didn't realize it ) ,

zero point energy
way of the future , think about these things,

ancient wisdom is true because its not based in screwing fucking and sometimes raping you in the name of authoritah

the ancients want to help , the industries want money
the industries create the ideas you and i talk to each other with ,

okay ?

anyway world peace !

anyway DO WHAT YOU WANT AND DON'T FRET ABOUT IT is one point
and meat is a carcinogen do you know how much shit , weird chemical growth hormone shit, and fecal matter, brain matter, etc, is in meat
for all the fuck we know "Alzheimers " is mad cow disease, which is worth investigating to see if i am just making that up or not , it might be so , but who knows ? we don't know , but we can figure it out .

HEY GUESS WHAT ALSO, MARIJUANA PREVENTS ALZHIMERS, so do you really think something closely related to marijuana , synthetic in nature , is going to be harmful ? that doesn't really add up to me.

I DO ADVOCATE UNBIASED RESEARCH WITHIN SCIENCE but don't think that it is the only system, it is just a system, all systems can be created , the people that USE the system determine whether it produces amazing results or anything in between, to the extent they are able to be genius in their methodology and assessing

well it doesn't matter, the point is to get rid of some of the wrong views of the world i hope i did that ,

Here is a sentence with proper grammar and punctuation for your patience. Here is another one, using proper capitalization. And now I am making a paragraph.

Its that when you have raw ideas and fast typing, its easier to make them go the way they want to........

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Pedro D. Sanchez said:

lol. put down the adderall.

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