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What's going to come of wikileaks?
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Reading some shit online and it seems this wikileak thing is blowing up.  I wonder if this could lead to something.



World War 3, ufo disclosure, etc.........

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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: skatealex2]
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is there any ufo disclosure on there?

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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: skatealex2] * 1
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Kinda interested in the data-bomb Assange has set in case something happens to him.


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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: skatealex2]
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I've heard they've got a network set up to auto-release a shit ton of documents if shit hits the fan for them...
On disclosure, I also read the other day that the next batch of documents mentions UFO's, but doesn't confirm aliens aliens being here :frown:

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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: P-O] * 1
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PostiveOutlook said:
is there any ufo disclosure on there?




http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20024525-503543.html

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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: skatealex2]
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skatealex2 said:
PostiveOutlook said:
is there any ufo disclosure on there?




http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20024525-503543.html



"However, it is worth noting that in yet-to-be-published parts of the cablegate archive there are indeed references to UFOs."

Hmm  :strokebeard:












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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: skatealex2]
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crazy shit.

this is more important than most people realize


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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: g00ru]
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guruu said:
crazy shit.

this is more important than most people realize



Indeed. And the people against Wiki Leaks are beyond stupid. I guess they
want everything hidden for them at all times.

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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: DeadHearts]
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:rofl:ya what does that say about a person's psychology if they actually want this shit to remain hidden.

Welcome to the information age ladies and gentlemen


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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: g00ru]
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Yeah, this could get real interesting.

:popcorn:


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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: skatealex2] * 4
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What's going to come of wikileaks?
Revealing a tyrant by making it act like one.


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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: derpif]
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derpif said:
What's going to come of wikileaks?
Revealing a tyrant by making it act like one.



That was well put.


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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: LloydChristmas]
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LloydChristmas said:
Kinda interested in the data-bomb Assange has set in case something happens to him.



I gaurn fukin tee that the US has broken his encryptions and figured out what he has. They are now in the process of weighing the harm it would cause, with the harm of letting him continue on.

Also they are preparing backup plans, and deny-ability.

I wouldnt be too worried about a war starting, after all, all this data is coming from a source that could be fabricating it, or making things look worse.


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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said:
guruu said:
crazy shit.

this is more important than most people realize



Indeed. And the people against Wiki Leaks are beyond stupid. I guess they
want everything hidden for them at all times.


I think Wikileaks should only post shit that exposes corrupt, powerful assholes for what they are; posting a bunch of random shit that doesn't expose corruption just harms innocent people.


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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: skatealex2]
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Highly doubt the US has broken his encryption. He's not your everyday computer nerd. By looking into his past, you can see he is a genius when it comes to hacking and computer science.

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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: rodfarva]
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Well he's going to be extradited to Sweeden shortly.. from there I imagine he'll end up being kidnapped by the CIA and tortured like that German guy was. (here too).

It's pretty irrelevant what happens to Assange though, because he's just a public face associated with it. Wikileaks is much bigger than him. Luckily with the decentralization possible over the internet they will have a hard time shutting it down, especially considering the content is just text.

There is definitely a strain on international relations at the moment between a lot of the more powerful countries in the world. The BBC said that the Ecuadorian government (which pro-full disclosure / anti USA) said they would offer protection & sanctuary to Assange if necessary).

I too am looking forward to the bombshell thats going to go off when Assange is indicted. Apparently theres a lot of material about Camp Delta and other stuff that the US govt would not like the liberal media to see.


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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: Cepheus]
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Im telling you there is no computer trick that the CIA etc. haven't figured out.

If you think they let encryptions out that they cant break, thats a dream.

Besides tho, if he doesn't go down hard thats how you know we figured out the stuff he has and dont want it out.

I bet he ends up with a slap on the wrist and we dont get that pass phrase for 10 years.


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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
DeadHearts said:
guruu said:
crazy shit.

this is more important than most people realize



Indeed. And the people against Wiki Leaks are beyond stupid. I guess they
want everything hidden for them at all times.


I think Wikileaks should only post shit that exposes corrupt, powerful assholes for what they are; posting a bunch of random shit that doesn't expose corruption just harms innocent people.



it's opening up the flow of information.  In the long run it can only be a good thing.  The government won't be able to pull as much bullshit when they know the public can and will find out about it due to online whistleblowers.


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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: rodfarva]
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Iranian officials are skeptical of WikiLeaks' recent release of diplomatic cables, with Presidential Advisor Esfandiar Rahim Mashai asserting that the U.S. government orchestrated the leak to manipulate Middle Eastern governments against each other. Mashai argues that the documents are not authentic and serve Washington's interests in portraying itself as the world's leader and instilling fear in regional countries. He questions the authenticity of the disclosures and insists that Iran is a smart nation that can see through the U.S.'s propaganda. The post highlights concerns about potential errors in communication and the risks of catastrophic consequences stemming from such a high-profile leak.

apparently Iran thinks the wikileaks thing is all a setup. the way they view this situation kinda worries me about how other countries will see it.
a leak of information with this much importance has a very large chance for errors in communication that could have catastrophic consequences.





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Iranian Official Responds to Wikileaks  'The United States Is Behind This Deliberate Leak'



Iran has its own special take on the diplomatic cables recently published by WikiLeaks. Presidential Advisor Esfandiar Rahim Mashai assumes that the United States government leaked the documents itself. In an interview with SPIEGEL ONLINE, he says that Washington's goal is to play off the governments in the Middle East against one other.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Have you read what Washington's ambassadors in your neighboring Arab countries write about Iran?

Esfandiar Rahim Mashai: I've been traveling a lot recently, so I haven't had a chance yet. But our experts are examining the disclosures very intensively and have reported everything to me.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: Are you surprised by the clarity with which some Gulf States, as well as Egypt, call upon the United States to stop Tehran's nuclear ambitions?

Mashai: These documents are not authentic. The national interests of the United States and its allies are behind this. They see the world through their eyes, pursue their own goals, and draw the conclusions that suit their purposes.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: What are the intentions of the United States, in your view?

Mashai: America wants to portray itself as the leader of the world, as master of the destinies of nations. It wants to play off the regimes in the region against one another. It wants the world to believe that we are divided. It wants to legitimize its presence and influence in the region.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: But the diplomatic reports were published against Washington's will and are damaging to the United States. The WikiLeaks disclosures are not a State Department PR campaign.

Mashai: Are you sure about that? How, then, did WikiLeaks gain access to the documents?

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Presumably through a US Army private who had access to a central government database and has since been arrested.

Mashai: Do you believe that? Then you must be very naïve indeed. No, the United States is behind this deliberate leak. The Americans are trying to paint the world in black and white. They underscore the differences among nations and want to show everyone that peace is only possible in cooperation with them.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Do you question the authenticity of the more than 250,000 documents?

Mashai: I don't want to get into individual documents and their authenticity. But I have no doubt that a US government plan is behind this disclosure. When someone wants to suggest something, they include fake information with real information so as to create a certain impression. That's why each country has to analyze the documents that relate to it, which is what our experts in Tehran are doing now.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: In other words, you do take the embassy reports very seriously.

Mashai: We are only examining them to figure out the Americans' tricks.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: You refuse to believe that your neighbors fear Iran?

Mashai: That's what we read in the reports. But it's the United States that is trying to instill fear of Iran in these countries. No one is afraid of us, nor should they be. But one can also see these reports as evidence of how much pressure the United States exerts on some governments. When that happens, things are said that the other party wants to hear.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Is that how you explain the statement by the Saudi Arabian king, who demands that the United States "cut off the head of the (Iranian) snake?"

Mashai: That isn't the language of the Saudi Arabian king. In their reports, the US ambassadors can claim that anyone said anything. Our friends in the region are denying everything.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: … because they don't want to upset Tehran any further.

Mashai: They don't deny the mistakes they've made in the past, such as when they supported Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein in his war against us. And we generously forgave them. Even if one of our friends had said something unfortunate, the Iranian nation would forgive them.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: So, in your view, the fear of your nuclear program is pure fantasy on the part of the US ambassadors in the region?

Mashai: We want to use nuclear energy in a peaceful way. Our neighbors know that. If they fear anything, it's a military strike against Iran by the United States and its allies. If they are afraid, then it's the result of American and Zionist propaganda.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: Are your fellow Iranians able to view the WikiLeaks disclosures on the Internet, or is the site blocked, like so many others in Iran?

Mashai: Anyone can access the site. Why should be block it? We are a great nation that doesn't have a problem with such disclosures. Our nation is smart enough to see through this campaign.














http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,733060,00.html

Edited by blazenn (12/06/10 08:41 PM)

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Re: What's going to come of wikileaks? [Re: blazenn]
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All the media has to do is say "wikileaks said". truth doesn't matter in news.

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