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This time it is about oil.
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Those French!

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Copyright 1999 Associated Press
AP Worldstream

December 5, 1999; Sunday 14:01 Eastern Time

SECTION: International news
LENGTH: 942 words
HEADLINE: Report: Iraq will cut trade ties with France if it supports U.N. resolution
BYLINE: LEON BARKHO
DATELINE: BAGHDAD, Iraq
BODY:
France will lose all of its trade benefits, including lucrative oil development deals, if it
votes in favor of a U.N. resolution backed by the United States and rejected by Iraq, Iraq's most
influential newspaper said Sunday.

The warning in Babel, the daily newspaper owned by President Saddam Hussein's eldest son, Odai,
singled out French oil giants Elf Aquitaine and Total, which have deals nearing completion for the
development of two of the world's largest oil fields.

If the resolution is passed ''logic says that both Elf and Total will have to close their offices
in Baghdad and leave. That means they will lose the huge oil investment opportunities they have
been granted,'' Babel said in a front-page editorial and were signed by Abdulrazzaq al-Hashimi, a
senior member of the ruling Bath party.

Iraq also ''will put an end to the preferential treatment given to French companies,'' it said.

Russia and China Iraq's closest allies among the five permanent Security Council members as well as
France have favored suspending sanctions soon after Iraq allows U.N. weapons inspectors to return
and demonstrates compliance with them. But the United States and Britain demand a longer waiting
period and Iraqi answers to outstanding questions about its disarmament.

Attempts to reach a compromise have dragged on nearly a year, but a vote appears to be drawing
near. Lately, Iraqi state-run newspapers have accused France of leaning toward the U.S.-British
position on Iraq in the Security Council. The direct warning, however, was new.

Babel did not say whether Iraq would punish its other two major trading partners Russia and China
if they agree to the proposal. Both have signed deals to develop oil fields in Iraq.

The United States is pressing U.N. Security Council members to reach agreement on the proposed
resolution which charts a new policy toward Iraq that would restart U.N. weapons inspections as
well as upgrade the humanitarian program in the country.

U.N. arms inspectors left Iraq almost a year ago on the eve of U.S.-British airstrikes. The
government had vowed not to let them return. Nizar Hamdoon, a deputy foreign minister said Saturday
that Iraq would only allow the inspectors back if U.N. sanctions imposed after Iraq's 1990 invasion
of Kuwait were abolished.

France is among Iraq's major trading partners under the U.N.-approved oil program, which permits
oil sales worth dlrs 5.2 billion every six months despite the sanctions. French exports to Iraq
were estimated at a half-billion dollars during each the past two phases of the program.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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And so no-one has to point it out, it is an older article..... but still valid.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Ohh what did you think?
That US, France or Russia cares about humanitarian causes?
They care about their interests.
And this time, France chooses peace over war, because they have some interests there.

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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: MushMushi]
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That post was for two reasons.
1st and foremost... to give a ribbing to an individual who posts here fairly often. I bet he knows who I mean.
2nd, because the French are hypocritical assholes.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Quote:
the French are hypocritical assholes


Hey, looks like they do have something in common with the U.S.


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"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: silversoul7]
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Hey, at least they're good at surrendering.

And then resenting those who help liberate them.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: MushMushi]
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Quote:
That US, France or Russia cares about humanitarian causes?


Oh, but Canada is perfect, eh?


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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: Skikid16]
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Okay
I should have said:
and other countries as well.
Canada, is almost a usa state.

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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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That doesn't surprise me. The US always has ulterior motives besides what we plaster around as our cause when we do things. I suppose it is pretty naive to expect something different from another country. Politics is a sleazy business, and it disgusts me. Everythings always got to be about the scrilla.

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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: ]
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The US always has ulterior motives


You mean, like every other country in every possible conflict? Or do you mean we sometimes do. We didn't fight in WWII to get Germany's oil.

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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: Anonymous]
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Germany also killed 6 million jews. Not to mention all the other causualties of the war THEY started.

Saddam has yet to attack anyone.. or so I hear.

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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: Anonymous]
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We fought in WW2 because Japan attacked us.


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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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French exports to Iraq were estimated at a half-billion dollars during each the past two phases of the program.


Which likely go straight to Saddam's pockets.

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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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So if your point is one group(the french) are wrong to go after the oil without war and the other (America)are right to kill for it.
I would have to disagree again with you :smile:


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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: silversoul7]
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Exactly, which is why I find issue with the statement that we ALWAYS have ulterior motives in EVERYTHING we do.

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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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You're preaching to the choir...Everything is about oil.


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"Life has never been weird enough for my liking"

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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: Rono]
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Quote:
Everything is about oil.


Actually everything is about sex. The big movers want the oil to increase their wealth and power, they want to increase their wealth and power because then they can get more chicks. Or to quote Al Pacino as Tony in Scarface, "First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the woman."


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: Evolving]
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I stand corrected... :smirk:


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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: Evolving]
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At bushes age hes needs a good lubricant though so it is about oil :smile: as well


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Re: This time it is about oil. [Re: G a n j a]
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Quote:
So if your point is one group(the french) are wrong to go after the oil without war and the other (America)are right to kill for it.


No, my point was that France doesn't want to join in the war because it would jeopardize their oil contracts with Iraq.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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