Kid_Orgo said:

Sorry, I worded that wrong. I meant the show isn't directly linked to the viewer ship, meaning how many people watch it isn't the sole criteria for whether a show goes on, Futurama being a key example.

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Kid_Orgo said:

EDIT: Futurama is only coming back because it did so well in repeats for years on Cartoon Network. Explain THAT in terms of downloading.

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makaveli8x8 said:

all that needs to be true is that you watched it.  Piraters are the ones pushing the 'antidea" if you will for short.  If you watched it, then clearly you wanted to, then clearly they lost a sale.  Its just a poor mans excuse.

If by some act of god you decided to watch a show because you didn't want to watch a show then really i have no arguement for you other than the fact that who cares if its an equal one to one losd...it doesn't.

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makaveli8x8 said:

and when viewing the world objectively you have to take piracy out of the equation, what would you do if piracy wasn't around at all, you wouldn't have that choice anymore.  Hence, your "pretend not to watch but watch anyway" story would turn into "i guess ill go watch tv since i felt like watching tv"

you had a desire to watch something and you did, your just blinded by how easy it actually is, you wanted to watch the show you just didn't want to watch the dam ads, and the only reason you feel that way is because piracy has spoiled you into thinking you shouldn't HAVE to watch them

but like i said it doesn't even matter, even if what you say really isn't just a poor mans excuse it doesn't change the fact that views are still lost, and the spreading of piracy increases said losses.

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tiny_rabid_birds said:

man, rooster, it's good to stay true to your personal moral values and everything

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RoosterCogburn said:

tiny_rabid_birds said:

man, rooster, it's good to stay true to your personal moral values and everything

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You guys are fuckin incredible... It's not about morals, it's about risk/reward. You guys get so bent out of shape about things without even understanding.

I just think it's idiotic to risk being sued over watching a tv show illegally. Period. The End. It's a FUCKING TV SHOW. That they didn't want to watch anyway

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Brugman said:

Guys! Shut up and watch Futurama!

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makaveli8x8 said:

all that needs to be true is that you watched it.  Piraters are the ones pushing the 'antidea" if you will for short.  If you watched it, then clearly you wanted to, then clearly they lost a sale.  Its just a poor mans excuse.

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WakeboardrB said:

makaveli8x8 said:

all that needs to be true is that you watched it.  Piraters are the ones pushing the 'antidea" if you will for short.  If you watched it, then clearly you wanted to, then clearly they lost a sale.  Its just a poor mans excuse.

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I download copies of tv shows all the time. I have full seasons of tons of different shows. Hell, I even got the two new Futurama episodes...

But I still watch these shows on TV. I still am going to watch the new episodes of Futurama tonight, even though I saw them two nights ago.

I keep copies of my favorite shows and episodes so that I can watch them whenever I want to. When it's 2am I have the hankering to watch my favorite episode of Dexter or The Sopranos, bam... I can. When I'm on a long road trip or am on a plane, bam... I can watch them. When the power or cable is out in the middle of the night, bam... I can watch them.

Does that make me a thief?

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no if you own a copy then your allowed to copy it and transport it on other devices, well most.  I get what your saying and the few others that have mentioned it, but you both known your in the minority.  Most pirates don't do that, maybe some start out like that, but eventually you'll start to take advantage here and there, then one day you wake up and your a full blown pirate with the eyepatch to boot.  All im getting at is most do end up like that, most are heartless, most do nothing but hurt these companys, all i was hoping for was more people to show a little more respect, instead of the "haha im a pirate and make them money" and spreading that to others.  If people want to be that kind of person fine but show respect and realize what you are and what your words and actions are doing.  At the core, most will end up stealing, i just don't feel thats a good message nor a shroomery message to be passing around.  and its disappointed, insulting, and sad that there's only like 1 other person in this thread that feels that way, and not only do you guys disagree but try to mock us (not you specifically, well not yet i should say)