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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: FatChicksNcoke]
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So every cop should call for backup every time they write 10$ tickets, because something like this MIGHT happen?  Ok...

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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: BothHands]
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If they're black yes. :hehehe:


JK


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: BothHands]
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BothHands said:
So every cop should call for backup every time they write 10$ tickets, because something like this MIGHT happen?  Ok...


dude, no, read this carefully, plz


he should have called for backup

WHEN

they did not stop walking

when he told them to

period

fuckin read kid


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:bobmarley: Shroomism said:
biting into a juicy delicious piece of fruit while tripping balls is probably up there in my greatest life experiences.:lsdabc:


HappyTrippin said:
I usually combat those kinds of negative statuses with a status of my own.

Let us rise up and be thankful, for if we didn't learn a lot today, at least we learned a little, and if we didn't learn a little, at least we didn't get sick, and if we got sick, at least we didn't die; so, let us all be thankful. - Buddha

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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: BothHands]
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BothHands said:
So every cop should call for backup every time they write 10$ tickets, because something like this MIGHT happen?  Ok...


correct:yesnod:

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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: FatChicksNcoke] * 1
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FatChicksNcoke said:
if he had control AT ALL, he would have detained both of the girls with ease.


if you feel controlling the situation involves shooting/tasering the
suspect then you need to learn what exactly control involves, the cop
was not trying to injure the girl, he was simply trying to execute his
duties, he could have body slammed her and followed with a few dozen
blows to the casaba on her neck with the pr-24 to gain absolute
dominance but then where would things have been...

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:facepalm:

(you'll probably have it out for me after that facepalm, sorry, but i had to, he really had NO control that whole time.)




what? it's a simple discussion, we're conducting ourselves like civil
adults, what reason would I have to 'have it in' for you over something
so trivial

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there was NO control in that situation, seriously? if he would have detained the first girl properly and with control, she would have been in handcuffs before the other girl even tried to attack him.


he was trying to issue a citation not recreate the LA/Rodney King riots,
as situations carry to the various levels of escalation the appropriate
application of force is required, had one pulled a weapon at the onset
I'm sure this would have turned ugly, as it was, the cop had restrained
himself from using various methods to subdue the girl, about midway
through the video he applied a 'choke hold', he let the pressure off
possibly because he felt it would be counter productive or put the life
of the girl in danger

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and before approaching the disorderly group of people, YOU CALL FOR BACKUP. that's maintaining control.



you know not what you're talking about, he was approaching a small group
that had jay walked, there's no reason to suspect a small violation
would become a violent confrontation, calling back up for a jaywalking
ticket... I mean seriously, in fact I'm sure I can find many instance
where calling backup has exacerbated the problem

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they teach you EARLY in the academy that you need to recognize situations BEFORE they happen, so that you don't put yourself, or someone else, in a harmful situation.


you sure seem to spout off a great deal about what they teach at the
police academy, how long were you a cop? did they teach them to unload a
magazine into every pothead and tase every speeder?

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problem fucking solved, that bitch in the pink would NOT have gotten brave. she felt powerful with 30 of her friends from school around her, and one cop.




sorry but you've not explained what he should have done that would have
kept the girl in pink in check, was that to tase everyone?


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he didnt have to be involved in that altercation. he could have saved himself and that girl a lot of hassle. 



yep, he could have ignored ot or he could have run her down with the
patrol car to demonstrate just how dangerous jay walking is

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I never said he should have tasered them, man. i know you can read, don't be insulting. i was saying he should have called for backup before approaching them. different situation.


so you're suggesting that they call for backup in every situation, I
mean seriously, who the hell decides to fight a cop over a jay walking
citation


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but he still needed help from that black kid in the crowd



I'm a small fella, I worked as security at a bar, broke up a fight and
while I was escorting someone from the premises a customer decided to
help which resulted in the guy I was ejecting having a dislocated
shoulder, you believe the cop needed it and just because the kid jumped
in doest mean the cop was in over his head, it means that the cop was
reserved in what he could have done and some kid decided to do his 'good
deed' for the day


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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: FatChicksNcoke]
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FatChicksNcoke said:
everybody is all gung-ho for beating these black girls asses to a pulp.

i dont think any beating was necessary, if he would have approached them correctly, that girl never would have gotten brave.



no one gets brave when you dump a couple rounds from the 9mm into their
friends chest... you're saying that the cop should have brought in 30 or
so armed goons for a jay walking ticket, you dont see just how
ridiculous that is, it's tying up taxpayer resources and taking a small
confrontation and making it into a riot by using disproportionate force

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nobody sees the cop being at fault? seriously?


no...


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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
FatChicksNcoke said:
everybody is all gung-ho for beating these black girls asses to a pulp.

i dont think any beating was necessary, if he would have approached them correctly, that girl never would have gotten brave.



no one gets brave when you dump a couple rounds from the 9mm into their
friends chest... you're saying that the cop should have brought in 30 or
so armed goons for a jay walking ticket, you dont see just how
ridiculous that is, it's tying up taxpayer resources and taking a small
confrontation and making it into a riot by using disproportionate force

Quote:
nobody sees the cop being at fault? seriously?


no...


funny thing is, cops are so scared they need at least 5 to take down someone with two blades... i would force them to shoot me

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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: FatChicksNcoke] * 1
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Why would the cop be at fault? You are not allowed to behave aggressively towards police officers, this is common sense. I've encountered many people like that girl, and assholes like that feel like they're entitled to be loud, obnoxious, aggressive assholes to absolutely everyone without any consequences.


SHE PUSHED A FCKING COP FOR GOD'S SAKE, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW RETARDED THAT IS?!?!?!!



uncivilBANKS said:
funny thing is, cops are so scared they need at least 5 to take down someone with two blades... i would force them to shoot me

When people resist, overkill is the name of the game. :satansmoking:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: Prisoner#1]
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FatChicksNcoke said:
i dont think any beating was necessary, if he would have approached them correctly, that girl never would have gotten brave.


How do you know he didn't "approach them correctly"?  You've never seen young people lose their temper at what seems like nothing?

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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: ModularMind]
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ModularMind said:
FatChicksNcoke said:
i dont think any beating was necessary, if he would have approached them correctly, that girl never would have gotten brave.


How do you know he didn't "approach them correctly"?  You've never seen young people lose their temper at what seems like nothing?


you dont want to see, hear, or feel me LOSE my temper

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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: ModularMind]
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Even if the cop approached them inappropriately, you don't fucking push him, that is just childish.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: FatChicksNcoke] * 1
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FatChicksNcoke said:
somebody gets out of a car that's in the street, walks up to the glass from outside and shoots one of the officers point blank, in the head.

He runs and gets away

Real story.


who the fuck expected that to happen?

shit like this happens all the time.


no it doesnt, it happens on occasion, if it were an every day occurence
then we wouldnt have cops because people would be too afraid to join and
those we had would be dead

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they are cops, everybody hates them, they know this, they are supposed to expect the worst, all the time.



you're perpetuating the 'us vs. them' attitude that some folks have,
you're suggesting that everyone be treated as violent criminals by the
police departments, why would you advocate further militarizing the
police when you obviously dislike them and their tactics

how could it have been prevented, by having a dozen cops ganging up on a
couple of girls over a jay walking ticket? seems that could make it worse


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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: uncivilBANKS]
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uncivilBANKS said:
funny thing is, cops are so scared they need at least 5 to take down someone with two blades... i would force them to shoot me


no, they only need 4, 2 in the chest and 2 in the head if the twitching
hasnt stopped. 5 cops for an armed individual isnt that bad, especially if
they took him without a loss of life


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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I blame an idiotic gangsta culture(music and movies) for his naive attitude.

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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: FatChicksNcoke]
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FatChicksNcoke said: i dont think any beating was necessary, if he would have approached them correctly, that girl never would have gotten brave.

nobody sees the cop being at fault? seriously?


Approached them correctly?  How do you know how this situation started?  Did you see it personally?  I watched this vid several times, and I didn't see how this cop approached them.

I am not "sticking up" for the LEO, but I sure as hell understand why he punched that girl.  Just from the video standpoint.  I wasn't there.

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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: ModularMind]
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ModularMind said:
I blame an idiotic gangsta culture(music and movies) for his naive attitude.

You know what? Me too. :sadyes:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: Prisoner#1]
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So you guys stop putting words in my mouth:

they should NOT call for backup everytime

he never needed to taser, at any point, or ram his car into them (lol)

ive never been a cop, MAN. (for other reasons, i know a lot about the way they conduct themselves and how they are supposed to handle situations.)



actually i just realized, your taking everything i said out of context.

sry im not replying to that, all im gonna say is:

that cop could have avoided the whole altercation had he called for backup as soon as the girls disobeyed his order to stop walking. 

its as simple as that.


and idk, some people take the facepalm offensively, didn't know you would react with such maturity.


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:bobmarley: Shroomism said:
biting into a juicy delicious piece of fruit while tripping balls is probably up there in my greatest life experiences.:lsdabc:


HappyTrippin said:
I usually combat those kinds of negative statuses with a status of my own.

Let us rise up and be thankful, for if we didn't learn a lot today, at least we learned a little, and if we didn't learn a little, at least we didn't get sick, and if we got sick, at least we didn't die; so, let us all be thankful. - Buddha

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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
FatChicksNcoke said:
everybody is all gung-ho for beating these black girls asses to a pulp.

i dont think any beating was necessary, if he would have approached them correctly, that girl never would have gotten brave.



no one gets brave when you dump a couple rounds from the 9mm into their
friends chest... you're saying that the cop should have brought in 30 or
so armed goons for a jay walking ticket, you dont see just how
ridiculous that is, it's tying up taxpayer resources and taking a small
confrontation and making it into a riot by using disproportionate force

Quote:
nobody sees the cop being at fault? seriously?


no...






if the cop would have approached her, with another officer, she would not have gotten brave, stop posting my shit out of context


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:bobmarley: Shroomism said:
biting into a juicy delicious piece of fruit while tripping balls is probably up there in my greatest life experiences.:lsdabc:


HappyTrippin said:
I usually combat those kinds of negative statuses with a status of my own.

Let us rise up and be thankful, for if we didn't learn a lot today, at least we learned a little, and if we didn't learn a little, at least we didn't get sick, and if we got sick, at least we didn't die; so, let us all be thankful. - Buddha

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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: FatChicksNcoke]
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FatChicksNcoke said:
if the cop would have approached her, with another officer, she would not have gotten brave, stop posting my shit out of context

Knowing idiots like those, she would've gotten even more pissed off.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Police punches 17-year-old girl during confrontation [Re: FatChicksNcoke] * 1
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That shit is posted word for word.

Get some real life experience under your belt and start posting more intelligently.

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