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Re: The Cavs (They still ain't got it) [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
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Ha ha

I have to bump this thread because it's so funny how you could see it all coming even after just one fucking game. Plus, you can read this and see who knows wtf they're talking about and who's just singing a bunch of bullshit.

Until Lebron gets a ring I'm going to insist he's overrated.


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[quote]Asante said:
You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]

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Re: The Cavs (They still ain't got it) [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
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He's got no help!

He's not over-rated.

No player can do it alone.

He's got one okay player, Mo Williams, and an aging hippopotamus in Shaq.

That is it.

The team around him is effing awful.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: The Cavs (They still ain't got it) [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Right now he's on the list with Malone, Barkley and Wilkins. It's up to him to get off that list.


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[quote]Asante said:
You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]

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Re: The Cavs (They still ain't got it) [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
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Who was the last superstar to win a title with no help?

I'm having problems thinking of one...


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: The Cavs (They still ain't got it) [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Madtowntripper said:
Who was the last superstar to win a title with no help?

I'm having problems thinking of one...



Wladimir Klitschko lol

I hear ya. He needs help. I just don't call people the best until they get titles.


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[quote]Asante said:
You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]

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Re: The Cavs (They still ain't got it) [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
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TheFakeSunRa said:
Right now he's on the list with Malone, Barkley and Wilkins. It's up to him to get off that list.



The only one on this list I would compare him to is Wilkins. Both Malone and Barkley had help and still couldn't get it done. Lebron and Wilkins had pretty much no one.

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Re: The Cavs (They still ain't got it) [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
The only one on this list I would compare him to is Wilkins. Both Malone and Barkley had help and still couldn't get it done. Lebron and Wilkins had pretty much no one.





I think Barkely held his own moreso than Malone.  Barkley never had the greatest PG of all time playing with him.


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Re: The Cavs (They still ain't got it) [Re: LiquidSmoke]
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Barkley did play with Kevin Johnson, though. KJ did average close to 20ppg and 10 asst during the years he played with Barkley.

Both of them did have tremendous help, which can't be said of Wilkins.

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Re: The Cavs (They still ain't got it) [Re: Redstorm]
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I don't question Lebron's talent- it's his heart that is in question. The disappearing act during pivotal Game 5 was baffling.

That being said the main problem with this team is the coach and GM. The coach failed to utilize the team's greatest strength vs. the Celtics: their athleticism. Played right into their hands. He also panicked and messed with his rotation following that Game 5 loss which surely set a very negative tone for the players whose doubts began to multiply as a result.

When you have a talent like Lebron you should bring in a more experienced coach, preferable one with a ring. That gets player's respect right away.

And the GM is at fault for failing to bring in a consistent #2 scorer and defender besides Lebron. No matter how talented you are, there are going to be games where you're off.

Michael Jordan had his Scottie Pippen.

Lebron is Batman with no Robin.


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Re: The Cavs (They still ain't got it) [Re: Redstorm]
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Quote:
Both Malone and Barkley had help and still couldn't get it done.



To be fair, they did have a little problem in that they both played in the era of the greatest player ever, Michael Jordan. I think Malone would have had at least 2 rings and Charles 1 otherwise.

MJ did invite Charles to play with him late in theircareers, after he had left the Bulls and things went sour for Barkley in Houston. I would have loved to have seen them play together but I think Charles was well on his way to couch potato status by then and didn't want to get into shape.


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Re: The Cavs (They still ain't got it) [Re: zorbman]
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zorbman said:
Quote:
Both Malone and Barkley had help and still couldn't get it done.



To be fair, they did have a little problem in that they both played in the era of the greatest player ever, Michael Jordan.





word...



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Re: The Cavs (They still ain't got it) [Re: LiquidSmoke]
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Nice.

Thanks, brother. That song is staying with me. Who is that?


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Re: The Cavs (They still ain't got it) [Re: zorbman]
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Sounds like Mos Def.

Edit: Yeah it is. Song called Umi Says.


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