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Fuck Randi!
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Yet another member who claims  paranormal powers played the highly irrational 'Fuck Randi' card as regards to claiming the $1 million dollar prize.

1. If you despise money, then win the prize and donate it to Haitian relief.

2. If you enjoy money then win the prize and throw the party to end all parties with your friends.

3. Of course, claimants ALWAYS back out because they actually suspect they may be deluding themselves - and they are right!


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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Well, how is anyone suppose to win the prize with all the S-rays spoiling everything? :snub:


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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: EternalCowabunga]
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Is it my fault that S-Rays are stronger than B-rays? :shrug:

Evolution FTW.


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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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I have been nothing but respectful & kind to you… But, you’ve proven yourself quite the ignorant little punk so I have some words for you.

You disgust me…

Fuck you & your little puppeteer Randi.

First of all did you not read what I wrote? I’d rather spend my time & energy working with non biased scientists who if I had no gift what so ever,  just like your stupid little hero Randi, would prove me wrong & encourage me to get psychological help if I was nuts. I asked if you knew of any organizations that do unbiased in depth research that would actually do something to benefit science & not some crusty old man trying to prove himself right. & you turn around & make this post?
Your pathetic…

Have you ever worked with a medicine man or shaman? Probably not. I’m not even gunna go into the trippy things they can do. Has this old decrepit Randi ever sought out these wise men? Of course not cuz he’s a little ignorant animal just like you & would rather spend his days cutting people down & reveling in it then getting off his pedestal & seeking the truth for himself. I doubt you’d know anything about that anyway given you’re a sheltered enculutrated ignorant American.

I have no respect for this Randi & honestly don’t know if I would even want his tainted money even in the face of all the good I could do with it.

I had to move out of my apartment & back in with my mom & siblings because my father passed away last month & money is tight as all hell.  I’m working to keep a roof over our heads & food in our stomachs. Do you think I have time & money to be traveling across the country to be playing around with this Randi joke? Sure the money could help my family but there is no way in hell I’m leaving them to go chase down this randi fucker, which would cost money that I don’t have. I’d be more than happy to do it if this old piece of shit & his mindless cronies came to me. There is no way I’d fuckin’ back down in the ridiculous fashion your so biasedly portraying. I could use the money for something good, give it to the Haitians like you’re suggesting as well as a lot of other things. Thing is, I have people I love that I wouldn’t abandon for the world that need me right now. Like I said, either get the douche bag to come to me or point me in the direction of more respectable scientists.
Is that so irrational?

To assume that I fear that I may be deluding myself is a bold & unfounded statement. Once again did you not read my words earlier? The notion that I may be wrong or insane does not frighten or disturb me one iota. I’d gladly accept that I was wrong & be thankful for being humbled. Like I said to you… The healing experiences on psychedelics are very maddening & disillusion you & teach you much… Something so weak as believing I have a gift that I don’t would not stand against the waves that batter the illusions that we weave into our threads of consciousness while undergoing such a process…

I don’t even give a shit that you don’t believe me that I have a gift, I mean how the hell is your personal skepticism gunna stop me from using it on a daily basis in the manner I do to help those around me?
How is going to stop my friends & family & others from coming to me when they’re in need of help or insight that I can give them? I live this shit… It feels ridiculous even defending it… like telling you that I infact DO have a toe… I mean do you realize what the nature of these sorts of gifts entail? Could you imagine knowing that your loved one is going to die & sharing it with your family before it even happens & praying & praying that your going to be totally wrong? & being angered with yourself for being right as well as having family mad at you? Thinking maybe that you worked some sort of bizzare evil magick?
Do you think I would nessescarly WANT something like that? I’d gladly pass the burden onto your shoulders brother… Gladly…

Do you know anything about government sponsored research on para-psychology? Did you know that they stated in this TIME article that I’m looking at that money was no longer nessercary to put into researching it that it should be now used for implementing it? What does that say?  Look it up yourself & don’t do it with some half ass google search either. Do your homework & seek some experience if you’re going to take such a bold position. Because you obviously don’t know a damned thing & are just talking for the hell of it showing off how smart you really aren’t

It would also probably be wise to think for yourself, but obviously it’s much easier for people to do the thinking for you & project their ideologies.:wink:

Either send your dream love Randi my way or point me in the direction of the sort of researchers I mentioned earlier. Either way I’m staying right where I’m at & holding my family close until we make it through this storm.

Until next time.

Shut your mouth & open your mind, turn off your T.V. & head outside.

Peace & Love

_-Eric

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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: EmbracingShadows]
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I have been nothing but respectful & kind to you… But, you’ve proven yourself quite the ignorant little punk so I have some words for you.

You disgust me…


Do you truly find that to be respectful? Sounds a lot like ego reaction.

Extreme anger and emotional imbalance is a sure sign of spiritual advancement. :thumbup:

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Do you know anything about government sponsored research on para-psychology?


Yes, they stopped the funding because it didn't work.

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Peace & Love


Hypocrisy sure is fun! :birthday:


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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Nowhere does it say that they stopped it because it didn't work. If you read a little more in depth & read the accounts you will find that it infact did work. I personally doubt that they ever really stopped. But I'm a civilian so what the hell do I know. I don't see why they would feel it important to release that information anyway given they don't tell us what it is their doing as it is.

No where in my words do I see extreme anger. I see myself being insulting but I don't see or remember experiencing extreme anger while writing it. But I can see how you could internalize it that way. & where do you get the emotional imbalance part? lol.

How do you expect me to respond to the way your acting torward me? I'd say any average well-rounded individual would respond to your unprovoked attacks with disgust. What? You just want me to sit there & say nothing? I think not Brother. Like I said, I was treating you with kindness & respect & expect you to be a better person than the way you were acting & treat your fellow man with the same respect you would want to be treated with... ESPECIALLY if he is showing you that respect to begin with.

The way you were acting was void of empathy or real understanding... Just shallow ignorance. You openly but indirectly accused me of cowardice & delusion without knowing me or where I stand as a person. If you were going to say anything at all you should have had the testies to use my name. Regardless of what you believe when it comes to things of this nature, you are still human just as I, bleed the same blood, walk & are made of the same earth. Have the same humanly desires & needs. You chose to treat someone badly because of conflicting ideas. Because I see & experience the world differently than you. What does that say? To me that is truly pathetic & hope you choose a better way of treating people in the future.

It isn't fair to yourself to act in such a manner.

I don't see hypocrisy here. I'm seeing Newton’s third law of motion applying to human emotion & interaction. I'm a hypocrite because I get upset when I am being disrespected & express it very clearly? I still desire peace & understanding between us like I did from the start. I don't see myself contradicting myself. There would be no peace & understanding between us if I had not said something to throw the imbalance between us into chaos. You now know where I stand & how I feel about it all. My point has been made.

I honestly & sincerely apologize for any hard feelings I may have caused you in my previous message. I'm certainly not gunna harbor any.

In the end & despite all this shit… Were all human & deserve & desire to be treated with respect by one another. When your paradigm doesn’t exactly mesh with someone else’s  it’s no excuse to treat them bad.

Peace & Love.
_-Eric.

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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: EmbracingShadows]
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Your denial about insult just tells us even more about you.

Why do delusions deserve respect?

A few months back, a stud came out to vist me in Vegas and challenged me on the racquetball court. He had 50 pounds and 15 years on me. When he lost 5 straight games by an average of 10 points per game, he proceeded to tell me how weak a player I am. I merely asked if we should go back on the court.

Your whole whiny post reminds me of that. Find a member in your area and give him an electric shock or go to the dozens of non-Randi skeptical sites to make some money and set the whole scientific paradigm on it's ear

or

post more empty words.

Your call.


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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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What the hell are you talking about? What do you mean "Your denial about insult" I openly acknowledged that I insulted you... You either misread or are making things up in your mind. Your mistaken. I'm not asking you to respect delusions I'm encouraging you to respect your fellow man. You think I care that you beat some puke who is just as blind and arrogant as you at raquet ball?

Explain to me how what I said was "empty". You my hollow friend are the one who I fear may be empty. I truly feel pity for you... If you are so blind as to let unfounded ideologies prevent you from living & seeing the more important things in life (Which have nothing to do with your silly rants about non-believers being right & beleivers being wrong)Then I have little time for you. Acting the way you are I would say it's safe to assume that you are pretty miserable... I'd give you a hug if you were here, you really seem like someone who might need one. Your elitist arrogance sickens me... & about my "whiny" post... I'm pretty sure it stung that weak little boy who resides in that flesh of yours that feels the need to boost himself by attacking other peoples way of percieving the world before he really examines his own.

I don't see what your trying to prove through your raquet ball story... so what? what do you want? a pat on the back? for me to be intimidated by you in some silly way? Good luck. Hey, thanks for sharing that your in good physical shape though. Props for being healthy. :whatever: 

I really do feel sorry for you & any women that gets close to you or any children you have or may have or that you ligten up a little before they come into your life or do so for their sake. After having been blessed with the kind of father I have had you seem as if you would make a pretty sorry one. & i'm not saying that to be a prick... I'm being sincere. Words can never be empty my friend... They are what we use to weave our reality. It's how we take those wordless sensations & emotions & project them into the world. They have the power to shape the way we percieve ourselves & the world we are in & influance others as well as heal & harm. But I doubt you think about the sounds you emit from that foul gullet of yours or write down & what they can do. Your probably just gunna scan this over & not even pay attention to what I said & project some more dickish elitist skeptic rabble... after all.. YOU ARE RIGHT! RIGHT!? That probably just tickles that massive disgusting ego of yours.

I beleive we are both right. but that's probably to big of a perspective for you to think about. Or maybe it's... INSANE?! OH GOD NOT THAT! Randi wouldn't approve! I musn't even ponder what he's saying! I feel that I am nothingness, that I am dead while simultaneously being alive, that I am a part of everything. I don't fear being wrong because I am right just as much as you are wrong & vice versa. I don't fear being insane because sanity is just as much as an illusion as what you are trying to prove as wrong through the illusion you use as your measuring stick to compare it against.

You have no real grounds to make your claims through lack of no real respectible experience other than your frequent vists to Randi's webpage. Go work as a hospice nurse & watch people & help them die comfortabley for a living... Your perspective on what it means to be human & alive & other things surrounding the mystery of death & life will be made clear to you. It is extremley obvious that you have no experience in such matters making you just another talker. You just talk & push your unfounded ideology. You know nothing of life because you know nothing of death.

Just remember, you are nothing more or less than I will ever be.

It's just that simple my friend.

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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: EmbracingShadows]
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I don't see what your trying to prove through your raquet ball story... so what?


Is it that deep? Words are as nothing as compared to action. If you had something you would show us instead of lashing out.

Comprende, mi compadre?


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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: EmbracingShadows]
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i'm not saying that to be a prick


Insults only come from prickish people.

Sincere seekers desire to learn.

Even though you have already shown your nature up to this point in time you can decide here and now which you choose to be in the future. Maturation is a process not a point of arrival.

Somehow, I have faith that you my may choose wisely. :thumbup:


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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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I would love to show you but how the hell is that gunna work if your all the way over in that wretched desert? I was insulted by the way you treated me I made it clear & apologized for being a douche about it & still hold that & feel douchey for being a douche even further... I don't want to have to get into the nature of words & action & their own power... But I'm sure you can easily think of why your statement isn't nessecarily & always true. You seem like a smart guy, you can figure it out.

My "lashing out" had nothing to do with the conversation & had everything to do with the way you acted torward me. Wich is what this is still about... I treated you harshly because I was insulted & disgusted that you would act in such a manner torward me. I WAS kind & respectful to you in the begining... I thought I was just having a casual conversation with a person with a different perspective on life until you decided to make this post... Openly & indirectly demeaning & insulting someone is not mature nor is worthy of respect nor is spitting in the face of someone offering an apology & trying to recitfy & bring understanding to a situation that the other party created.

My insults are born of frustration & reflect little on how I'm really feeling about the situation. The father comment though... I do hope that you don't treat people who you supposedly love in such a strange manner I would feel sorry for them if you do...

I don't see any sincere desire to learn in your words... I see the desire to feel right & demean & attack everyone elses perspective but your own.

I asked you to stop & think about what you were doing & got nothing by more jib jab & negativity in return.

I'm more than willing to admit that I could have left the insults out of the posts & that I wronged you by including them. what does that show about my nature? That i'm human & although I am deeply spiritual, still human. & at times won't hold back from throwing out petty insults. But I still don't see anything coming from you. My apologies. I still don't see you acknowledging how you wronged me through your behavior or feeling or expressing any remorse for it. That's what disturbs me & frustrates me.
& you talk to me about maturity? shit... A man needs to take responsibilty for his actions and say "My bad" when he fucks up & try to learn & grow from his mistakes.
& no matter how right you think you are in your opinions treating people badly then darting around the issue when they get upset & call you on your shit is not cool, mature or enlightened.

I feel I'm essentially wasting my time with you at this point...

You show no desire to come to a point of understanding or accept my apology or apologize for your behavior. So I'm going to say a few words aplogize & leave it at that.

In the future I hope you treat people with more respect & acknowledge that you have done them wrong & accept why they are upset for being wronged & don't turn around & criticize them & demean them even further to others for the gain & advancement of your own selfish ideas. & have the strength & ability to do better for yourself & everyone around you.
Your capable of so much better than that... & I hope that it's what you do for yourself & the world.
You said it yourself... actions are more powerful than words.

Sincere apologies.

_-Eric.

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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: EmbracingShadows]
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I have been nothing but respectful & kind to you… But, you’ve proven yourself quite the ignorant little punk so I have some words for you.

You disgust me…

Fuck you & your little puppeteer Randi.

OK friends, lets get a look under the mask of the "spiritual", and "respectful", posts of this person. The "Teacher and Healer"

We really ought to sticky this because for sure we will see it again.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
We really ought to sticky this because for sure we will see it again.


Here here. :thumbup:
Its been a good while since he managed to catch one so well. :lol:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: fireworks_god]
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:frown: I thought the title read "fuck Rand".

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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: Sventington]
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I didn't miss the one "i" in the end. :shrug:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: MushroomTrip]
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Dunno what to tell you, I guess your vision is better than mine.

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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: Sventington]
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Is that you, Sventngton?


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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said:
Its been a good while since he managed to catch one so well. :lol:

:salmon::fishing:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: Poid]
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Someone should sticky this as a textbook case of how to get your ass handed to you by OC


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Re: Fuck Randi! [Re: EmbracingShadows]
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EmbracingShadows said:
Occupation      Spiritual Teacher and Healer, amongst other things. 

 
Bio      I don't like to talk about myself really... not to mention I'm probably too close to the image of myself to stay objective in my perception, or too far away to be subjective in any matter that really deals with myself... Thats what your here for! to serve as a mirror my friend! What I do know is that I love my life and everybody in it... Pain, bullshit, beauty and happiness. I wouldn't trade any of it for anything.





:lolsy:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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