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Who here is a hypocrite?
    #2435060 - 03/15/04 03:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I am. I denounce materialism, but my spending habits are nothing to be bragged about. I tell people to relax and "chill the fuck out," when sometimes I'm the one who needs a chill pill. I bitch about elitism while at the same time feeling somehow superior to those who act elitist. I complain about the two-party system, yet consistently vote for whoever ther Democratic candidate is. I tell people not to be judgemental even though I can sometimes be rather quick to judge others. Is anyone else here a hypocrite?


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2435067 - 03/15/04 03:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Nope.

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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2435070 - 03/15/04 03:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm one of the biggest, baby :cool:


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2435217 - 03/15/04 04:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Everyone is at times, but some are more than others


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2435368 - 03/15/04 04:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think everyone is on some level. It's hard for behavior not to contradict what someone says or believes. Unless you're completely non-judgemental and make no statements about anything, you're going to end up being a hypocrite, which is fine.


Unless.....


You're the type who is strongly hypocritical. Those who tell others how they should live and behave in the exact oppisite way.


BTW, I've noticed a superiorism in myself about not playing higherarchy games. It's funny when you catch yourself in those moments.


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2435397 - 03/15/04 04:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

*raises hand*

I tend to speak the way I think we all "should" act, while I myself am one of the violators. It's kind of as if when I'm speaking in such a manner, I am implying myself included.

Especially the other night when I rambled to my friend for 3 hours in the afterglow of a shroom trip.. it's like, I know I'm no spiritual perfection, but I did such an incredible job verbalizing how to go about finding what it is he's "searching for".. he always says it's like he's searching for something but he doesn't know what it is, especially when he's tripping.. so I decided to dive into it and try to actually explain how to make himself happy.

Basically, it's like, the whole time I was telling him this, I was also talking to myself. It was my SELF-self talking to my EGO-self, so to speak. It was really incredible how free I was from my ego this particular trip.. I felt straight up born again. I could feel love flowing through me, like water. This was a very intense feeling, but it was several hours after the peak of the trip. It was this incredible SURGE of energy all through me, triggered by deep thought and revelation which led to defeating my ego. The result was one of the most spiritual people I've ever found myself being. It was as if I'd found god, only I knew god wasn't the god religion upholds him to be, but instead was all of us, and the entire universe, all as a whole.

At one point my girlfriend was lying on the floor on a pillow, and I was sitting in my computer chair just BEAMING with this energy, and she said "why don't you share this pillow with me?" at first I did not want to lie down, but then she said it again, "Why don't you use the pillow?" and I IMMEDIATELY knelt down in front of it and put my face and hands down in the pillow.

It should be noted that I have not prayed in a very long time. I've been a spiritually closed-minded person for a long time. I tried church for a few years and concluded that god wasn't trying to talk to me. I started telling people, when asked of religion, that "We've got a thing going on: he don't talk to me, I don't talk to him."

But in this moment of connectedness, I prayed. It was the most pure prayer I'd ever experienced. It wasn't a desperate reachout for something, instead it was pure basking in the bliss of having FOUND something when I wasn't even reaching anymore. I felt undying amounts of empathy and gratefulness in this moment.

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack your thread.. just trying to make a point, which is:

Hypocracy in man is a very common thing and is very difficult to avoid completely, due to the struggle between each person's "two halves" so to speak.


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2435407 - 03/15/04 04:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

"I bitch about elitism while at the same time feeling somehow superior to those who act elitist."

HAH, missed that one on the first read.. I must say, I find myself doing this very often. I think that, however, if you just "feel" superior to them, and are humble enough not to act upon it or vocalize it, that you are "in the clear" so to speak. :tongue:


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #2435595 - 03/15/04 05:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

many contributing social factors and biochemical factors make me the hypocrit i am.

im addicted to sugar probly, caffine, who knows what else. (mmm ice cream)
its also hard to not be somewhat materialistic in a capitalist society.

i think its good when we are all bringing this up tho, if we wanted we could all help each other end our hypocracies. mebe thats what the revolution is really about?


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2435959 - 03/15/04 07:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sorry, but for the most part, I don't think I'm a hypocrite.

Okay, sometimes I still flip people off from my car, but not as often. I'm not rich yet, so I don't know how materialistic I will be if I come into money. I told my sister to fuck off when she and I got in a fight.

For the most part, I think I'm doing okay with what I've learned in my life and how I've tried to implement it, but I still slip. But I don't think I'm a hypocrite.


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2436132 - 03/15/04 08:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I just get this stupid "holier than thou" attitude right now with heavy drug users even though i used to be no better myself. I've definitely been working hard on losing this though. Its just a lonely feeling when you NEVER socialize because you are sober.

When you open doors for yourself, you gotta remember to not shut any behind you  :thumbup:


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2436193 - 03/15/04 08:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2436364 - 03/15/04 09:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

At times, like today in class when this one girl sat down near me, the smell of cigarettes came over me and it actually smelled terrible to me and I felt sick.




I smoke cigarettes on occasion.

So I guess I had a hypocritic episode today.


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2436410 - 03/15/04 09:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not a hypocrite, just an ironic contradiction  :smirk:


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: Shroomism]
    #2436680 - 03/15/04 10:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i read Adbusters but I'm just your basic gluttonous consumer. Bad habits are hard to break.


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2437031 - 03/15/04 11:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

everybody is a hypocrite in a way. We all try not to be but, what the hell, who are we kidding. At least im not as big of a hypocrite as some people.


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2437058 - 03/15/04 11:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I tell everyone I'm a hypocrite, but I'm not.


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: Evolving]
    #2437062 - 03/15/04 11:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

On second thought, maybe I am.


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2437643 - 03/16/04 02:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I am a hypocrite.

I rock
I suck


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: Strumpling]
    #2437785 - 03/16/04 03:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

After I answered this question, I had the opportunity to witness myself being a hypocrite several times.

So what I thought about was this:

None of us are perfect, so instead of beating ourselves up for being hypocrites, let's keep striving for perfection, being full aware, at the same time, that we may fall short.

I think it also has something to do with "bad habits". I learned once that to break a bad habit, there are three stages. Being aware of the bad habit and wanting to change it, catching yourself in the middle of the bad habit, and ultimately changing the bad habit.

So if we are aware that we do things that are not as spiritual as we would like to be, it is like being aware of a bad habit. And when we catch ourselves being unspiritual, just change direction, mid-stream, so to speak.

Eventually, we should adopt the habits of a spiritual person without any thought whatsoever.

I was in a store today, that advertised housewares or something like that. All my thoughts of not needing material things flew out the window and I wished for a home with which I could decorate with those housewares. I had to remind myself that they are not important, and that it is society that dictates their importance.


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: Frog]
    #2437972 - 03/16/04 04:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Sure, everyone is a hypocrite to some degree. I try to stay positive about it though.. be aware of my opinions and such.. be as unhypocritical as I can be.


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2438091 - 03/16/04 06:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Honestly, I try as hard as I can not to be, but, yeah, sometimes I can be one too. But as so many pointed out, we all can be hypocritical at some times in our lives. But you know, willingness to admit it makes you far less of one, IMHO. :laugh:


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #2440149 - 03/16/04 06:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think people are often hypocritical because they (myself included from here on) don't truly understand what it is they believe in. They may believe heavily in one side of a subject, but just for a split instance the opposing side appeals to them. They say, or do something hypocritical, and then realize that what they did was wrong.

Unless you truly understand everything about yourself (which I don't think many people do) then you are going to be hypocritical on some occasions whether you mean to or not, despite how much you know you didn't mean what you said/did.


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: freddurgan]
    #2440200 - 03/16/04 06:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe its because there is always more than one side to an argument or situation. If you completely choose one side, and realize there are other points of view but disregard them you are automatically a hypocrite. The only way not to be one, would be to agree with everyside of a situation, and not really choose any path I guess, or to choose all paths. But then again, if you understand the other sides point of view, but still believe your side is better, that is not being hypocritical. Or if you are too ignorant to even realize the other side has a point and you completely believe in yours then you are also not hypocritical.

Hmmmm, with that said I guess I can consider myself non-hypocritical for the most part, but occasionally hypocritical depending on the issue i guess.  :smirk:


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Re: Who here is a hypocrite? [Re: Hahzist]
    #2440257 - 03/16/04 07:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, sometimes "hypocritical" is just a harsh way to say one can change their mind.

I also ~try~ to avoid using the fact that "everyone is hypocritical sometimes" as an excuse to be hypocritical.
I sometimes fail at that, too.


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