PreparationH said:

thirdtragedy said:

I have veterans benefits, I better take advantage of free college. That's why I go I see what you are saying. I assume most the people going to these expensive schools also get help from their families.

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I'm not paying for school yet, neither is my family.  Every year I take out a 9k loan and am in my second year.  When I graduate I'll be in around 50k of debt because my apartment over the next 2 years will run 12k on top of the original 36.

What branch of the military were you in?  Right now I'm majoring in health and fitness and if I don't get a job offer that I think is worth it, I'll be signing up for the marines or navy.  I have been told by marines in my classes that this is the way to go because I will become an officer and have a higher pay correct?  That's if I join the marines that is, I think the navy seals seems more for me because my brother served with them for 6 years and loved it.

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ShroomyMcPot said:

I went to college and could not get a job matching the degree I got. I settled for a different job that has nothing to do with my degree but uses some of the experience I got from the part time job I had while in college. The job also does not require a degree and probably could have gotten it without one although im pretty sure it did help my resume some. Most of the people on my team dont have degrees at all. It pays $46k a year and I dont really see a whole lot of upward mobility.

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Set said:

danielx said:

most degrees are worthless. I laugh at people spending money for art degrees.

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yeah, blame them for keeping education about idealism



you, sir, are part of the problem

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please, im just being realistic. Unless you like waiting tables.

PreparationH said:

ShroomyMcPot said:

I went to college and could not get a job matching the degree I got. I settled for a different job that has nothing to do with my degree but uses some of the experience I got from the part time job I had while in college. The job also does not require a degree and probably could have gotten it without one although im pretty sure it did help my resume some. Most of the people on my team dont have degrees at all. It pays $46k a year and I dont really see a whole lot of upward mobility.

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what was your major and were you willing to go anywhere on earth?

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My major was occupational safety. Its not a very common degree program and a lot of times people who aren't familiar with the field will think there isnt a market for safety pro's but, every company has safety people on staff. We find most of our employment in more dangerous professions such as manufacturing or construction but even office jobs have safety people because we are educated in ergonomics as well as legal liability and workmens comp type stuff. We also do the drug tests..

The location thing was actually an issue I believe. I was free to go wherever I wanted at first but then I got married and my wife is an officer in the military so I had to go where she was stationed. Unfortunately there isnt too many of any kind of job where I am at. And the few safety jobs I sent in resumes for wanted 3-5 years experience in the field, and being a new graduate they were not available to me.

supernovasky said:

Sweat said:

Not to mention my college ranks 7th in the nation for graduation rates and its only 40%. No comment on how colleges let this happen and still make the biggest buck.

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no way.

none of the Ivy league schools drop out more than 10% of their graduates.

Harvard is notorious for grade inflation.

This statistic, I do not believe.

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youbreakyoubuy said:

That's why we need high school counselor's to be more proactive in informing students of options that don't include a higher degree.

Also, every high schooler should come out of school with an elementary understanding of at least one trade.

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Sweat said:

you owe on average $100,000 to debts for a 4 year degree(actual average is $92,000 but damn close enough).

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