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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: RonPaulVerm]
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RonPaulVerm said:
I don't need to find useful information (at least not right now)
The purpose of this thread is for us to collaborate and share info with each other. I'm not in any specific need



you are, but you just don't realize it


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channel your inner Larry David

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: demiu5]
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i thought about it, but I guess it depends on "specific"


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Spawn I Have: Blewitt, Reishi, Maitake, Chicken of the Woods, Parasol, Shaggy Mane, King, Blue and Gold Oyster, Shiitake, King Stropharia, Lions Mane, Almond Portabello, Elm Oyster, Phoenix Oyster, Nameko, Enoki, White Beech,

Spawn I Want: Corcyceps Sp., Cauliflower Mushrooms, Agaricus species (Portobello), Pink Oyster, Piopinno, ...anything else you might have


Primitive Skills                                     

Any information I've posted is only related to fictional purposes. I do not advocate growing any illegal mushrooms 
...I DO advocate learning about
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: RonPaulVerm]
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RonPaulVerm said:
I went to a primitive skills gathering this past summer and met some people and learned some knowledge and had a blast.
I'm practicing making all sorts of tools for a more subjectively harmonious life with nature.
I don't like spending money like I used to and I dropped out of my prior learning  institution to learn to cultivate food and practice homeopathic medicine

There are many luxuries in this life and I'm by no means able to drop all of them at once. But slowly I'm learning to live without pleasures fueled by government/corporate business.

If you are trying to learn to build a fire without butane or gasoline, weaving a shirt with harvested fibers, growing plants, making moonshine, practicing herbal medicine, or hunting deer share your interests and progress.

I hope to get an active sub-community of people on here to help each other out with such tasks.




----I'll start by saying that I stopped an ensuing earache last night with a hot cloth dabbed with rosemary oil applied to my temple. A step in the right direction



no more shroomery.


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[quote]RogerRabbit said:
Ah, that explains it.  Typical know-it-all noob.  We get a few thousand just like you register here every year.  They try a few grows, fail miserably and then after a few months or one bad trip, go back to sniffing glue, never to be seen again.

We have a basic pf tek that's idiot proof enough for noobs to get fucked up with their friends. 

Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing.  They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end.  They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection.  These are the ones who will isolate strains, not the dumb fucks who treat mushrooms as a drug, or even worse, a pathogen, as if mushrooms cause disease.
RR [/quote]

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: RonPaulVerm]
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RonPaulVerm said:
i thought about it, but I guess it depends on "specific"




everyone will understand eventually

:shrug:


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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: RonPaulVerm]
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RonPaulVerm said:
hell yeah. Bowdrill! Awareness quiz: you're in the woods...you want to make a bowdrill. What kind of wood would you look for? What about cordage?


dr_gonz said:
any dry wood

shoelace



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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: Poid]
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"No more shroomery" hahaha
Well when people tell me I have to drop everything electric I tell them that I'm not ready. I grew up on Hot Pockets, Doritos, and Dr. Pepper. Saturday Morning Cartoons & Disney. So I wasn't taught how to even just survive I was taught how to get used to a system. It's not necessary to picture the system as "EVIL!" It is what it is.
Now I realize (and NOT just in a blink of an eye) that I am living in the lap of corporate luxury where banks rule and politics deceive. I don't care if people are making good or bad decisions for me....i want to be in control of my life and community. Psychedelics have also helped me realize the amount of control I am capable of. And by getting to know myself and the plants, fungi, and animals around me and how they make me who I am I can better myself at harmonious living.
And trust me I'm getting to know that life ain't easy. Only TV tells us it should be


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Spawn I Have: Blewitt, Reishi, Maitake, Chicken of the Woods, Parasol, Shaggy Mane, King, Blue and Gold Oyster, Shiitake, King Stropharia, Lions Mane, Almond Portabello, Elm Oyster, Phoenix Oyster, Nameko, Enoki, White Beech,

Spawn I Want: Corcyceps Sp., Cauliflower Mushrooms, Agaricus species (Portobello), Pink Oyster, Piopinno, ...anything else you might have


Primitive Skills                                     

Any information I've posted is only related to fictional purposes. I do not advocate growing any illegal mushrooms 
...I DO advocate learning about
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: RonPaulVerm]
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RonPaulVerm said:
i want to be in control of my...community.

:hitlerdance:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: Poid]
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hahahaha
Freudian Slip :facepalm:  JK

that totally came out wrong
I want to play a significant role (that doesn't mean lead) in the running of the community I'm a part of. You know, get involved in education, medicine, food, construction, etc instead of a distant government


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Spawn I Have: Blewitt, Reishi, Maitake, Chicken of the Woods, Parasol, Shaggy Mane, King, Blue and Gold Oyster, Shiitake, King Stropharia, Lions Mane, Almond Portabello, Elm Oyster, Phoenix Oyster, Nameko, Enoki, White Beech,

Spawn I Want: Corcyceps Sp., Cauliflower Mushrooms, Agaricus species (Portobello), Pink Oyster, Piopinno, ...anything else you might have


Primitive Skills                                     

Any information I've posted is only related to fictional purposes. I do not advocate growing any illegal mushrooms 
...I DO advocate learning about
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: RonPaulVerm]
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RonPaulVerm said:
I want to play a significant role (that doesn't mean lead) in the running of the community I'm a part of. You know, get involved in education, medicine, food, construction, etc instead of a distant government

And what will you do if a foreign power attempts to occupy your land? Who will you cry to? :crying:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: Poid]
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My family and friends.
Live free or DIE


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Spawn I Have: Blewitt, Reishi, Maitake, Chicken of the Woods, Parasol, Shaggy Mane, King, Blue and Gold Oyster, Shiitake, King Stropharia, Lions Mane, Almond Portabello, Elm Oyster, Phoenix Oyster, Nameko, Enoki, White Beech,

Spawn I Want: Corcyceps Sp., Cauliflower Mushrooms, Agaricus species (Portobello), Pink Oyster, Piopinno, ...anything else you might have


Primitive Skills                                     

Any information I've posted is only related to fictional purposes. I do not advocate growing any illegal mushrooms 
...I DO advocate learning about
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: RonPaulVerm]
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Isn't there a middle ground there somewhere? :archiebunker:


What if living free doesn't provide for a pleasurable life? :whacker:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: Poid]
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Gratitude is crucial for a pleasurable life...and dancing. haha

That's why I am SO thankful when I walk into a grocery store or Farmers Market.:heart:

and I ask you this (because I love this question)
Would you rather safe slavery or dangerous liberty....
not that that correlates exactly to what you're getting at, but that's where community comes in I guess.
I guess looking back at History people did that. And some people like Vikings supported each other by pillaging other communities. 

After some thought this came to mind: There will always be people who can't support themselves (for what reason...that's complicated), but there will also and has been in the past folks who can support themselves and community fairly well.
So as long as the system those incapable and uncomfortable people a part of doesn't affect the people who CAN find pleasure and comfort in a supporting community I'd say there is success.
But throughout most recent centuries that hasn't been the case




p.s. Have you heard of the book Ishmael?


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Spawn I Have: Blewitt, Reishi, Maitake, Chicken of the Woods, Parasol, Shaggy Mane, King, Blue and Gold Oyster, Shiitake, King Stropharia, Lions Mane, Almond Portabello, Elm Oyster, Phoenix Oyster, Nameko, Enoki, White Beech,

Spawn I Want: Corcyceps Sp., Cauliflower Mushrooms, Agaricus species (Portobello), Pink Oyster, Piopinno, ...anything else you might have


Primitive Skills                                     

Any information I've posted is only related to fictional purposes. I do not advocate growing any illegal mushrooms 
...I DO advocate learning about
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: RonPaulVerm]
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RonPaulVerm said:
Would you rather safe slavery or dangerous liberty....

I would rather have pleasurable slavery than agonizing liberty, and this is a point that the book Brave New World gets at. :wink:



RonPaulVerm said:
p.s. Have you heard of the book Ishmael?

No, what's it about?


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: Poid]
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Wikipedia has a decent summary:
Ishmael is a 1992 philosophical novel by Daniel Quinn. It examines mythology, its effect on ethics, and how that relates to sustainability. The novel uses a style of Socratic dialogue to deconstruct the notion that humans are the end product, the pinnacle of biological evolution. It posits that human supremacy is a cultural myth, and asserts that modern civilization is "enacting" that myth.


It talks a lot about humanity's role in the take over of the world. Mentioning specifics like agriculture and religion/mythology and government.


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Spawn I Have: Blewitt, Reishi, Maitake, Chicken of the Woods, Parasol, Shaggy Mane, King, Blue and Gold Oyster, Shiitake, King Stropharia, Lions Mane, Almond Portabello, Elm Oyster, Phoenix Oyster, Nameko, Enoki, White Beech,

Spawn I Want: Corcyceps Sp., Cauliflower Mushrooms, Agaricus species (Portobello), Pink Oyster, Piopinno, ...anything else you might have


Primitive Skills                                     

Any information I've posted is only related to fictional purposes. I do not advocate growing any illegal mushrooms 
...I DO advocate learning about
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: RonPaulVerm]
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Sounds interesting, thanks for the reference. :thumbup:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: Poid]
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I have Brave New World and it's next on my list actually. So thanks for the motivation


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Spawn I Have: Blewitt, Reishi, Maitake, Chicken of the Woods, Parasol, Shaggy Mane, King, Blue and Gold Oyster, Shiitake, King Stropharia, Lions Mane, Almond Portabello, Elm Oyster, Phoenix Oyster, Nameko, Enoki, White Beech,

Spawn I Want: Corcyceps Sp., Cauliflower Mushrooms, Agaricus species (Portobello), Pink Oyster, Piopinno, ...anything else you might have


Primitive Skills                                     

Any information I've posted is only related to fictional purposes. I do not advocate growing any illegal mushrooms 
...I DO advocate learning about
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: RonPaulVerm]
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:mypleasure:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: Poid]
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If my post is near yours enough I will catch poids

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: nice1]
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:satansmoking:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Share your Self-Sustaining Skills [Re: RonPaulVerm] * 1
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Ishmael is a fantastic book. I have a copy right here.

Me I've learned how to be a beekeeper..I have 3 hives in my backyard right now and hope to have at least 6 next summer by splitting the colonies into smaller units..I learned how to make mead (honey wine) and regular wine and where to locate free fruit to make it with within just a few miles of my home. Picked about $250 worth of fruit this summer most of which is in my freezer right now and the rest is in carboys or bottles.

I know how to increase the yields of crops by up to 50%, how to increase soil fertility naturally and sustainably, and am learning about herbalism. Right now I am collecting seeds for plants which can replace many pharmaceuticals should they become unavailable..chief among those are antiviral and antibacterial plants which can ward off virtually any new bug that comes along.

Things next on my list: making fire with bow drill and learning more about locating native plants for medicine and food. I think if there was a long-term breakdown of the food distribution network many people would starve or die of illness ironically surrounded by food plants which they never thought of as food.


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“The crisis takes a much longer time coming than you think, and then it happens much faster than you would have thought.”  -- Rudiger Dornbusch

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