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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #12]
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back in the day mothers you to have sex with there sons so they would stay around the farm to do chores and not chase tail

weird to us now but back then it was perfectly normal

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #1]
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#6, what you went through was fucked up and your mom shouldnt have done that.

Somehow I disbelieve it though, because I cant imagine being in the place of the guy who allegedly has no issue with boinking a woman with her preteen kid sleeping/watching in the same bed.
I honest to God would lose any and all appetite for having sex and I think almost all men are like that :sad:







OK #1 now as to you..

I have a simple answer for you. I'm sure you've been frustrated by someone before and had a vivid imagination of brutally butchering them on the spot.

Is that wrong?

Well its a "thought crime". The offense exists only in your brain, does not adversely affect other people. A "thought crime" is not a crime at all, not legally, not morally. The same goes for your fantasy. As long as it stays in your head, its a nonevent really.

But.. would it be wise to entertain the thought?

You might be opening Pandora's box (or well, Lolita's box) by masturbating on it. What if your desire towards it is strengthened? You might end up obsessed or more prone to take your fantasies into reality.

Child porn is an absolute 100% no no. First of all, kids were harmed in making that. Offenders were involved in distributing it. Thirdly, its no longer in your head then, its not a thought but an act, yes even if its an anime drawing. Masturbating on having sex with a real kid (say your neighbor's daughter) falls into this category of DON'T DO IT.

Ask yourself if it is good for you to do this. Really, really ask yourself that. If the personal risk to you is one you choose to take, and you keep it to a thought in your head, then its a "thought crime" and therefore nobodies business but your own.

Risks here are poisoning your mind which may lead to regrettible consequences in the real world. Remember you are flirting with pedophilia here, an urge many can't control resulting in them ruining lives of others as well as their own.


Oh, for background: I'm in my mid 30s, I was sexually abused at age six and my life is utterly ruined by it and the train of consequences resulting from it.What you sauy about it destroying the kid's life, you have no idea and can never imagine how true that is.

Edited by Anonymous (12/17/09 06:32 PM)

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #14]
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Lol Never said I had a fantasy.

HAHAHA - just posing a moral question - mmm - in this society I might just agree with you not to harbour those thoughts, but then again, trying to suppress thought usually brings worse consequences, where you eventually loose control of your mind.

The thing is that children are beautful, they are amazing creatures of all that is - I wish no harm to them, because harm is not beautiful, harm makes people look ugly. I think though that much of the harm from molestation comes from our societal idea's of sex....I think one of the worst parts of being molested is a sense of betrayel...enormous and the HATE that comes from that.....Is this possibly something that trouble's you???? What is it that you believe IT, the act of molestation has done to you that is devoid of any belief's which were also done unto to you, preconditioned, nurtured, etc???

I think in all experiences of emotional trauma comes an aspect of belief that is central to the severity of the aftermath...but I ask you, to see further, as I was never molested....

Can u please be so kind as to give me insight into your psyche, I find this challenging, to high extents that I enjoy, thanks man.

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #14]
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Anonymous #14 said:
But.. would it be wise to entertain the thought?

You might be opening Pandora's box

Ask yourself if it is good for you to do this. Really, really ask yourself that. If the personal risk to you is one you choose to take, and you keep it to a thought in your head, then its a "thought crime" and therefore nobodies business but your own.

Risks here are poisoning your mind which may lead to regrettible consequences in the real world. Remember you are flirting with pedophilia here, an urge many can't control resulting in them ruining lives of others as well as their own.




I think you should really read this over and think about it. I did.

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #15]
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Man, I wish you would just be more rational, instead of being afraid of some stupid urge....like honestly...not wanting to want to rape a kid...seriouslly...thats ridiculous....well not compleltly...I know my mind, better than anyone here...though from the looks of it, you all need to free your mind from religious shit...it stinks of it.

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Its actually pretty clear to me why I do not want to rape a kid...kids, like all beings, look ugly and stress me out when they do not want what they are getting, especially when it is physical and mental hurt.....I guesse if i believed in hell it would be a different story...makes sense, my bad if that other posts sounded harsh.

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #14]
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You are one lucky man!!! I cant even hold my moms hand...its fucking ridiculous...I also have so many useless and painful expectations of her because I cannot see the simple creature that she really is and all i see is this like supposed to be this and that person...your one lucky fuck...I have a horrible relationship with this person and yet I somehow lived most of my life with her...fuck forget my dad...thats a motherfucking huge even worse relationship....lucky fuck...your mind is so much easier to work with and will be for the rest of your life...FUCK you!! There...now we will be more even.

Thanks for sharing, btw...do it more often.

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Quote:
#1 said:
children are beautful, they are amazing creatures of all that is - I wish no harm to them, because harm is not beautiful, harm makes people look ugly.

kids, like all beings, look ugly and stress me out when they do not want what they are getting



This sounds to me like turmoil, you send a lot of conflicting signals here. Then you read religion into our words...
This is obviously a big thing for you, a source of inner conflict, thats why its quite important that you ask yourself whether it would be good to entertain such fantasies.

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #14]
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fuckin chomo

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #14]
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Anonymous #14 said:
#6, what you went through was fucked up and your mom shouldnt have done that.

Somehow I disbelieve it though, because I cant imagine being in the place of the guy who allegedly has no issue with boinking a woman with her preteen kid sleeping/watching in the same bed.
I honest to God would lose any and all appetite for having sex and I think almost all men are like that :sad:


This is the UK don't forget.
Where i grew up there are 52 pubs on the one street.
Not to mention the £2 pills.

And you never know. Raining all the time, small houses big families.
Might be more common than you think.

Having said all that.
If i were to have kids.
I would not go as far as she.
I wouldn't be quiet during love making.
I think it does a kid good to hear such things.
And i'd ask for some privacy if the kid walked in on us.

Each to there own i suppose.
I honestly feel sorry for the kids out there whom get all they know about sex from the TV or sex ed at school because their parents
A. don't have sex anymore or even kiss their partner
B. Never talk about sex.
C. Change the channel when sex is mentioned like they're trying to protect their kids innocence.

But like i said.

It's a moral delemer...

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #6]
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I guess a few posts back, saying that an I quote
Quote:
Lol Never said I had a fantasy.

  is to complicated for you to have understood. Meh, you were entertaining anyways, while it lasted, pretty predictable answer...let me guesse, you do not have much of an education??? Maximum a college diploma I presume, not the masters I have in psychology and philosophy.

I think you have to learn basic reading comprehension, it would benefit you.

anyways, any other takers?

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #14]
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Anonymous #14 said:
Thirdly, its no longer in your head then, its not a thought but an act, yes even if its an anime drawing.


Youre a moron. How is an anime porn real? and who is the victim?

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #17]
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^you know, as absurd as it sounds. A guy was convicted of child porn for making scenes out of The Simpsons.

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #15]
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in the united states? Im pretty sure "lolicon" is illegal is canada, but...

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #17]
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You are a pedophile. Please stay away from children.

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #17]
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Quote:
Youre a moron. How is an anime porn real? and who is the victim?



Using any kind of porn to support a fantasy is a form of taking it out of your head into the real world. Surfing for anime child porn is still surfing for child porn.


Quote:
Meh, you were entertaining anyways, while it lasted, pretty predictable answer...let me guesse, you do not have much of an education??? Maximum a college diploma I presume, not the masters I have in psychology and philosophy. :snub:



A philosophy master acting holier than thou, why does that not surprise me?

I'm sure they taught you to go suck a cock. That's my advice to you.

Edited by Anonymous (12/18/09 08:27 AM)

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #19]
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Anonymous #19 said:
ythan will promptly be reporting #1, and #6 to the police now.


hehe, just had to check that 6 wasn't me.

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #14]
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Look like I am right about your lack of education and it also looks like your a victim of society from what I can see, your still largely a homophobe...but you probally wouldnt be able to see that yet, so it was useless to have written that...

Lets break it down simply, 'go suck a cock' refers to something that you believe is disrespectful because you meant it as an insult. If this is a disrespectful act, then those who perform the act are disrespectful by virtue of this assumption you have been subject to by your society.

You will never learn anyways, people like you are walking in a dream world, hopefully death brings you a better perspective.

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Re: So its really messes a kid up if you molest them but what if you just want to.... [Re: Anonymous #1]
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For the record, I believe it is completly wrong to molest a child.

I made that clear from the beggining. This was meant to generate discussion surrounding this touchy issue, that is all. My question was largely surrounding a larger context; people who are molested sexually when they are younger, not only suffer greatly mentally, but also suffer with desires to molest.

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