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Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant)
    #8995877 -

I am married to a chick that I want to leave.  Being a reasonably moral and ethically minded person requires me to have a definite plan and some serious consideration.

Here lies the problem in its' myriad tangents:

I am married to a chick that for the last 3 years has absolutely zero sex drive.  I have sex less times in a year than you have fingers on one hand.  In order to have sex it requires me to do something pretty major (i.e. buying her a pair of 1000 dollar earrings).  If I buy her the earrings she'll be nice for 30-45 minutes, then she is bitchy again.

She has cheated on me and I caught her red handed (when she was horny).  I caught her fucking around with some ugly ass African guy.    I went with her and told her parents, since her parents consider her gold and can do no wrong.  They were PISSED I told them about it because :

A)  Apparently in Southern Maryland cheating on your spouse is as normal as missing a car payment.

B)  Everyone in her family has cheated on their spouse from grandparents on down and it is considered par for the course.

C)  Her uncle was seriously burned by his wife for when she caught him fucking around and she MAJORLY took him to the cleaners.  The rest of the family was pissed because she grew up in Southern MD and should have known and expected that cheating is expected and routine.

D) ALL women in her family have worked the living hell out of their respective husbands and they have died while the wives then live in comfort off the men and their pensions/work/investments.

E)  Her and her family treat her ex-husband like he is British royalty while I am treated like an ATM machine.  His/my wife's daughter needed braces and I paid 2500 bucks out of pocket to pay for it and he offers not a penny because he is under/unemployed most of the time.  I am chided into paying her bills but yet the broke ass real father is treated like Prince at a funk music convention.  I am treated like a negro at a KKK rally.

F)  I do all work around the house -- laundry, cleaning, mowing grass, washing dishes, vacuuming, etc.  The wife grocery shops and cooks but that is it.  The 14 year old step daughter has absolutely no chores.  Why?  Because my wife believes that a kid should have fun and not worry about such mundane things like chores.

G)  I make good money, like ~125K a year.  However, my wife needs more, more more.  I am constantly paying for things like designer clothes for the wife/kid while I shop at Wal-mart for my clothes.  The wife works to help pay her spending $$ but mainly for the insurance coverage she has which is golden.  Her daughter has a genetic disorder which requires very expensive medical bills and medicine which would cost a fortune out of pocket.  My wife gives me hell every day because she works and thinks that I should pay all the bills while she stays at home watching the Turner Classic Movie channel on satellite.

E)  In all honesty my wife doesn't care about my mushroom and marijuana use.  She never gives me hell about my NFL addiction either.  I have to give her credit there.


There is a lot more but I will leave it at that.



I love her, but I am being fucking used.

Do you agree?

Let me have it, one way or the other.

I need to hear it!!

Thank you all.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Uh... yes, you are obviously being used, and you know it already. I'm surprised that is the question you are asking. I thought it would be "how do I get out of this situation?" but I guess they really have you trained mentally.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #2]
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I am not a stupid person, but if you know the whole "frog in the boiling water" story maybe it will help you understand how I got here.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Yup, divorce that bitch.  You don't deserve to be treated that way; go out and get something good for yourself.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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That's harsh dude. You've definitly got to divorce her, and she is definitly gonna take half of your money. For starters you can be more assertive and stop giving in to her every demand...?

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I will never EVER get married because of shit like this.  Why should I enter into a legal arrangement that has a 50% failure rate and where the woman gets to take half or more of my stuff if it does fail?

NEVER get married fellas.  I saw my father have every speck of his worth taken away from him by women who sat on their asses and spent his money.  He died with nothing.  Every relationship started out the same; the woman initially supported herself and appeared industrious.  Then they slowly found a way to remove themselves from the workforce, have him pay for THEIR kids, and mooch as much as was possible.  I will never make the same mistakes that my father did.  EVER.

You're already fucked.  The courts will take everything you have and give it to her.  They will also require that you pay her money every month and support her daughter.  That 125k a year won't mean shit once you factor in your taxes, your lawyer costs, child support, and alimony.  You might as well be working for minimum wage.

The only thing I can say is that hopefully your example and the examples I have given act as a beacon to other young men out there.  DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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A)  There is no "frog in the boiling water" story when it comes to human relationships.

B)  Trust is, or should be, built over time, not all in a hurry when you don't have the skills to identify unsafe people because of insecurity or sexual desire.

C)  The larger issue is how you got here, not because you were unaware (even though you were), but how is it that you are/were unaware of her personality traits.  How did you miss the signs?  A person like her doesn't become bitchy over time as they lure you in unless you don't have the requisite relational insights to recognize her for what she is.  Trust me, the signs were there all along.  You just couldn't see them.

D)  You are exaggerating.  She's bad, but not as you make her out to be. (Or at least the impression of her you left with me)

E)  You sound like a bright guy with talent/skills at making money, but clueless in the relationship department.  Don't feel alone, most of us are like that, at first.  Later, if we apply ourselves to learning the traits to watch out for and allow trust to be built with healthy people over time, we eliminate forming unhealthy relationships with unhealthy people as we grow toward mental/emotional health/maturity.

F)  Your choices are obvious.  You will pay a price and are paying a price for not being more aware.  That happens.  You can cut your losses in the love department and pay out the ass in alimony/child support or you can continue to suffer in a loveless/sexless relationships taking it up the ass for as long as she'll want to use you.  A third choice would be to change the way you relate to her.  Stand your ground, be firm, but loving and wait/hope/pray for her to change.  Probably the bottom line is she won't and if you try to change a dynamic so ingrained it will permamently fracture an unhealthy relationship to the breaking point.

Be grateful you didn't father any children with this bitch.  There are beautiful, loving, kind, thoughtful partners out there waiting for a man like you once you can get to the point of seeing/recognizing them instead of the selfless, self-centered, egotistical bitches that will make your life a living hell.

Get busy, learn to find good people and strive to grow yourself into a person that enjoys loving and being loved by healthy people.  It's a long road with no shortcuts.

Be well.  :peace:

#5  It looks like you could also use some lessons in finding a good partner.  We men are usually morons in the relationship department.  Take it to the bank, healthy people attract healthy people, the inverse is true as well.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #5]
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Damn, #5, that's really harsh... I totally agree with a lot of it, but I think we should be trying to offer some criticism that's a little bit more constructive.

#1 (OP), is there any way you can talk to a lawyer about this? Please do before you let your wife know that it's time to end it. The last thing you want is for her to enter combat mode before you're fully prepared.

I think that with your financial situation, you can find a strong enough lawyer to keep a lot of money in your pocket, instead of in her purse, especially because husband 1.0 is still in the picture.

Take this to the professionals! $120 an hour will seem like it's worth it when you're not getting your blood sucked out!

By the way, if that ugly African comment was an anti-black slant, then fuck you. Otherwise, you should kicked the hell out of that ugly African.

-Another Ugly African

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #7]
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Well i have some fucking advice for you  my friend. This is going to be hard on you but trust my anonymous ass.

First let me say this is going to be very hard on you, accept that. You have to get a divorce.


Start by boosting your Alpha Male Status (AMS.)acceptable study material is as follows:

Listen daily
Browse these archives
google results for "being a man"


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now for the real part...

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Before divorce is seriously in her sights you need to protect your wealth assuming your lawyer fails and you get fucking soaked by some bull dyke judge. you can do this by funneling your assets into an offshore account in grand cayman, Swissland, etc. This shit isnt just in the movies. Many americans do this, and reap a hefty reward, just be sure to do your homework.

    You can accomplish this feat without getting caught, you just need to confront the paper trail left by your cheque stubs, or other proof of income. Do this by saving receipts of anything you and her spend money on, but especially saving receipts of things SHE spends money on ( or the kid. ) Now convince her to only buy things using cash. ITs easily done, just leave her cash on hand all the time and if you can, try to "borrow" her credit and debit cards indefinitely. Just make sure she has tonnes of cash in her purse to spend on whatever she needs.
She wont wonder where her plastic money went. Now total the receipts you have saved and put an equal amount of money into your off shore account. Correspondence with the offshore institution should be done with a po box no one knows about and prepaid cell phones. Hide your tracks.

Get as much of YOUR money in this account as you can. Set a time table of three years or so and protect those receipts in a safety deposit box in a bank where you dont share accounts with her.

Now that you have an offshore account, your ready to start taking some trips to Vegas. Whatever excess cash you cant backup with receipts you have and want to be immune from divorce proceedings can be easily rescued by the wonders of LAS fucking Vegas. Go there, take out what ever excess cash you can ( like your whole fucking savings ) and get it into your off shore account via whatever means possible. Again, i cant tell you all my secrets, just do your homework and you can figure it out. Make it look like you lost your assets gambling.

Now stop making payments on your house. The goal is to have it go into foreclosure at about the time you are getting divorced. you need it to look like you lost your mind or had a nervous breakdown. This will provide a premise for divorce and will keep the wife/court from investigating where all the money really went. Liquidate all of your assets throught this process. You will come out ahead rather than going through a normal divorce.
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once your done getting divorced, you will need to start paying her.. this is almost inevitable as long as you are still making 125 k a year. Hopefully you have embezzled enough of your hard earned cash to live your life off your salary as you wish and use the hidden funds to make your payments to her.


meet a new girl. Try one from the mid west.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #8]
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Haha.. this post is fucking awesome...

Glad I'm not in this situation, but shit, I would be ROCKIN' that advice if I was.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Thanx #2

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #8]
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OP here.  Some replies:

1)  The ugly African remark was not an anti-black slant.  If so I would have/could have used much harsher language.

2)  We have no children together.  She has a daughter from a previous marriage.  Meaning, she cannot get me for alimony/child support.

3)  I am self-employed, so she cannot just tack an order for my income at my job site.    I can work as much or as little as I want and most of the dough is through individual contracts that are not long term.

4)  Thanks for all the responses thus far.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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that bitch needs to have an accident.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
OP here.  Some replies:

1)  The ugly African remark was not an anti-black slant.  If so I would have/could have used much harsher language.

2)  We have no children together.  She has a daughter from a previous marriage.  Meaning, she cannot get me for alimony/child support.

3)  I am self-employed, so she cannot just tack an order for my income at my job site.    I can work as much or as little as I want and most of the dough is through individual contracts that are not long term.

4)  Thanks for all the responses thus far.



All of your legitimate income ends up in a bank account or will be issued in a w-4 and will be visible to a judge.


I am suggesting a way you can make that legitimate income look spent when in reality you are hiding it.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #8]
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# 8 you have some interesting points/references.    I definitely have some homework to do.

I admit I am a complete moron when it comes to relationships.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8997016 -

kill her, you know you hate her and you want to do it.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
2)  We have no children together.  She has a daughter from a previous marriage.  Meaning, she cannot get me for alimony/child support.




For your sake, I sincerely hope that is true.  Hopefully, you didn't adopt this girl.  If you did then you are legally responsible for her.  But, even if you didn't adopt her some judges in some states will still make you cough up money for the kid...even though said kid isn't yours.  There are many cases around the US of men being forced to pay for children that aren't theirs (even after the proof of a paternity test).  In many state courts the interests of a child oftentimes outweigh the man's interests.

I would talk to a lawyer and find a way to stash money and get shit out of your name so she can't take it all.  Good divorce lawyers are easily $150 an hour (and that's cheap) but it could save you literally tens of thousands of dollars in the long run.

Sorry for my earlier cynical post but everything I said was true.  I genuinely feel sorry for guys like you.  I'm not saying all women are money-grubbing but a sizeable percentage of them are.  The thing is they don't even know they're doing it.  It starts out with them being a little lazy and mooching a little.  They feel completely normal and justified in doing what they do.  Then the levels of mooching and laziness only continue to get greater.  The trend never reverses itself.

Good luck man.  Hopefully you can extricate yourself from this situation with enough money to buy a sports car and proceed to bang 20 year-olds.  :thumbup:

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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If this is a fake thread, you're a Douche! :mad2:

If this is a real thread, you're a Douche! :mad2:

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #8]
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Quote:
Anonymous #8 said:meet a new girl. Try one from the mid west.



Curious, could you elaborate on this??

I already hide my dough (always have) and live a very frugal/non-conspicuous lifestyle.  I drive a car with 175K miles on it and it has been paid off for years.

I have no expensive toys or hobbies.  I like top-notch weed but that's it. 

I have always kept a low profile financially and have never told my wife how much I make.  She has nary a clue.

This may sound completely stupid but I've always been enamored by the character on the TV show "Kung Fu" who travels bare foot and carries only a small satchel which has all his earthly belongings.

I abhor debt and make very careful decisions regarding spending of $$.  If you met me and looked at me you would guess I earned a small/modest income.

Over a decade ago when I met my wife she was wonderful.  She had a sense of humor and a trait for sexual filthiness like a guy does. She was never bitter, was in GREAT shape (she's gained 60+ pounds since then) and enjoyed life.

I guess 11-12 years go by and anyone can become a completely different person.


In all honesty I believe I should approach her about counseling.  We've never tried that and perhaps all marriages need a "tune up" every now and again.    I reckon I should give a try to fix things rather than just bailing.    Admittedly when I wrote my initial post I was madder than Hell but now I've slept on it and am more level-headed (and sober).

I sincerely appreciate all responses and #8 you are clearly a man who has his shit nailed down tight!
:thumbup:

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #5]
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Anonymous #5 said:
Anonymous #1 said:
2)  We have no children together.  She has a daughter from a previous marriage.  Meaning, she cannot get me for alimony/child support.




For your sake, I sincerely hope that is true.  Hopefully, you didn't adopt this girl.  If you did then you are legally responsible for her.  But, even if you didn't adopt her some judges in some states will still make you cough up money for the kid...even though said kid isn't yours.  There are many cases around the US of men being forced to pay for children that aren't theirs (even after the proof of a paternity test).  In many state courts the interests of a child oftentimes outweigh the man's interests.

I would talk to a lawyer and find a way to stash money and get shit out of your name so she can't take it all.  Good divorce lawyers are easily $150 an hour (and that's cheap) but it could save you literally tens of thousands of dollars in the long run.

Sorry for my earlier cynical post but everything I said was true.  I genuinely feel sorry for guys like you.  I'm not saying all women are money-grubbing but a sizeable percentage of them are.  The thing is they don't even know they're doing it.  It starts out with them being a little lazy and mooching a little.  They feel completely normal and justified in doing what they do.  Then the levels of mooching and laziness only continue to get greater.  The trend never reverses itself.

Good luck man.  Hopefully you can extricate yourself from this situation with enough money to buy a sports car and proceed to bang 20 year-olds.  :thumbup:




I have not adopted her and truly we have no children together.  Admittedly, I care for the step-daughter as if she were my own.

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