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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Dude, Fuck that shit man, Never would i let such a woman use me as such and then take half of my stuff.

Just leave, no divorce..... just a letter saying fuck you.
leave the country if you have too

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
I already hide my dough (always have) and live a very frugal/non-conspicuous lifestyle.  I drive a car with 175K miles on it and it has been paid off for years.

I have always kept a low profile financially and have never told my wife how much I make.  She has nary a clue.




Living frugally and hiding dough doesn't mean shit.  During divorce proceedings she will get ahold of your tax returns and see "$125,000" written on your income line (that is if you are reporting all of your income).  In most states assets are split 50/50 with the poorer spouse getting monthly support on top of that.  That 50/50 split applies to all property and all past income.  That's right folks...she is allowed to take the equivalent of half of your income throughout all of your married years.


Anonymous #1 said:
Over a decade ago when I met my wife she was wonderful.  She had a sense of humor and a trait for sexual filthiness like a guy does. She was never bitter, was in GREAT shape (she's gained 60+ pounds since then) and enjoyed life.



It happens man.  They just stop giving a fuck and let themselves go.  Not only physically but emotionally and in every other way.  They don't have to take care of themselves anymore because they already landed a guy.  Sure, those first couple of years are fun but then they often get fat, lazy, and bitchy.


Anonymous #1 said:
In all honesty I believe I should approach her about counseling.  We've never tried that and perhaps all marriages need a "tune up" every now and again.    I reckon I should give a try to fix things rather than just bailing. 



That is admirable.  But, is it realistic?  Do you honestly see her changing her ways?  Can you honestly see her turning into that vivacious woman you once knew?  Can you honestly see her breaking the mold of the females in her family and not being a total waste?  If somebody is lazy....they're lazy.  That doesn't change.  Sure, if you bring it up they might change for a week then it goes back to the way it was.

I would say that you should pursue one of these two possible avenues:

1.  Quietly start planning your escape.

2.  Grow a backbone and lay the smack down.  Tell the woman that you aren't giving her any more money and that she is going to stop being such a waste or else.  But, this might tip your hand if you one day want to attempt #1.

I dunno man....tough call.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #8]
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Anonymous #8 said:
Well i have some fucking advice for you  my friend. This is going to be hard on you but trust my anonymous ass.

First let me say this is going to be very hard on you, accept that. You have to get a divorce.


Start by boosting your Alpha Male Status (AMS.)acceptable study material is as follows:

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Browse these archives
google results for "being a man"


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now for the real part...

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Before divorce is seriously in her sights you need to protect your wealth assuming your lawyer fails and you get fucking soaked by some bull dyke judge. you can do this by funneling your assets into an offshore account in grand cayman, Swissland, etc. This shit isnt just in the movies. Many americans do this, and reap a hefty reward, just be sure to do your homework.

    You can accomplish this feat without getting caught, you just need to confront the paper trail left by your cheque stubs, or other proof of income. Do this by saving receipts of anything you and her spend money on, but especially saving receipts of things SHE spends money on ( or the kid. ) Now convince her to only buy things using cash. ITs easily done, just leave her cash on hand all the time and if you can, try to "borrow" her credit and debit cards indefinitely. Just make sure she has tonnes of cash in her purse to spend on whatever she needs.
She wont wonder where her plastic money went. Now total the receipts you have saved and put an equal amount of money into your off shore account. Correspondence with the offshore institution should be done with a po box no one knows about and prepaid cell phones. Hide your tracks.

Get as much of YOUR money in this account as you can. Set a time table of three years or so and protect those receipts in a safety deposit box in a bank where you dont share accounts with her.

Now that you have an offshore account, your ready to start taking some trips to Vegas. Whatever excess cash you cant backup with receipts you have and want to be immune from divorce proceedings can be easily rescued by the wonders of LAS fucking Vegas. Go there, take out what ever excess cash you can ( like your whole fucking savings ) and get it into your off shore account via whatever means possible. Again, i cant tell you all my secrets, just do your homework and you can figure it out. Make it look like you lost your assets gambling.

Now stop making payments on your house. The goal is to have it go into foreclosure at about the time you are getting divorced. you need it to look like you lost your mind or had a nervous breakdown. This will provide a premise for divorce and will keep the wife/court from investigating where all the money really went. Liquidate all of your assets throught this process. You will come out ahead rather than going through a normal divorce.
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once your done getting divorced, you will need to start paying her.. this is almost inevitable as long as you are still making 125 k a year. Hopefully you have embezzled enough of your hard earned cash to live your life off your salary as you wish and use the hidden funds to make your payments to her.


meet a new girl. Try one from the mid west.




QFMFT

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
In all honesty I believe I should approach her about counseling.  We've never tried that and perhaps all marriages need a "tune up" every now and again.    I reckon I should give a try to fix things rather than just bailing.    Admittedly when I wrote my initial post I was madder than Hell but now I've slept on it and am more level-headed (and sober).




I hope no other disillusioned males read this because it's important.  Clearly, you are torn.  Which means you haven't reached the end of your rope yet.  Long before anyone gets there they would, if they are in their right mind, want to salvage a relationship they have invested so much in.  But the flaw is in thinking marriage counseling will work.  I don't have exact statistics but normally marriage counseling doesn't work.  It is the prelude to divorce.  And it is very expensive.  There is only one way to know that personally, be there.  I have.  Oftentimes people will turn to "experts" to fix their problems.  Ever been to a mechanic that fucked up your car or overcharged you for something you could have done yourself?  How will you know in advance which type of marital counseling has the highest rate of success?  Especially if you're a relationship moron like the rest of us?  You won't.  And the likelihood of being taken to the cleaners by some pseudo-intellectual bullshit artist with some letters after their name is very, very high.  This isn't a car at stake here, it's your life, the very center of it.

8's advice is spot on in the financial realm as far as I can see.  Then again, finances aren't my specialty, relationship messes are. I've been in them, lived through them and have a pretty good handle on determining when it is too late to salvage a relationship.  From the limited information you have given us I cannot tell if yours is salvagable or not.

Best of luck in this.  I'll be monitoring this thread to see if there are other ways I can help.

Hang tough, brother.  Others have been where you are and live good lives today.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Kill her. Bury her body in the backyard. It's the only way.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Quote:
Curious, could you elaborate on this??



Ive had horrible experiance with east coast girls, I bet you would fall instantly in love with a new girl from the midwest or south that just loves doing all of the shit you expect out of a loving wife, including cooking lasagna, blowjobs in the morning, and taking a deep breath before verbally abusing you for leaving socks in the bathroom.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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This bitch is why god created deserts and shovels. Take down any illegal shit you have, wait a couple weeks, and punch her in the pussy. Drop the succubus. She cheated on you and violated your marriage you don't owe her shit.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I've been there.  Luckily I've been with a great woman for 9 years now and when we had major problems we worked them out.  One makor proble was a lack of sex and interest in each other.  We started swinging.  We play together mostly, like threesomes and foursomes but sometimes we play separately.  It fixed the underlying problem instead of remedying symptoms.

Good luck you'll need it.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I don't think you love her. It sounds like you've got used to being with her.

If I were in your position I would make break for it and start over. If you're financially stable you should not have a problem doing this. Move out of the country, travel, hitch hike, do every little dream you've ever had. You'll meet new girls on the journey and make friends fast.

It sounds like you need to be a little more selfish with your life.

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Re: Hey Shroomerites, I need some serious advice/talking to here. (long vent/rant) [Re: Anonymous #16]
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if you don't follow the financial advice giving in this thread your fucked in divorce. They take a percentage of ur pay check, dad made 80 k a year, now after the divorce he has 80 bucks a weeks after bills spousal support child support

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