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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: The_Ghost]
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EXACTLY!! ^

the function of our minds -- our conscious minds, the thing in us which organizes and makes sense of things ... it does so by SUPPRESSING chaos
it is the counter to this naturally turbulent flow


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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
EXACTLY!! ^

the function of our minds -- our conscious minds, the thing in us which organizes and makes sense of things ... it does so by SUPPRESSING chaos
it is the counter to this naturally turbulent flow


Nothing suppresses chaos. It is chaos that reigns!

Did you not listen to the fox?


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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: Life Upon Death]
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if Chaos/Deceit(which I believe are one in the same at the essence level) is an entity then you have realize that something that is beyond our current dimension is manipulating us and has already accounted for many of the conclusions we naturally come too and has incorporated this into its "design"

it means that truly finding the truth requires diligence and truly honest contemplation(self honesty as well as an awareness of certain flaws which lead us to believe things because of what we want to be true)

to find the truth in this senario requires a hacking of not only your own mind but the collective mind of humanity

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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: Life Upon Death]
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you associate chaos with deciet?

we are not talking about the same chaos

i'm talking about the chaos which governs the unfolding of a smoke cloud
not some kind of entropy principle


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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: Life Upon Death]
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Life Upon Death said:
if Chaos/Deceit(which I believe are one in the same at the essence level) is an entity then you have realize that something that is beyond our current dimension is manipulating us and has already accounted for many of the conclusions we naturally come too and has incorporated this into its "design"

it means that truly finding the truth requires diligence and truly honest contemplation(self honesty as well as an awareness of certain flaws which lead us to believe things because of what we want to be true)

to find the truth in this senario requires a hacking of not only your own mind but the collective mind of humanity


So, what is your definition for chaos? Is chaos the devil?


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Edited by Mnboardin (11/15/09 11:06 PM)

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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: laserpig]
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The 'chaos which governs the unfolding of a smoke cloud' is the same chaos that is described in the entropy principle.  Deceit has nothing to do with chaos.

What are you getting at?

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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: Mnboardin]
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Mnboardin said:
Life Upon Death said:
if Chaos/Deceit(which I believe are one in the same at the essence level) is an entity then you have realize that something that is beyond our current dimension is manipulating us and has already accounted for many of the conclusions we naturally come too and has incorporated this into its "design"

it means that truly finding the truth requires diligence and truly honest contemplation(self honesty as well as an awareness of certain flaws which lead us to believe things because of what we want to be true)

to find the truth in this senario requires a hacking of not only your own mind but the collective mind of humanity


So, what is your definition for chaos? Is chaos the devil?


existence collapsing on itself

without some type of structure nothing could exist within our reality

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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: Life Upon Death]
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Life Upon Death said:
Mnboardin said:
Life Upon Death said:
if Chaos/Deceit(which I believe are one in the same at the essence level) is an entity then you have realize that something that is beyond our current dimension is manipulating us and has already accounted for many of the conclusions we naturally come too and has incorporated this into its "design"

it means that truly finding the truth requires diligence and truly honest contemplation(self honesty as well as an awareness of certain flaws which lead us to believe things because of what we want to be true)

to find the truth in this senario requires a hacking of not only your own mind but the collective mind of humanity


So, what is your definition for chaos? Is chaos the devil?


existence collapsing on itself

without some type of structure nothing could exist within our reality


Well, the fox states that chaos reigns. How do you account for that?


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Edited by Mnboardin (11/15/09 11:09 PM)

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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: Mnboardin]
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The fox?  Fox "News"?

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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: BothHands]
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BothHands said:
The fox?  Fox "News"?


Watch the video I posted earlier in the thread.


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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: Mnboardin]
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Mnboardin said:
Life Upon Death said:
Mnboardin said:
Life Upon Death said:
if Chaos/Deceit(which I believe are one in the same at the essence level) is an entity then you have realize that something that is beyond our current dimension is manipulating us and has already accounted for many of the conclusions we naturally come too and has incorporated this into its "design"

it means that truly finding the truth requires diligence and truly honest contemplation(self honesty as well as an awareness of certain flaws which lead us to believe things because of what we want to be true)

to find the truth in this senario requires a hacking of not only your own mind but the collective mind of humanity


So, what is your definition for chaos? Is chaos the devil?


existence collapsing on itself

without some type of structure nothing could exist within our reality


Well, the fox states that chaos reigns. How do you account for that?


I don't know who the fox is but Chaos is in control of this world

everything is dying/unraveling

life and death are in a battle and death is in the lead

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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: Life Upon Death]
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Lifeupondeath, why do you think death is in the lead?


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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: Mnboardin]
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Quote:
Watch the video I posted earlier in the thread.


Are you joking?  How old are you?  16?

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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: Mnboardin]
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Mnboardin said:
Lifeupondeath, why do you think death is in the lead?


we are upsetting the natural balance of this world more and more everyday

doing what is contrary to what is truly positive because of desire

species are going extinct and the universe is on a collision course with death

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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: BothHands]
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]BothHands said:
Quote:
Watch the video I posted earlier in the thread.


Are you joking?  How old are you?  16?


Joking about what?

What makes you think I'm young?


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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: Mnboardin]
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Ok, well, thread hidden.  Post again when you're done with your cryptic pseudo-intellectual "I'm cool and deep" crap.

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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: Life Upon Death]
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this is from a really good Russian Orthodox prophecy

I'm not normally into modern prophecy but this one I like:

    "The Lord created all living things in line with a very specific system, where the actions of even the minutest fragment of the Universe impact the life of the entire Universe.
    Actions of the unreasonable beasts cannot cause harm to the Universe. They are limited by their instincts and self-regulating attributes of Nature itself in the manner of brakes.
    But with Man, created by God in His own similitude - is quite another matter. Not only actions, but the very thoughts of Man impact the surrounding medium, the environment, all the Universe. It was not the Lord that wiped off the face of the Earth Sodom and Gomorrah but sinful Man. What I imply here is that all tragedies that strike man and Nature are not consequences of the Lord's wrath, for He is All-Merciful. These tragedies occur as a direct outcome of the detrimental actions of mankind itself, led astray by the wiles of the devils."

http://www.vor.ru/English/Christian_Message/program.phtml?act=60

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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: BothHands]
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BothHands said:
Ok, well, thread hidden.  Post again when you're done with your cryptic pseudo-intellectual "I'm cool and deep" crap.


:confused:


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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: BothHands]
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BothHands said:
The 'chaos which governs the unfolding of a smoke cloud' is the same chaos that is described in the entropy principle. 


you're right -- i was remiss in saying "not entropy"

all i can do is make a sweep
pull my hand quick or slow
make a curl in the flow
see my sig?

language is the liquid

this is not a structure floating baseless in space
a sentence is distinct insofar as you can identify it as a thing
but if you want to take all the facts in to account then you've got no choice but to admit that a sentence is just one little curl that i can set up and send out for you to catch
it only exists as an interaction between us
and if you know that then there's a hell of a lot you now need to consider, and it goes FAR beyond what anyone would normally call "the meaning of a sentence"

i lost my train of thought but

whatever :discorex:


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Re: you've got to understand chaos [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
BothHands said:
The 'chaos which governs the unfolding of a smoke cloud' is the same chaos that is described in the entropy principle. 


you're right -- i was remiss in saying "not entropy"

all i can do is make a sweep
pull my hand quick or slow
make a curl in the flow
see my sig?

language is the liquid

this is not a structure floating baseless in space
a sentence is distinct insofar as you can identify it as a thing
but if you want to take all the facts in to account then you've got no choice but to admit that a sentence is just one little curl that i can set up and send out for you to catch
it only exists as an interaction between us
and if you know that then there's a hell of a lot you now need to consider, and it goes FAR beyond what anyone would normally call "the meaning of a sentence"

i lost my train of thought but

whatever :discorex:


Point being.. language is a highly flawed means of communicating eternal concepts.


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