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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: learningtofly]
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Gee, so...the vocals and lyrics are the focus, yet the quality of the voice doesn't matter at all?  It sounds like it's your taste in music which is the fail. 

And I didn't even mention the quality of a person's voice, I said the quality of the music is in question since it is vocally focused music but there is little to no melodic content in the delivery of the vocals.

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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: MR14]
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Deltron 3030, way past the millennium.


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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: Viveka]
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Viveka said:
The focus is the vocal element, which is essentially a toneless drone(rap) about subjects that are usually an ego posturing of some sort.


Ughhh. Did you listen to any the of the songs I posted? Listen to the first one, its some of the most conscious and intelligent hip hop you'll ever hear. Definitely no ego posturing involved.

Viveka said:
so...the vocals and lyrics are the focus, yet the quality of the voice doesn't matter at all?


For me hip hop is like 60% beats and 40% lyrics. You can't have a good rap song without a good beat behind it. And these beats might be more intricate than you think, the art of sampling is a whole nother can of worms. My favorite type of music ever is actually "instrumental hip hop". Beats ya dig?





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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: skunkape]
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Hip hop's not dead, it just sucks.

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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
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tiny_rabid_birds said:
skunkape, you wouldn't happen to have a youtube playlist of this sort of hip hop would you?  like with assorted artists.  that would be handy.


Im afraid I don't. I'm not even sure how to go about making one on youtube. I could .rar up a mix then upload it if you'd like?


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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: Gumby]
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Gumby said:
Hip hop's not dead, it just sucks.


You're prolly just not cool enough for hip hop  :smirk:


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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: skunkape]
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I don't think hip hop ever existed.


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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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Hip Hop is a Jewish plot! :tinfoil:


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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: skunkape]
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I used to listen to it. Then I moved to Newark. Now everytime I hear hiphop or rap it feels like someone's driving nails into my ear drums.

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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: Gumby]
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Gumby said:
I used to listen to it. Then I moved to Newark. Now everytime I hear hiphop or rap it feels like someone's driving nails into my ear drums.


So that's why it feels like my scrotum's in a vice every time I hear Kanye.


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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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Yeah, living in a hood ass town will do that to ya.

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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: skunkape]
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Ughhh. Did you listen to any the of the songs I posted? Listen to the first one, its some of the most conscious and intelligent hip hop you'll ever hear. Definitely no ego posturing involved.


I listened to them all, for the most part.  My gripe really isn't so much with the lyrics as it is the predictable, repetitive and generally non adventurous nature of the music.  Those last two tracks you posted, the second was definitely better and almost interesting, if not for the way it's predictably sequenced out and never really goes anywhere.

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For me hip hop is like 60% beats and 40% lyrics. You can't have a good rap song without a good beat behind it. And these beats might be more intricate than you think, the art of sampling is a whole nother can of worms. My favorite type of music ever is actually "instrumental hip hop". Beats ya dig?


"Beats".  When someone says that I basically know how it's going to sound before I even hear it.  And it's always either a four or eight beat measure isn't it?  It's a "safe" form of music like "punk" or most electronic dance music.  You don't have to adapt your expectations or taste at all to get into it.

I like some industrial stuff like KMFDM, which is similar to hip-hop in a lot of ways.  But considering most of the other music I like, I consider KMFDM to be near bottom of the barrel musically.  And I think KMFDM is heaps more creative and musical than most hip hop I've ever heard.

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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: Viveka]
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Viveka said:
"Beats".  When someone says that I basically know how it's going to sound before I even hear it.  And it's always either a four or eight beat measure isn't it?  It's a "safe" form of music like "punk" or most electronic dance music.  You don't have to adapt your expectations or taste at all to get into it.



I sort of see your point, and from a certain perspective there isn't a whole lot of variety to it, but I think it's just about appreciating certain aspects of it that you probably either just don't get or have gotten bored of after switching to more adventurous styles. I listened to it while growing up but have since gotten more into psychedelia rock and the more aggressive forms of punk which border on metal, but aren't quite incoherent screaming. I'm also finding a lot of the older classical music from all the famous composers really interesting.


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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: bryguy]
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cash rules everything around me, C.R.E.A.M.
get the money. dolla dolla bill yallllllll

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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: blazenn]
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blazenn said:
cash rules everything around me, C.R.E.A.M.
get the money. dolla dolla bill yallllllll


Cream is the shit:


...that song your quoting isn't too bad, either.


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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
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If you are good at concealing laughter and contempt, you should ask a white person about “Real Hip Hop.”  They will quickly tell you about how they don’t listen to “Commercial Hip Hop” (aka music that black people actually enjoy), and that they much prefer “Classic Hip Hop.”

“I don’t listen to that commercial stuff. I’m more into the Real Hip Hop, you know?  KRS One, Del Tha Funkee Homosapien, De La Soul, Wu Tang, Tupac, Biggie, you know, The Old School.”

Calling this style of music ‘old school’ is considered an especially apt name since the majority of people who listen to it did so while attending old schools such as Dartmouth, Bard, and Williams College.

What it all comes down to is that white people are convinced that if they were alive when this music was relevant that they would have been into it.  They would have been Alan Lomax or Rick Rubin.  Now the best they can hope for is to impress an older black person with their knowledge.

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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: skunkape]
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Sage mothuh fuckin francis!!!! yalllll!
haha
shit underground is my life!
cecil otter.
busdriver.
atmosphere.
dan le sac VS scroobius pip.
krs1.
toooo many to name!!!
i was supposed to see immortal technique tonight but i had some car trouble..


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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: skunkape]
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skunkape said:
tiny_rabid_birds said:
skunkape, you wouldn't happen to have a youtube playlist of this sort of hip hop would you?  like with assorted artists.  that would be handy.


Im afraid I don't. I'm not even sure how to go about making one on youtube. I could .rar up a mix then upload it if you'd like?


totally man, that'd be friggin awesome.


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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: purified]
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purified said:
If you are good at concealing laughter and contempt, you should ask a white person about �Real Hip Hop.�  They will quickly tell you about how they don�t listen to �Commercial Hip Hop� (aka music that black people actually enjoy), and that they much prefer �Classic Hip Hop.�

�I don�t listen to that commercial stuff. I�m more into the Real Hip Hop, you know?  KRS One, Del Tha Funkee Homosapien, De La Soul, Wu Tang, Tupac, Biggie, you know, The Old School.�

Calling this style of music �old school� is considered an especially apt name since the majority of people who listen to it did so while attending old schools such as Dartmouth, Bard, and Williams College.

What it all comes down to is that white people are convinced that if they were alive when this music was relevant that they would have been into it.  They would have been Alan Lomax or Rick Rubin.  Now the best they can hope for is to impress an older black person with their knowledge.


now you're just trying to hard man
honestly nobody that listens to hiphop gives a fuck what people who don't like it say

"good music is good music and that should be enough for anybody"-brad nowell
i have to say that quote too much, but it holds the truth

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Re: If you think hip hop is dead, then you sir, are a fool [Re: blazenn]
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FUCK EARTH...
i wanna live on mars
so i'm closer to the stars
and farther away from dump civilization
with no mental stimulation


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