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Re: first time with coir [Re: gus330]
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you can add used coffee grounds..


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Re: first time with coir [Re: gus330]
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all just coir and WBS  but you can add things if you want


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Re: first time with coir [Re: rovert]
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I never added anything.  I think coffee increases contamination rate.  Just an opinion though.  I wouldn't bother unless you are really doing things right.

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Re: first time with coir [Re: Terillius]
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thanks for the response and that's what I'm going to do is just strait coir it sound easy  do you get as many flushes of coir than you do on hpoo


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Re: first time with coir [Re: feelfunny]
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was that ms or lc and what size mono is that


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Re: first time with coir [Re: gus330]
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gus330 said:
was that ms or lc and what size mono is that



wondering the same thing, but also never heard that contam rates go up when using coffee grinds? Is that true?

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Re: first time with coir [Re: gus330]
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It goes around that hpoo is ideal for mushrooms and that may be true given that mushrooms have evolved around using shit for breakfast and not coir, but scientifically they are very similar and practically they produce similar results.  Coir is MUCH easier to use for the newbie and said newbie isn't going to be able to hit the sweet spot with either substrate anyway.

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Re: first time with coir [Re: itslogics]
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itslogics said:
gus330 said:
was that ms or lc and what size mono is that



wondering the same thing, but also never heard that contam rates go up when using coffee grinds? Is that true?



In my experience coffee increases contam rates when used with coir or grain in jars.  It makes sense to me.  Coffee grows mold in the coffee maker EVERY time I leave it in there for a week.  I have NEVER seen mold on coir EVER.

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Re: first time with coir [Re: Terillius]
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very true, so your not too worried about the nitrogen content then? And I was going to use the coffee grinds, in the pasteurization process with the coir, not using it to help colonization in the jars. When you did yours, did it contam after u pasteurized it with the coir? Wondering if I should just do straight Coir and WBS.

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Re: first time with coir [Re: feelfunny]
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can you use brf cakes insteed of wbs


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Re: first time with coir [Re: gus330]
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yes you can


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Re: first time with coir [Re: rovert]
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my friend used 1 brick coir 1qaurt coffee 1quart verm 1quart gypsum and had amazing results using large doses tek got like 4 flushes out of them

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Re: first time with coir [Re: down44]
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one quart of gypsum is a lil much...

sure you could do straight coir but it helps add qt coffe qt verm and 10%(cup or so) gypsum hell even throw in a qt of castings

just make sure to throw in 1 gal water for right moisture content and pasturize properly: big bucket boiling/hot water temp around 160 overnight


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Re: first time with coir [Re: jcyril23]
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Coir's performance is stunning.  Straight, unsterilized, unpasteurized coir smokes anything.  I wouldn't piss around with coffee for the same reasons stated above--it's contam prone.  Additionally, I wouldn't be surprised if coir performs better without any pasteurization (something swim wouldn't ever bother with).  Apparently, coir is packed with a relatively invisible mold that fights off just about any competitors except, it would seem, psilocybe.  It's a mold in the same family of trich and actually smells like trich.  Coir never contaminates, and yet mycelium just devours it, it's amazing stuff.


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Re: first time with coir [Re: Poseidon]
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To the OP question
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and do you have to case a coir sub


The answer is no. That goes for any cub substrate
I always case my trays/tubs with a 50/50+ but that's just me.


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Re: first time with coir [Re: Poseidon]
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Could I get confirmation of using straight unpasteurized coir with success from a TC? Apparently so far my understanding of coir is you colonize a bag or jar and then after full colonization you fruit the bag or jar substrate in a tray with coir...is this correct? I'm hearing conflicting things on casing


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Re: first time with coir [Re: kydelic]
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You inoculate A substrate what ever one you want its your choice. BRF/RYE/WBS so on and so forth.
Then when that is %100 colonized you then can mix that with coir/Hpoo/Cpoo so on and so forth to create more substrate.
When that is %100 percent colonized you can either case it or birth it.


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Re: first time with coir [Re: curbstop]
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I've been reading up on straight coir and it seems great because I won't need a pressure cooker...what are the advantages and disadvantages between casing and birthing for coir? I found a tek and casing is used, but the problem for that is the lack of a PC and inability to get one anytime soon. Thanks!


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Re: first time with coir [Re: kydelic]
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Casing with coir is an outdated method...  Vets on this board always used to get tangled up in their panties when they heard someone using coir as bulk, exclaiming it was non-nutritive, only to be used as a casing.  Hah!  Sure it's a great way to case, but it's just like casing with manure.  So you might as will just go all the way and use it as bulk.  Only real disadvantage is price, but only in comparison to other bulks, which are free or close to free.  Stuff is still cheap as balls...


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