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disadvantages of straw only bulk?
    #2676780 - 05/14/04 05:38 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

hey omc :smile:

since i got a real hard time finding aged manure,
i plan upon doing a straw only bulk and wonder what the disadvantages
due to the missing manure would be?

such as less, or smaller fruits?
hope for input :smile:

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Re: disadvantages of straw only bulk? [Re: ohmatic]
    #2676826 - 05/14/04 05:56 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

you can do a bulk grow with "straw"
you can do a bulk grow with "manure"
you can do a bulk grow with "straw & Manure"

All three can produce "Monsters".
As for the disadvantages of not having the manure goes,what disadvantages?Straw is great by itself.My rooster has a Straw only bulk going right now.
I personally dont see any disadvantages,besides less nutrients being added,but straw is great by itself.

With manure you can get more flushes than just straw alone,so that would be the only downside that I'm aware of.

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Re: disadvantages of straw only bulk? [Re: ohmatic]
    #2676830 - 05/14/04 05:57 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Advantages = Bigger fruits, huge first flush, less contams.

Disadvantages = Crap second and third flushes, and though
the fruits are bigger its all water content.


I like plain straw as a fast turn over cropping system, but
i preffer 10% poo or multipurpose compost for longer croping trays.

Hope that helps, as thats my experiances using both.


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Re: disadvantages of straw only bulk? [Re: Loki]
    #2677236 - 05/14/04 11:12 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

thank u for both posts,
i decided i will use the straw as is with some pod soil mixed under it,
since the pod soil is very ritch on nutes, it will be pasteurized
along with the straw.

what do u think of this 'manure-replacement' ?

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Re: disadvantages of straw only bulk? [Re: ohmatic]
    #2677302 - 05/14/04 11:36 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

how much staw would one use for just two pf cakes, like one of them turkey pans or something?maybe somthing smaller?peace Gypsy


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Re: disadvantages of straw only bulk? [Re: ohmatic]
    #2677439 - 05/14/04 12:29 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I think you will be ok, i preffer compost to
soil though, as it has more fibre still, some
soild are quite loamy and not as good for fungi.
Multipurpose compost can be found
in most areas, and is quite fiberous.
I preffer to stay away from peat based
compost, as its very acidic.

Gypsy, if you want to break them up and spawn them
to straw, I would do one cake per tray, so you need about
4 or 5 liters of pasturised straw to two cakes imo.


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Re: disadvantages of straw only bulk? [Re: Loki]
    #2678099 - 05/14/04 03:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

How about pros/cons for 100% dung?


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Re: disadvantages of straw only bulk? [Re: Derek]
    #2678125 - 05/14/04 03:29 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Once you use dung,you wont want to use anything else.It produces some monsters.

Manure is "The Chit"! IMO

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Re: disadvantages of straw only bulk? [Re: doc34]
    #2678154 - 05/14/04 03:35 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

how is the is the colonition speed using str8 poo? would you need to do a casing layer with poo?peace Gypsy


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Re: disadvantages of straw only bulk? [Re: doc34]
    #2678163 - 05/14/04 03:37 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

sweet, Im on day 6 of waiting for pinning on my first 5 dung casings, things are looking good, can't wait to see those monsters.

All I've ever heard around here was lots of straw plus a little dung, so I assumed that it was preferred to straight dung.


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Re: disadvantages of straw only bulk? [Re: peleg]
    #2678283 - 05/14/04 04:01 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

It doesnt colonise as quickly as straw does but its pretty quick(given the right parameters).
Cubes fruit from straight poo-no casing is needed,but you may want a second opinion on this.


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Re: disadvantages of straw only bulk? [Re: ohmatic]
    #2678857 - 05/14/04 05:45 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

hey doc, how bout posting that Manure Bulk tek u were saying up in yur first post?? please, and PM it to me THANK YOU!


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Re: disadvantages of straw only bulk? [Re: TripleB]
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