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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: ImperialCactus]
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ImperialCactus said:
I must be missing something huge here because I can't see any reason at all for banning that and not regular cigs.


Well, cloves happen to be much worse for your health than regular cigarettes.  Still, I they could've just raised taxes on them.


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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: TTT]
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TTT said:
Politicians are always assholes


Seems to be the problem with the world. The people who get the jobs to run the world need an inherent predisposition of assholelishness.

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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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You get the government you deserve.


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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Baby_Hitler said:
You get the government you deserve.


I agree to a certain extent. I feel trapped to do anything about it though :/

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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: dysphoria]
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dysphoria said:
niteowl said:
dysphoria said:
yes cloves are being banned


link please

opinions mean jack shit around here


http://kickert.info/blog/2009/08/26/smoking-prevention-big-tobacco-and-clove-cigarettes/

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jZQ3Ygc0-ofXntFVVNoA8IusFU-QD9AIH5G81

http://www.nypress.com/blog-4961-ban-on-flavored-cigarettes-makes-big-tobaccos-job-a-little-bit-easier.html

next time gramps, do your own homework and type 'ban flavored cigarettes' in google.


wow...gramps? because he asked you to provide links?

:nonono:

that earns no respect


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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
dysphoria said:
niteowl said:
dysphoria said:
yes cloves are being banned


link please

opinions mean jack shit around here


http://kickert.info/blog/2009/08/26/smoking-prevention-big-tobacco-and-clove-cigarettes/

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jZQ3Ygc0-ofXntFVVNoA8IusFU-QD9AIH5G81

http://www.nypress.com/blog-4961-ban-on-flavored-cigarettes-makes-big-tobaccos-job-a-little-bit-easier.html

next time gramps, do your own homework and type 'ban flavored cigarettes' in google.


wow...gramps? because he asked you to provide links?

:nonono:

that earns no respect


was supposed to be 'granpaw' as his title is, but i messed up. its w/e, harm is done.


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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: dysphoria]
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Clove cigs are worse than heroin. That's what I was told anyway...


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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: LobsterSauce]
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Clove cigarettes made me rape my neighbor's baby, beat my wife, and stab the mailman. But I go to church now so god loves and forgives me and has a seat saved for me in heaven.

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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: DNKYD]
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DNKYD said:
Clove cigarettes made me rape my neighbor's baby, beat my wife, and stab the mailman. But I go to church now so god loves and forgives me and has a seat saved for me in heaven.



where can I find some clove cigarettes


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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
dysphoria said:
niteowl said:
dysphoria said:
yes cloves are being banned


link please

opinions mean jack shit around here


http://kickert.info/blog/2009/08/26/smoking-prevention-big-tobacco-and-clove-cigarettes/

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jZQ3Ygc0-ofXntFVVNoA8IusFU-QD9AIH5G81

http://www.nypress.com/blog-4961-ban-on-flavored-cigarettes-makes-big-tobaccos-job-a-little-bit-easier.html

next time gramps, do your own homework and type 'ban flavored cigarettes' in google.


wow...gramps? because he asked you to provide links?

:nonono:

that earns no respect


:lol:

I take no offense in being called Gramps :grin:


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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: niteowl]
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He didn't ban regular cigs cause he smokes em.

I'd love to sneak a cloves cigarrete in his packet after the ban, and catch him, arrest him, and stuff him in a 10ft x 10ft cell for 12 months.

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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Baby_Hitler said:
You get the government you deserve.


I didn't vote for that FUCKER.
I HATE OBAMA.

I also hate cigs too.
but, I do believe in choice.
if you want to kill yourself with them. then go right ahead.
I don't care if you do it with regular ones or vanilla ones.

and another thing.
I'm tired of hearing about the damn children
"what about the children?"
every time they wanna ban anything, we always gotta hear about these
damn kids.


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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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This is bullshit, cloves are the only cigs I enjoyed having once in a blue moon.

Fuck fuck fuckitty fuck fuck.


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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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Harsh! I don't smoke cloves, but I like them, so I like having the option.

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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: dysphoria]
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dysphoria said:
http://kickert.info/blog/2009/08/26/smoking-prevention-big-tobacco-and-clove-cigarettes/


That first link was a good read. The following doesn't surprise me at all, considering the Big-Tobacco Lobby's complicity in the recent SCHIP/Excise-Tax bill where the tax on roll-your-own tobacco went up 1,200%.

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What makes this so reprehensible is the fact that the big tobacco companies have been pushing for this legislation.  While it appears to seek to curb products that would be appealing to youth, the truth of the matter is this bill is designed to block competitors of the traditional tobacco dealers.  Just look at the exception of menthols.  Why is that flavor not included?  The answer is simple: because people like Phillip Morris make way too much money to risk pissing them off.  The irony of the matter really comes out when you start looking at statistics.  Are kids using cloves and vanilla cigarettes a “gateway” to “harder” products like Marlboro Reds?  No!  Just read this analysis from Sarah Torribio. [...]

By supporting this bill, big tobacco companies like Phillip Morris and R.J. Reynolds can appear to be taking a stand against underage smoking, while suffering no ill effects to their bottom line.  In fact, this bill helps them out by reducing the competition.  While I can certainly get behind many of the other elements of the legislation, this ban on flavorings does nothing to protect children and instead limits the choices of adults.  There is no evidence this ban will improve the health or decrease the smoking rate of Americans.  What it best illustrates is how effective big corporations are at shielding their profits because of effective lobbying...



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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: Papaver]
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Papaver said:
"this ban on flavorings does nothing to protect children and instead limits the choices of adults.  There is no evidence this ban will improve the health or decrease the smoking rate of Americans."



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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: dysphoria]
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dysphoria said:
yes cloves are being banned, but djarum is changing their cigs to conform with the new mandate. i hear they will be more like a cigar, which isnt subject to the ban.


ROFL, why the fuck ban cloves?


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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
ImperialCactus said:
I must be missing something huge here because I can't see any reason at all for banning that and not regular cigs.


Well, cloves happen to be much worse for your health than regular cigarettes.  Still, I they could've just raised taxes on them.


I love how you posted that with such a "matter of factly" sort of wording, considering that isn't a factual statement.

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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: Neuron]
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Because they're dicks


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Re: Is obama banning clove cigarettes [Re: dysphoria]
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This is absolute BULLSHIT.

Why the fuck isn't alcohol/regular cigs banned? They're just as bad.

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