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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: Platinum]
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Hey hey now, I didn't say this consumerism and materialistic bullshit is great. My point was that theres no such thing as the good ol days. everything was fucked, everything is fucked, and everything will continue to be fucked. If anything, we are in agreement here. BUT, try to hold onto the good thigns while you can. Things can always be worse. You could be a starving child in Africa with AIDS, so bad that they can't even eat an apple because their stomaches can't handle it and are used to being NOT fed. Try that on for size. Fuck youre mortgages, fuck your income tax, fuck your yuppy lower class status. Because our lower class has it a lot better than much of the world. Our lower class shit is their upper class gold.

Perspective.





I'm sorry do you live in africa ? Are your African freedoms in jeaprody ? I could say that Space aliens are starving of galatic assmungus it doesnt affect our country . We are being turned into slaves before our very eyes . And its bullshit thinking that we should be fine with it .

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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: HeroMike]
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were not being turned into to slaves. i'm feeling optimistic about things for the first time in years.


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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: HeroMike]
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HeroMike said:
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Hey hey now, I didn't say this consumerism and materialistic bullshit is great. My point was that theres no such thing as the good ol days. everything was fucked, everything is fucked, and everything will continue to be fucked. If anything, we are in agreement here. BUT, try to hold onto the good thigns while you can. Things can always be worse. You could be a starving child in Africa with AIDS, so bad that they can't even eat an apple because their stomaches can't handle it and are used to being NOT fed. Try that on for size. Fuck youre mortgages, fuck your income tax, fuck your yuppy lower class status. Because our lower class has it a lot better than much of the world. Our lower class shit is their upper class gold.

Perspective.





I'm sorry do you live in africa ? Are your African freedoms in jeaprody ? I could say that Space aliens are starving of galatic assmungus it doesnt affect our country . We are being turned into slaves before our very eyes . And its bullshit thinking that we should be fine with it .



Well maybe you need to fucking realize that we humans are the same. That african could just as easily have been you. You got lucky and happened to have been born by your parents living in America (or wherever you live). You are lucky that you DONT live in Africa, and you will never have to know the hardships they struggle to live through every fucking day.

You are just ignorant and blind. How the fuck can you compare space aliens to starving Africans? You make me fucking sick, honestly. I just lost respect for you. I don't mind a debate, but this? It seems like you're just reaching for something to throw back in my face without thinking about what you're saying.

You sir, are allowing yourself to be turned into a slave. You sir, are a square.

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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: Platinum]
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Platinum said:
HeroMike said:
Quote:
Hey hey now, I didn't say this consumerism and materialistic bullshit is great. My point was that theres no such thing as the good ol days. everything was fucked, everything is fucked, and everything will continue to be fucked. If anything, we are in agreement here. BUT, try to hold onto the good thigns while you can. Things can always be worse. You could be a starving child in Africa with AIDS, so bad that they can't even eat an apple because their stomaches can't handle it and are used to being NOT fed. Try that on for size. Fuck youre mortgages, fuck your income tax, fuck your yuppy lower class status. Because our lower class has it a lot better than much of the world. Our lower class shit is their upper class gold.

Perspective.





I'm sorry do you live in africa ? Are your African freedoms in jeaprody ? I could say that Space aliens are starving of galatic assmungus it doesnt affect our country . We are being turned into slaves before our very eyes . And its bullshit thinking that we should be fine with it .



Well maybe you need to fucking realize that we humans are the same. That african could just as easily have been you. You got lucky and happened to have been born by your parents living in America (or wherever you live). You are lucky that you DONT live in Africa, and you will never have to know the hardships they struggle to live through every fucking day.

You are just ignorant and blind. How the fuck can you compare space aliens to starving Africans? You make me fucking sick, honestly. I just lost respect for you. I don't mind a debate, but this? It seems like you're just reaching for something to throw back in my face without thinking about what you're saying.

You sir, are allowing yourself to be turned into a slave. You sir, are a square.




I am not ignorant nore blind my friend . I know I could have been born in one of those places . And I wish I would have . Because Although they may struggle to survive and have hardships we in the states can't even dream of . But they are born closer to a " god " then we ever will . They are so in touch with life , because they do not have bullshit plugging there ears , and making asswholes blind like you . To take pity on them . Its them who should take pitty on you ! I do not fear death . I embrace it because it is just part of this reality we've created for our selfs . You are the ignorant and blind sir not I . Although they have it hard to live. Living is not really living at all . They are closer to god then we will ever be so I will end this message with a simple FUCK YOU and have a nice day . Though i wont touch your rating , because I'm not an ignorant prick like you :smile: have a nice life with your "sympathetic" walking stick . Don't take pity on those who should be taking pity on you .

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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: HeroMike]
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HeroMike said:
Platinum said:
HeroMike said:
Quote:
Hey hey now, I didn't say this consumerism and materialistic bullshit is great. My point was that theres no such thing as the good ol days. everything was fucked, everything is fucked, and everything will continue to be fucked. If anything, we are in agreement here. BUT, try to hold onto the good thigns while you can. Things can always be worse. You could be a starving child in Africa with AIDS, so bad that they can't even eat an apple because their stomaches can't handle it and are used to being NOT fed. Try that on for size. Fuck youre mortgages, fuck your income tax, fuck your yuppy lower class status. Because our lower class has it a lot better than much of the world. Our lower class shit is their upper class gold.

Perspective.




I'm sorry do you live in africa ? Are your African freedoms in jeaprody ? I could say that Space aliens are starving of galatic assmungus it doesnt affect our country . We are being turned into slaves before our very eyes . And its bullshit thinking that we should be fine with it .



Well maybe you need to fucking realize that we humans are the same. That african could just as easily have been you. You got lucky and happened to have been born by your parents living in America (or wherever you live). You are lucky that you DONT live in Africa, and you will never have to know the hardships they struggle to live through every fucking day.

You are just ignorant and blind. How the fuck can you compare space aliens to starving Africans? You make me fucking sick, honestly. I just lost respect for you. I don't mind a debate, but this? It seems like you're just reaching for something to throw back in my face without thinking about what you're saying.

You sir, are allowing yourself to be turned into a slave. You sir, are a square.




I am not ignorant nore blind my friend . I know I could have been born in one of those places . And I wish I would have . Because Although they may struggle to survive and have hardships we in the states can't even dream of . But they are born closer to a " god " then we ever will . They are so in touch with life , because they do not have bullshit plugging there ears , and making asswholes blind like you . To take pity on them . Its them who should take pitty on you ! I do not fear death . I embrace it because it is just part of this reality we've created for our selfs . You are the ignorant and blind sir not I . Although they have it hard to live. Living is not really living at all . They are closer to god then we will ever be so I will end this message with a simple FUCK YOU and have a nice day . Though i wont touch your rating , because I'm not an ignorant prick like you :smile: have a nice life with your "sympathetic" walking stick . Don't take pity on those who should be taking pity on you .



I have a solid feeling that you have no idea what you are talking about. Also, please don't use the word sheep, it's overused.


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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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I have a solid feeling that you have no idea what you are talking about. Also, please don't use the word sheep, it's overused.






Its not fair to them to live such a struggling life true . But people in those situations don't care about cars , cloths , or profit or loss . They have an unfair and tough life thats true . They are born with diformities and other unfortunate circumstances .


But the ones who live there and are not dying of those conditions , but may have hunger in their bellys are still more in tune with the world around them then you and I will ever be .

Imagine being born in an area that has open land and no electronics in sight . You would be completely in touch with the earth and your spirituality .

Yes its brutal over there and yes its fucking unbelieveable and inhuman how they are treated .

But i feel they should take pitty on us for not being as close to unconditional love as they are .

Have you ever meditated for a day ?


Imagine these people do not meditate because they are surrouned by such spirituality as only the solitude of they're condition can offer .

They should pitty us for not ever coming close to a true oneness with anything .

Not one of you or I can say we have achieved a spiritual oneness.

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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: HeroMike]
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I think the only thing they're surrounded by is an unforgiving land, poverty, rampant disease, and an ineffectual government. I don't think these people have time to be spiritually in tune with anything when they have to constantly think about their own survival.


I don't know what's up with Africa, they need to figure out something.


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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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And to add to that, close to god? The only "god" they know is the "god" that the missionaries preach them about when they come to convert them.

You don't know what you're talking about. I suggest you take a trip to Africa and see what shit's really like. The kids don't play in parks and play basketball and chase each other playing tag. They starve. Stop talking please, you are only getting me angry and making yourself look more like a fool.

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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: Platinum]
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Platinum said:
And to add to that, close to god? The only "god" they know is the "god" that the missionaries preach them about when they come to convert them.

You don't know what you're talking about. I suggest you take a trip to Africa and see what shit's really like. The kids don't play in parks and play basketball and chase each other playing tag. They starve. Stop talking please, you are only getting me angry and making yourself look more like a fool.





I think you confuse orginized religions "god" with spirituality . And that I can not help you with . Not saying I'm all mighty and spiritual , but I can't convince you of something your blind to .

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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: Platinum]
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Platinum said:
And to add to that, close to god? The only "god" they know is the "god" that the missionaries preach them about when they come to convert them.

You don't know what you're talking about. I suggest you take a trip to Africa and see what shit's really like. The kids don't play in parks and play basketball and chase each other playing tag. They starve. Stop talking please, you are only getting me angry and making yourself look more like a fool.



Another thing , who gives you the right to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about ? I know what its like over there I'm not stupid . You fail to see the deeper meaning of what I'm trying to say . Sorry that I'm unable to convey that to you . Thats my fualt .

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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: HeroMike]
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HeroMike said:
Platinum said:
And to add to that, close to god? The only "god" they know is the "god" that the missionaries preach them about when they come to convert them.

You don't know what you're talking about. I suggest you take a trip to Africa and see what shit's really like. The kids don't play in parks and play basketball and chase each other playing tag. They starve. Stop talking please, you are only getting me angry and making yourself look more like a fool.



Another thing , who gives you the right to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about ? I know what its like over there I'm not stupid . You fail to see the deeper meaning of what I'm trying to say . Sorry that I'm unable to convey that to you . Thats my fualt .



The first amendment.


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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: Rocker232]
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There was no internet in the 60s, I wouldn't want to go back.


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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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Mandrake said:
HeroMike said:
Platinum said:
And to add to that, close to god? The only "god" they know is the "god" that the missionaries preach them about when they come to convert them.

You don't know what you're talking about. I suggest you take a trip to Africa and see what shit's really like. The kids don't play in parks and play basketball and chase each other playing tag. They starve. Stop talking please, you are only getting me angry and making yourself look more like a fool.



Another thing , who gives you the right to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about ? I know what its like over there I'm not stupid . You fail to see the deeper meaning of what I'm trying to say . Sorry that I'm unable to convey that to you . Thats my fualt .



The first amendment.




Lol you got me there .

Also gives me the right to defened my point as well .

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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: HeroMike]
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That it does.


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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: HeroMike]
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Platinum, everything you have said so far has been true.

HeroMike, if you honestly think that people in Africa are better off, in any way, than a person in a western country, then you have some serious mental issues you need to deal with.

People in western societies are living at the pinnacle of modern society.
Is it a perfect utopia.....no, there will never be perfection in society.

People that are complaining about their life need a reality check.

Things are better now than they were at any time in the past.


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Live for the moment you are in now
Don't be bogged down by your past
Don't be afraid of what lies in your future

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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: Platinum]
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I remember when MTV used to be edgy and entertaining, and no one had heard of Carson Daly.  Those were the good old days.


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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
Platinum, everything you have said so far has been true.

HeroMike, if you honestly think that people in Africa are better off, in any way, than a person in a western country, then you have some serious mental issues you need to deal with.

People in western societies are living at the pinnacle of modern society.
Is it a perfect utopia.....no, there will never be perfection in society.

People that are complaining about their life need a reality check.

Things are better now than they were at any time in the past.





I respectfully disagree. I don't have issues but its hard for anyone to look at the issue from a distance . 2009 is not a better society then 10 or even 20 years ago . But that is all a matter of opinion , we are more restricted now then ever . Patriot Act ect.. we have no freedoms we've sold them for convenience .

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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: HeroMike]
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HeroMike said:
niteowl said:
Platinum, everything you have said so far has been true.

HeroMike, if you honestly think that people in Africa are better off, in any way, than a person in a western country, then you have some serious mental issues you need to deal with.

People in western societies are living at the pinnacle of modern society.
Is it a perfect utopia.....no, there will never be perfection in society.

People that are complaining about their life need a reality check.

Things are better now than they were at any time in the past.





I respectfully disagree. I don't have issues but its hard for anyone to look at the issue from a distance . 2009 is not a better society then 10 or even 20 years ago . But that is all a matter of opinion , we are more restricted now then ever . Patriot Act ect.. we have no freedoms we've sold them for convenience .



So what is it that you could do 10 years ago that you can't do today?


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Live for the moment you are in now
Don't be bogged down by your past
Don't be afraid of what lies in your future

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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
HeroMike said:
niteowl said:
Platinum, everything you have said so far has been true.

HeroMike, if you honestly think that people in Africa are better off, in any way, than a person in a western country, then you have some serious mental issues you need to deal with.

People in western societies are living at the pinnacle of modern society.
Is it a perfect utopia.....no, there will never be perfection in society.

People that are complaining about their life need a reality check.

Things are better now than they were at any time in the past.





I respectfully disagree. I don't have issues but its hard for anyone to look at the issue from a distance . 2009 is not a better society then 10 or even 20 years ago . But that is all a matter of opinion , we are more restricted now then ever . Patriot Act ect.. we have no freedoms we've sold them for convenience .



So what is it that you could do 10 years ago that you can't do today?






I could sit here and make a list if i wanted to wasted an hour. But to name one I've previously mentioned .

The Patriot Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act

Basically if your not familiar with it , if the government so chooses to know down your door on supposed threats that your a terrorist . You will be thrown in guantonimo Bay and they'll throw awaythe key. This not only violates a number of our rights but is unconstitutional .


You can't smoke anywhere anymore . Based on propaganda . They're not ever sure what part of smoking kills you , including second hand smoke .

You are required by law to wear your seat belt . This is a choice yo ushould makeif you wantto save your own life .

Edited by HeroMike (07/28/09 09:57 PM)

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Re: There were no "Good Ol' Days" [Re: HeroMike]
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There is nothing I was doing 20 years ago that I can't do today.

Bottomline is your comment about people in Africa being better off than people in America is just ignorance, plain and simple.


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