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Offlineshrooming4fun
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casing with verm and grain VS dung
    #1017616 - 11/03/02 04:23 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I am about to inoculate jars of rye grain with pr's and eq's, and after colonizaiton i plan to case them, i was wondering if i used dung if it would produce more mushrooms compared to a 50/50 mix.


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Re: casing with verm and grain VS dung [Re: shrooming4fun]
    #1017626 - 11/03/02 04:33 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

You don't use a nutrional subtrate as a casing layer. You case dung in something like 50/50+

Any casing will produce more shrooms


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Re: casing with verm and grain VS dung [Re: shrooming4fun]
    #1017627 - 11/03/02 04:35 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Yes.  Most defently.    Do a search for    Roadkill Poo Tek.    Follow that and you will be happy..

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Re: casing with verm and grain VS dung [Re: ItsAllGood]
    #1017911 - 11/03/02 10:18 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

In reply to:

You don't use a nutrional subtrate as a casing layer. You case dung in something like 50/50+



Can you explain this in a little more detail. I though most any casing besides straight verm casing used a nutritional substrate layer on top.


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Re: casing with verm and grain VS dung [Re: Theta]
    #1017936 - 11/03/02 10:33 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

You case your spawned/colonised substrate be it poo/straw/compost whatever. In
1.Stright Verm (soaked first)
2.Coir
3. Peat / Verm
4. Peat / Verm / oyster shell
5. Any combo of the above
6. 5 +lime flour etc


The casing layer serves several purposes NON of which is nutritional.

1) Stop your sustarte drying out
2) provide humid mico climate for primordia formation
3) provide water revervior for maturing shrooms
4) support growth of frutification enhancing micro organisms.

OK?


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Re: casing with verm and grain VS dung [Re: ItsAllGood]
    #1017988 - 11/03/02 11:02 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Good info you posted for our erstwhile breathren, however, and not to confuse things, dung can be used as a sorta casing layer. I believe this is called 3M Dung Tek. Here's a link:

http://www.theforestfloor.org/archives/main/3m's_Dung_Tek.html

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Re: casing with verm and grain VS dung [Re: vildechayea]
    #1018002 - 11/03/02 11:10 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Interesting I had'nt read this. BUT strictly speaking the author is not casing the grain in poo he is just letting it colonise and then fruit. The subsequent removal of poo during each flush is really just about colonising another fresh poo substrate.

Interesting all the same.


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