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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Are there hidden languages? [Re: deCypher]
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Classic evocational methods tend to rely on fear and 2nd circuit(Leary) domination(example being the evocation into the "triangle of art").  Fear, when brought to the extremes, makes shit happen.  When one is fearful and makes hirself easily susceptible to demonic possession by not using the traditional safeguards, this may lead to trouble.  However, the traditional methods can work to effect.

Of course, this is not the only way.  There is the way of acceptance. By letting go of the fear and need for safeguards, one can effectively work with an entity.  But what is essential with this is a strongly grounded sense of being.  One can experiment with various methods to contact which are best suited to the practitioner including long, extended workings.  Drugs, scrying, constantly carrying the seal of the entity, meditation, etc.  The ways of magick are diverse and what works for one may not work as well for others.

Dxm is a substance very well suited for some types of magick.  As I've stated, I've found it to work extremely well for scrying and coming into contact with entities, even if this contact is'nt always communal.  It is also excellent for simple forms of ceremonial magick such as rituals like the lbrp and middle pillar.


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Re: Are there hidden languages? [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
This sums it up fairly well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-Hand_Path_and_Right-Hand_Path

Also this journal entry puts it in a slightly more poetic format: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9532591/an/0/page/0


I'll look into that. :mushroom2:


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Are there hidden languages? [Re: lavod]
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lavod said: By letting go of the fear and need for safeguards, one can effectively work with an entity.


:thumbup:  'Prideful deities like prideful partners.'

How does Ketamine compare to DXM in your experience?


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Re: Are there hidden languages? [Re: deCypher]
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God (:awesome:), all this talk about dieties makes me want to get :doggystyle:'d up on some hardcore drugs!


:scaryshroom:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Are there hidden languages? [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
How does Ketamine compare to DXM in your experience?


With ketamine, I generally go for the large hole dosages.  Any entities I encounter are generally a part of the landscape, sort of speaking, sort of like an Alex Grey painting(that one on the cover of Tool's 10k days come to mind).  I find k to be better suited for metaprogramming, deep introspection, and simply going for a hell of a ride in what one could consider an alternate reality.  For evocational purposes, I feel dxm is better suited than even low dose k.  I'm curious as to how they would do combined. 

In the near future(2-3wks), I plan on combining dxm polistirex, s+ ketamine, and a bit of diphenhydramine to see how they fare together.  Should be magickal time :smile:. 

Along similar lines with the original topic, perhaps icaros deserve conversation(I just got invited somewhere so I cant right now)?


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Re: Are there hidden languages? [Re: Poid]
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if theirs a hidden universe  language in the 3d realm  it prolly will be be based on spatial, meaning my dog speaks to me using gestures , licking lips and looking in direction of meaning. the spatial part is: the directions space.
sort of similar to the early century  sailors hand gesture language and native american hand languages. all groups ralativly could trad using crude gestures.


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