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Astro-theology and Etymology (origins of the bible, jews and language)
    #5698553 - 06/01/06 05:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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The word Hebrew did not relate to a particular race but to the "Wise Ones" - originally the Ibaru (Ibri), or the Eabrach of Ireland, and later, of Egypt. The ancient name for the land of Ireland was Hibernia, and the ancient Irish were known as Hibernians. This is a Celtic word and also denoted those Celtic tribes which inhabited Spain. Spain's olden name was Iberia. In short, the original Hebrews - were Celts.




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The same problem exists with the term Judah, from which we get Jew. This originally came from the Gaelic Iudah or Iudach, meaning "shining" or "pure." This word has a similarity to the Sanskrit Yutiya, which became Yehudi. Yehudi is the original tribal or even racial term of those who are now called Jews. Their racial title comes not from Ireland but from India, the original home of the Semites. These Indian Semites, the "Jews" are not the same people as the Judites or Iudites, the followers of light, or Iesa, in Ireland.




then the article gets into LOTS of words. I love this kind of stuff


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Re: Astro-theology and Etymology (origins of the bible, jews and language) [Re: kotik]
    #5698555 - 06/01/06 05:58 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Astro-theology and Etymology (origins of the bible, jews and language) [Re: kotik]
    #5698623 - 06/01/06 06:59 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the link. :smirk:


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Re: Astro-theology and Etymology (origins of the bible, jews and language) [Re: kotik]
    #5698647 - 06/01/06 07:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Just silly is all. Semitic people did not originate with Celts no matter what bogus etymology the site makes. Don't believe everything you read.


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Re: Astro-theology and Etymology (origins of the bible, jews and language) [Re: kotik]
    #5698794 - 06/01/06 08:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Neat-O!


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Re: Astro-theology and Etymology (origins of the bible, jews and language) [Re: Gomp]
    #5698823 - 06/01/06 08:59 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Just silly is all. Semitic people did not originate with Celts no matter what bogus etymology the site makes. Don't believe everything you read.




i don't.  haha, trust me.  but I am still GLUED to this site, researching each term carefully.  The most interesting one that I have read thus far is:

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SINISTER
Made from the words sin and ster. The latter means star, while the former is the most ancient name for the moon, even more used than Min. All Lunar Cult peoples referred to their goddess as Sin. This is where we derive the word Sinai, which is a mountain mentioned in the Old Testament. This region and the mountain, like all mountains, was sacred to the astronomers and star-gazers, who would always have stations and altars on the tops of hills and mounts. We still see the word, mount, (moon), before certain place names. Later, in the time of the patriarchal religions, all scions of the Lunar cult were rebuked and vilified. Thus we have the words sinner and lunatic as derogatory terms. The former is so loaded with religious intonations that we cannot see its real origins. It comes from the bigoted solar cult. The remonstration in the Bible- "go ye and sin no more," is not really a call for contrition, as we are told today. It really meant, Go and worship SIN no more, that is the moon, worship the sun instead. Sinners were not wayward Christians. They were the converted and enslaved members of previous Feminine cults. The word harlot and prostitute also referred to the same persons. These were originally the High Priestesses of the previous cults. They worshipped the natural cycles and rejoiced in the bounty of "mother" Earth and their credo was one of tolerance and coexistence. They worshipped the night sky as an corporeal manifestation of the body of The Creatrix. They did not reject or repress the natural libidinous energies of the body and respected the sexual drive as a normal and productive power. We get the word sign, from sin. The word comes from the time when we knew that the planets, like the moon, gave signs, meaning astrological intimations. When the moon gave rise to mantic auguries, one would say that "Sin," has shown us the way, or it is a sin or I saw a sign. Now we just say it was a sign, or give us a sign. It all comes from astrology. The ancient name for India was Sindh. The Lunar Cult was very strong there. It was strong in Persia also, which is why the Islamic flags still bear the crescent moon emblem. The name of the moon is preserved in names like Cindy. Cinderella a lunar myth, dealing with the "Chemycal Marriage," amongst other things, has an entire astrological dramatis personae. In fact we still use the term "stellar cast" when speaking in movie jargon. It's so old it's new.

But the principalities that were focused on the Martian and repressive hegemony, lost no time in eradicating the Lunar Priestesses and their influence and world view. Stories like that of Sodom and Gomorrah, of the Magdalene, the "Whore of Babylon," and of Jesus rejecting and rebuking his mother, will suffice to help one to see propaganda instead of revelation. Or perhaps it is a revelation. But from what agency?




Of course, each explanation is sprinkled (sometimes smothered) in opinion, bias, intent, etc. in fact a few even break off and mention conspiracy and etc, showing personality of the author rather than facts).  but aside from all of that, its easy to see what can be backed up by more research, and what is just "silly."

I would be interested in what you thought of more of this, since much seems to refer to gnostic concepts.  :thumbup: :thumbdown: :confused:


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Re: Astro-theology and Etymology (origins of the bible, jews and language) [Re: kotik]
    #5698891 - 06/01/06 09:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The problem with much of this is that it plays off of English words. In Greek, the word for sin is 'hamartia,' which, taken from an analogy with archery, means 'missing the mark.'

Here is a site that doesn't attempt to over-reach itself historically: http://www.dhushara.com/book/orsin/origsin.htm if the deity Nannar-Sin[n] is of interest. 'Sin' in the English translation of the Bible still means violating spiritual laws and is not an English derivative of the Greek 'hamartia' nor does it refer to worship of Nannar-Sin[n]. Otherwise, it is comparing apples to oranges.


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Re: Astro-theology and Etymology (origins of the bible, jews and language) [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #5698934 - 06/01/06 09:52 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

thanks for the link, i see it goes much further!

this is also from wiki, mentioning both concepts

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The English word sin derives from Old English synn. The same root appears in several other Germanic languages, e.g. Old Norse synd, or German Sünde. The word may derive, ultimately, from *es-, one of the Proto-Indo-European roots that meant "to be," and is a present participle, "being." Latin, also has an old present participle of esse in the word sons, sont-, which came to mean "guilty" in Latin. The root meaning would appear to be, "it is true;" that is, "the charge has been proven." The Greek word hamartia (ἁμαρτία) is usually translated as sin in the New Testament; it means "to miss the mark" or "to miss the target".

"Sin" was also the name of the Babylonian moon god. Some students in recent times have postulated a connection with the modern English word "sin", but this can only be a folk-etymology, because the etymology shown above from Anglo-Saxon synn is historically documented, the certified cognates are in Germanic languages, and no connection with the Babylonian religion can be cited.




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