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OfflineDocPsilocybin
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Wellii question!
    #949428 - 10/10/02 12:58 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Hey, thanks to Lizard King's post I've just gotten interested in finding Wellii's, can anyone point me towards a link where I could find out information on how to ID these?

I can't find anything on Safe-Pik.

Also, what should the spore print color be?


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Re: Wellii question! [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #949484 - 10/10/02 01:16 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

About habitat, season, and where to look...Well, season has been almost non-exsistent since may. Only a few losse fruits here and there every 3-4 weeks during the summer. The main season for these mushrooms doesn't start until the fall rains, which is usually late august early september-november. I'm not finding anything at all lately except a couple in my backyard due to using a sprinkler. Wait until it starts raining regularly again and you'll have much better chances.

Habitat; New lawns from 3-8 yrs old, typically in centipede and bermuda grass. Disturbed grounds in general(construction areas etc...) that look like they've settled and are atleast 3 yrs old since being disturbed. Along the edge of developed grounds, like where a lawn meets the woods. Hillsides that are shaded and have been disturbed. Hunt in low grounds where water and fog collect frequently, but doesn't ever flood. Old flood plains that don't flood anymore. Under powerlines that get bush hogged(underbrush cut out) every year. Look around sweetgums that are only 10-15 feet tall. Every patch I have is covered more in leaves than pine straw, but I have seen them pop up in pine islands.

Basically start by looking in newer lawns, if everything looks right(age of neighbor hood, low lying grounds, etc...) and you still don't find anything, find acsess to the woods behind the neighborhood and walk the edge of the backyards and into the woods 10-15 feet. Abandon lots that were going to be something but were instead left to regrow can also be good areas, there are lots of these lots in suburbian ATL.

Well, actually most of my sucsess is in semi-wooded areas rather than grass. They are a large psilocybe, and it has to be really damp for them to make an appearance in open lawns(usually later in the season towards fall) I have yet to find one growing in a lawn this year so far. But when they do show up in lawns, it seems they prefer bermuda grass lawns more than any other grassses, although I have seen them in other grasses before.

Heres the secret to finding weilii. They flourish in areas where the soil was disturbed by construction. The most reliable and easiest way to find weilii, is to look in newer neighborhoods that were built anywhere from 5-10 years ago. Every dead end neighborhood has a cul de sac, usually a few. Well, if you've ever worked construction, especially in new neighborhoods, you'd know that all those trees and braches/limbs that get cut down get burried somewhere, and its usually in the woods at the end of a cul de sac. Find the trash hole or burry site in a newer neighbor hood and take a look around. Remember, they only grow from redclay, and from what I've seent hey prefer low grounds next to flood plains where the humidity is always high. So if you find a cul de sac in a newer neighborhood, and the ground consists mainly of redclay, and the area is low lying and moist, there will most likely be a few weiliis to be found.

I'm not sure how far north they grow, but they were discovered in Cherokee county near the mountains, so that should say something. As long as the ground is still redclay and not rich black mountain soil, you have a chance of finding weilii

When searching new neighborhoods check around trees, pine islands, bushes, edges of sidewalk and driveways, and just along any "interface ecosystem" as paul stamets puts it.


i believe the print should be purpleish black


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Re: Wellii question! [Re: GaNjAShRooM]
    #949507 - 10/10/02 01:26 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Thing is it's been raining like a SOB here for a few weeks now. We've even got a bit of hail (brrr, it's getting cold) but I'm just not sure if I'll find them this far North. I've only heard of Wellii's on this hunting forum, and it seems to me that I've seem mushrooms that look very similar to the pictures I've been seeing.

But what I'm looking for is a way to identify them. Like gill structure, cap color, spore print, bruising?, hollow stem or not, smell, any features that you guys can think of that would suggest Wellii. Either that, or hell they might not even grow around here.

I haven't seen any red clay I don't think. I honestly don't even know what that is.... But I have seen a lot of mushrooms that look similar to Wellii's growing in the interface zone around yards, etc.


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Re: Wellii question! [Re: GaNjAShRooM]
    #949713 - 10/10/02 03:11 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Well, I went for a walk and found these. I thought they kinda looked like Weilli, maybe?

SHIT!! Sorry about the massive size, I've got to go now and I didn't realize they were so big when I posted them.
I'm taking a spore print right now, so I'll post that when I get back.
Thanks



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Re: Wellii question! [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #949740 - 10/10/02 03:29 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

dude just bite the bullet, and go to the QCI this weekend.


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Re: Wellii question! [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #949755 - 10/10/02 03:36 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Did that mofo briuse blue?


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Re: Wellii question! [Re: Gumby]
    #949787 - 10/10/02 03:51 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Not really. I thought I might have seen a bit of a bluish hue where the cap connected to the stem.. But it could have just been the light. No obvious bruising anyway.

Damn eh, the spore print was non-existant. I guess I might have to take a trip to QCI one day... If I can ever scrape together enough to afford it.


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Re: Wellii question! [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #949820 - 10/10/02 04:07 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I would say that is not a weilii. Im not sure of the species, but I have seen a lot of these weilii looks alikes. Did the stem have a kind of woody look to it? The easiest way to tell if its weilii is by the stem. If it had white rhizomorphs, and went down into the ground, then its weilii. Also notice the smell, Weiliis have a strong, alien odor, that is unlike any other mushroom.


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Re: Wellii question! [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #949897 - 10/10/02 04:48 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Take a few more pics and post them, get some pics of the stem. It certainly looks like weilii but its hard to tell for sure without better pics. Weilii often bruises blue where the cap meets the stem, its quite common actually.


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Re: Wellii question! [Re: Lizard King]
    #950356 - 10/10/02 07:02 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Well I took a spore print, and from what I've been told it should be purple to black, and turns out it was a WISPY rust color.. The spore print was so light it was hard to see actually...

The stem it's self was hollow, and very stringy.. I'll go tomorrow and get another speciimen to photograph!!

Expect to see some updates then.


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Re: Wellii question! [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #950978 - 10/10/02 09:25 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

the cops now have your fingerprint doc :smile:


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Re: Wellii question! [Re: Mitchnast]
    #951011 - 10/10/02 09:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

lol, yeah I was thinking the same thing.

Those are some nice quality pictures though. THeres a setting on your camera probably to reduce the size. This will also allow you to take a lot of pictures. Choose a setting around or below 800X600 pixels.


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Re: Wellii question! [Re: angryshroom]
    #951087 - 10/10/02 09:51 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Heh, let them have my fringer prints, eh!

Yeah, thing is it was my friends camera and he was taking the pictures!! The ones I'll get for next time will be smaller!


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Re: Wellii question! [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #951777 - 10/11/02 04:43 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

thats not a weilii,i dont think-a look alike i do believe


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