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"ok, then is it that far fetched then to assume that if planetary bodies can have an effect on earth, that they can affect us as well seeing that we are comprised of the same elements"

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zouden said:

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"ok, then is it that far fetched then to assume that if planetary bodies can have an effect on earth, that they can affect us as well seeing that we are comprised of the same elements"

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If that was the case then wouldn't your moon sign be more important than your sun sign?

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zouden said:

>but we just can't physically see the effects, or if we can, we are too blind to see them.

But astrology claims to be able to see the effects. If the effects cannot be seen, or predicted, then what's the point of astrology?

>and i never said the moon/water water bit was a scientific theory... i said it was a decent point...

If it's not scientific then it's not a decent point, it's pure conjecture.

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sam420 said:

I'm all for interconnected-ness.  But I still fail to see what, in the grand scheme of the cosmos, the alignment of the planets has to do with your love-life.

Are there any blind experiments which demonstrably show that astrologers can make accurate predictions?  Or do they just profit from the fact that deep down we are all much more alike than we like to believe?

Ever see that Derren Brown show where he wrote 2-page essays about a good few volunteers he had never met before and most of them were shocked at how much he seemed to know about their personality and how accurately he described their hopes and dreams?  Then he lifted the facade of the supernatural and told them they had all been reading the exact same essay.

Sorry if I cam across hostile.  I think that horoscopes are generally harmless but it's the mindlessness of the entire scene, running in the same vein as organised religion and spiritual mediums that pisses me off.  If you're willing to put forward plausible arguments about why you think astrology might work then let's have a discussion about it.

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zouden said:

>but to say if it's not scientific than it's pure conjecture is silly...

I was responding to your claim that the statement "we are made of water, moon controls water" is a good point. I say it is not a good point. My reason is that that statement is attempting to rationalise astrology using scientific logic (physical phenomena), and if you attempt to use science you have to expect skepticism. That statement is not backed up by any sort of evidence; it's purely hocus-pocus conjecture wrapped up in a veil of pseudoscience. That is why it's not a good point.

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