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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: Your Destination]
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it was, and Ayn asks what would you say to Atlas if you saw him slowly dying from the weight of the world?

:shrug:


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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: Crasher]
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I loved Atlas Shrugged, the Fountainhead, and We the Living. Brilliant stuff.

Haven't read Anthem though.


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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: WyattsTorch]
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howard roarke is my personal hero.


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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: Syle]
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http://www.danielstamate.com/videos/ThisIsJohnGaltSpeaking.mp3


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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: blewmeanie]
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I've been wanting to read Ayn Rand for a while, sounds like she's got some interesting ideas. I'm not big on voracious capitalism as a legitimate human value, but I do see the wisdom in some of her ideas as I understand them.

However, she sounds like an intolerable pain in the ass to read, and people who read her books seem to turn into assholes.


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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: Crasher]
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:rolleyes: at all of you


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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: Cakes]
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I can't remember how it ends, but your mothers a whore






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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: Cakes]
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Cakes said:
:rolleyes: at all of you


Elaborate.


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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: Crasher]
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Ayn Rand/Objectivism has a lot of interesting philosophy and such.    I used to belong to an Objectivist club in DC that basically sat around once a month telling each other how cool Ayn Rand is/was.

What got me about her was that she always was talking about how things SHOULD be but never will be.

Also, the whole story of her affair and ugly break up with Nathaniel Branden is, to say the least, very embarrassing.  Add to it that she was supposed to be so elevated and intelligent then it makes me want to barf.

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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: Crasher]
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I can't stand her writing style. I like some of her ideas, but the way she presents them makes me want to stab puppies with a fork. Then some of her ideas and the way she presents them I just plain dislike greatly. I think it's the pretentiousness... she comes off as a major asshole to me. Did I mention her writing is terrible..
Give me Tom Robbins any day and I'm a happy man.. that's all the philosophical fantasy I need.


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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: Shroomism]
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^ agreed about her writing.

I had to read Capitalism:  The Unknown Ideal this summer for my comparative political and economics systems class and it was a HORRIBLE read.  Interesting material, but a horrible read.

I just pulled it off the shelf, cracked open a random page, set my eyes on a random spot, and happen to came upon this short paragraph - which I think is pretty applicable to our current situation:

"Today, the frayed, worn tags of "conservatism" and "liberalism" are cracking up - and what is showing underneath is:  capitalism vs. socialism.

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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: memes]
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wow, very applicable.

I personally really enjoy her writing style. it's different and refreshing. Also, English is not her first language, she is actually Russian I believe.

And hopefully without coming off as some kind of "Ayn Rand can do no wrong" person, I think the affair thing is a bit of a cheap shot. I mean, fuck, we are all humans and have human emotions and reactions. Just because she makes a marital mistake doesn't negate anything she wrote. The words and philosophies are still there on ink and paper.


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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: Syle]
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Honestly, I think those "Ayn Rand is god incarnate" people kind of ruined her for me. It's like she attracts this cult-like following of people who think its the infallible truth of all things and they are right no matter what, that pissed me off more than anything. I don't really find her that offensive, just the hype of her kind of left a bad taste in my mouth. But her writing style still doesn't agree with me - personal taste. And I feel like a lot of her ideas felt like stuff that I would have found mind-blowing in the 6th grade or something... kind of like a watered-down, softcore version of Nietzche.


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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: Shroomism]
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she's the palin of philosophy.


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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: truekimbo2]
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I can see it.


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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: Shroomism]
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im about 300 pages in now. Anthem was wonderful, so far I'm enjoying Atlas, but I think im starting to get a little tired of her philosophy. I certainly understand the point shes making but at this point I feel like shes saying any sort of charity or empathy towards other people is just stupid. All her characters on that side of things sound like fucking morons, which I'm sure is her intent.


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Re: Atlas Shrugged [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
Honestly, I think those "Ayn Rand is god incarnate" people kind of ruined her for me. It's like she attracts this cult-like following of people who think its the infallible truth of all things and they are right no matter what, that pissed me off more than anything. I don't really find her that offensive, just the hype of her kind of left a bad taste in my mouth. But her writing style still doesn't agree with me - personal taste. And I feel like a lot of her ideas felt like stuff that I would have found mind-blowing in the 6th grade or something... kind of like a watered-down, softcore version of Nietzche. 


i 100% agree with you. i feel that same disdain for certaub fellow TOOL fans...!

the reason i appreciate her philosophy is because I actually incorporated her philosophy into my everyday life, and it has greatly improved my mental approach towards life in general, and towards other people.


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