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Binary code found in crop circle
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I found this video on youtube. 
Check out that face too.


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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: postanaldrip]
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You are aware that they figured out the crop circle thing, right? Bunch of guys with plywood and ropes in the middle of the night?

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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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You seriously think that some dudes with boards somehow sketched a three dimensional alien face in a wheat field?  This particular formation has NOT been found to be a hoax.  Along with hundreds of others.  That's not to say that I personally know for a fact that they are real.

There are fakes out there.  I dont deny that.  There is a huge difference though and it doesnt take a very discerning eye to tell which ones could be authentic. 

The preciseness of the symmetry and overall size and complexity of some of these things are mind boggling.

When a video surfaces showing guys with boards producing images on such a huge scale and in ONE night, then I'll believe that all of them are hoaxes.  Until then I will stay open minded. 

Why would hoaxers with wood boards mix in a binary message pertaining to the fate of humanity? 
 
And why are you wasting your time posting such a comment when you have clearly dismissed any chance that this could be real?  Why would you even watch the video?


I dont claim to know the truth behind this, but im sure as hell not going to completely dismiss the possibility that something is going on.  Likewise, I will not dismiss the possibility that they are all a hoax.

Im not trying to convince anybody of anything either.  I just posted the video.  No opinion.

Next time try and refrain from turning your nose up and imposing your obviously biased, and sarcastic opinions, because nobody wants to hear it.  Unless you have proof.  Which you more than likely, dont.


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Edited by postanaldrip (10/10/08 12:50 PM)

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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: postanaldrip]
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Mod Edit: No flaming.

Edited by Middleman (10/10/08 01:12 PM)

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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: postanaldrip]
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I've researched crop circles for 15 years and it seems that some are haoxes and some aren't.

My current theory is that they are generated by humans using secret technology from an underground city near Stonehenge for testing purposes.

There are a lot of reasons to suspect that the one in the video is a hoax but thanks for posting.

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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: Middleman]
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Here's a good link for some Crop Circle history and more recent circles:

http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=409&Itemid=70

Its obvious some are hoaxes, and many others are supernatural.

That's an interesting theory Middleman. I think its light beings (appear as white light orbs) trying to communicate with us and give us information.

Here's a video that supposedly captures the crop circles being made:

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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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RoosterCogburn said:
You are aware that they figured out the crop circle thing, right? Bunch of guys with plywood and ropes in the middle of the night?


The problem with this explanation is that skeptics extrapolate it and use it for all crop circles.  It's like saying "my arm itches.  A mosquito bit my arm.  Therefore, all arms itch because of mosquito bites."  Maybe a cat hair landed on your arm and tickled it.  Or maybe a UFO landed in the crops.  There can be multiple solutions to one problem.  People often exhibit a bias when they choose which answer they want to believe.


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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: jonathanseagull]
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Quote:
jonathanseagull said: People often exhibit a bias when they choose which answer they want to believe.


Yes, yes they do.


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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: deCypher]
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I just err on the side of logical. :shrug:

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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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RoosterCogburn said:
I just err on the side of logical. :shrug:


I would think it would be more logical to entertain the possibility that we don't have all the answers. This is another failure of the skeptic community.

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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: axis_bal]
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axis_bal said:
RoosterCogburn said:
I just err on the side of logical. :shrug:


I would think it would be more logical to entertain the possibility that we don't have all the answers. This is another failure of the skeptic community.


QFT.

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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: axis_bal]
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axis_bal said:
RoosterCogburn said:
I just err on the side of logical. :shrug:


I would think it would be more logical to entertain the possibility that we don't have all the answers. This is another failure of the skeptic community.



Huh?  We should presume a random theory is correct cuz we don't have all the answers?

Or are you literally only saying what you said.  That's fine, presume, but how does that trasfer any weight to an argument without sufficent evidence?

Oh, it does have sufficent evidence you say?  Yes, that is what we're arguing about, not how logic and presuming we have few answers go together.

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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: postanaldrip]
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postanaldrip said:
You seriously think that some dudes with boards somehow sketched a three dimensional alien face in a wheat field?  This particular formation has NOT been found to be a hoax.  Along with hundreds of others.  That's not to say that I personally know for a fact that they are real.

There are fakes out there.  I dont deny that.  There is a huge difference though and it doesnt take a very discerning eye to tell which ones could be authentic. 

The preciseness of the symmetry and overall size and complexity of some of these things are mind boggling.

When a video surfaces showing guys with boards producing images on such a huge scale and in ONE night, then I'll believe that all of them are hoaxes.  Until then I will stay open minded. 

Why would hoaxers with wood boards mix in a binary message pertaining to the fate of humanity? 
 
And why are you wasting your time posting such a comment when you have clearly dismissed any chance that this could be real?  Why would you even watch the video?


I dont claim to know the truth behind this, but im sure as hell not going to completely dismiss the possibility that something is going on.  Likewise, I will not dismiss the possibility that they are all a hoax.

Im not trying to convince anybody of anything either.  I just posted the video.  No opinion.

Next time try and refrain from turning your nose up and imposing your obviously biased, and sarcastic opinions, because nobody wants to hear it.  Unless you have proof.  Which you more than likely, dont.




who says this happened in one nite?  what proof do you have?

why couldn't these people have taken days or weeks to do this, and then filmed it themselves?  in a remote enough location, it's plausible that no low-flying, let alone filming aircraft would have come across it


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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: demiu5]
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First hand eyewitness testimony is the best we've got.  Which, unfortunately isn't proof, its hearsay. The interviews are out there if you want to do the research.

I would imagine that a lot of these land owners are viewing or inspecting their crops on a regular and probably daily basis.
 
If you woke up one morning and all of a sudden there is a crop circle chilling where there was normal crop the day before, what other conclusion could you reach than that it was formed in a short amount of time?

And by the way, Ive already stated that I have an open mind and view this unbiasedly.  So, ya, it is possible that some of them are done over a span of time without anybody knowing. Why does it feel like I have to keep defending a position that i never took in the first place?

Take into consideration that these things are all over the globe and have a history that dates back quite a ways. 

Take into consideration the genetic alteration of the crops themselves. The way the stalks are all bent and not broken, like a board would do. 

Take into consideration their growing complexity, both cosmologically and mathematically in nature.  The deeper meaning and messages behind these things are astounding.

I understand asking skeptical questions, it needs to be done.  But it really seems like you and a lot of others are just trying to take some kind of stance that you have no chance of holding.  Because you, just like me, HAVE NO PROOF.


Edited by postanaldrip (10/12/08 02:01 AM)

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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: johnm214]
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johnm214 said:
axis_bal said:
RoosterCogburn said:
I just err on the side of logical. :shrug:


I would think it would be more logical to entertain the possibility that we don't have all the answers. This is another failure of the skeptic community.



Huh?  We should presume a random theory is correct cuz we don't have all the answers?

Or are you literally only saying what you said.  That's fine, presume, but how does that trasfer any weight to an argument without sufficient evidence?

Oh, it does have sufficient evidence you say?  Yes, that is what we're arguing about, not how logic and presuming we have few answers go together.


People who are unbiased or open-minded are willing to discuss any idea thats tossed out on the table. Nothing is ruled out, therefore it is open to discussion.

Close minded people automatically dismiss a possibility on grounds of circumstantial evidence, and probability.

Just because something is unlikely does not mean its is impossible. Just because you can't explain something, does not mean the most likely possibility is the correct one.

A true scientist, and open minded person, will allow for any possible scenario as a potential explanation, and will do his best to explore the situation and eliminate those scenarios which have been proven to be erroneous.


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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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RoosterCogburn said:
You are aware that they figured out the crop circle thing, right? Bunch of guys with plywood and ropes in the middle of the night?


Haha..

Silly you..

Go find out; Have anyone ever been caught making one?

Or is there only people claiming they made one, who show how they made it? And have you compared them? ..

Sorry.. You really should look this up..

Sure people try to claim, and make fakes one. But, why has no one ever been caught red handed?

Muse on it, ..  Please?

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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: Gomp]
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I think its because they are done in the middle of nowhere. In my opinion they are done by highly intelligent people who have a interest in geometry as well as an amazing precision when it comes to measuring out and actually implementing the crop circles. Designs of this nature are not unheard of in occult symbols and geometric artworks. I couldn't imagine aliens using this as a way to communicate, it so abstract and inefficient. If they wanted to talk to us i think they would be more clear and direct.

But who knows, perhaps some of them are the work of aliens, i certainly hope so because i think its about time for humans to be taken down a peg or two.

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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: BrainChemistry]
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yeah, I agree, that's what I'm saying


That something is unknown means nothing as to the liklihood of a competing group of theories.


I was just saying that if that guy was using the fact that we don't know certain things to buttress a claim of paranormal activity that it was a poor argument- it doesn't tend to demonstrate anything.

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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: DimensionX]
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DimensionX said:
I think its because they are done in the middle of nowhere. In my opinion they are done by highly intelligent people who have a interest in geometry as well as an amazing precision when it comes to measuring out and actually implementing the crop circles. Designs of this nature are not unheard of in occult symbols and geometric artworks. I couldn't imagine aliens using this as a way to communicate, it so abstract and inefficient. If they wanted to talk to us i think they would be more clear and direct.

But who knows, perhaps some of them are the work of aliens, i certainly hope so because i think its about time for humans to be taken down a peg or two.


Agreed :thumbup:

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Re: Binary code found in crop circle [Re: Ego Death]
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Sadly, I just think some people WANT to believe so badly for whatever reason, and human imagination is too incredible... I mean that I err on the side of logic as in 'IF aliens came here, WHY would they waste time bending wheat?'.

Humans CAN do it. Humans have admitted doing it. Humans have been filmed doing it. It's become more complicated over a human timeline of 40 or so years.

When an 10 square mile mountainside is ground into a pattern overnight, I'll think super advanced aliens. :shrug:

I mean for having technology advanced enough to evade detection and fly a trillion miles, they sure are pretty boring.

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