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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Robo]
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i have had many an expereince where the scerene quality of the come down is almost too much to bear

some times it feels as the my perseption is orbiting around my head in space

other times like i am tie died into the fabric of eternity



its quite the amazing thing to take a breath and discover your world anew :mushroomgrow:


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Robo]
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Omni said:
Only downside to smoking I think is...dmt vapor really can't be that good for you, can it?

I thought about this and there's probably left over solvent etc. if you extracted,  and the dmt vapor itself even if you get it pure cant be that great.

Every time I've done it I felt like I was being really mean to my poor lungs :tongue:



Well, solvent vapor shouldn't be a problem if the spice was properly dried.

But yeah, the DMT vapor can't be that nice for the lungs... but I don't know that it's really that bad either.  I'd guess it's no worse than smoking cannabis.  And personally, I've done enough smoking in my life that a little DMT is the least of my lungs' worries :ohwell:

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Entropymancer]
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Yeah, I was coughing up a lot of weird-tasting shit last night after I finished smoking the DMT. It's definitely not entirely lung-friendly.

But I smoke cigarettes every day, and I really can't imagine the occasional DMT-toking is worse by any means, even if there are trace solvents stuck in there.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


Edited by Tchan909 (09/25/08 10:17 PM)

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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I admit, the ickiness of naphtha makes the following tek a bit more appetizing; acetone and water are the only solvents.

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The tek:

1) dissolve 5g of citric acid per 100ml acetone

2) take the shredded/powdered bark and cover it with enough citric-acid saturated acetone. Incubate in a warm place, gently agitating every so often. After 2-3 hours, filter off the citric-acid saturated acetone extract and set aside (this solution should have acquired the dark reddish colour of MHRB). Repeat 2 more times.

3) saturate acetone with fumaric acid. Acetone can hold ~20mg/ml fumaric acid if let for a day or so to completely dissolve.

4) Add the fumaric acid-saturated acetone in the citric acid-saturated acetone MHRB extract. One cannot put too much.

5) Set it aside and wait for 2-3 days. One should see a yellowish precipitate on the bottom.

NOTE: In step 2 one is making an acetone extraction and at the same time converting the alkaloids their citrate salt. After addition of the fumaric acid-saturated acetone in step 4, there is an interconversion of alkaloid-citrate to alkaloid-fumarate salt, like:

dmt-citrate <-> dmt-fumarate

citric acid has a pKa of 3.13, while fumaric acid's pka is 3.43. Fumaric acid is a weaker acid and thus in the above reaction one should have most of the dmt as a citrate salt and just a tiny amount as a fumarate salt. dmt-fumarate however is totally insoluble in acetone (while dmt-citrate is perfectly soluble), and it precipitates as soon as it forms. The insolubility of dmt-fumarate acts therefore as a "sink" and given time all of the dmt-citrate will eventually convert to dmt-fumarate and precipitate out.

6) wash the precipitated fumarate salts with acetone, then take them out and let them dry.

7) dissolve the alkaloid-fumarate salts in 5ml of tap water, then and then add saturated sodium carbonate to make the solution basic. The alkaloids will be freebased and the solution will become milky. In 3 days they will precipitate out forming nice needle-like crystal in the basic solution. At this stage, one can filter the solution (nasty procedure since the crystals tend to be sticky and waxy) and retrieve any left alkaloids by dissolving them in acetone.

8) Let the crystals dry, wash them with acetone (it removes any traces of sodium corbonate which is totally insoluble in acetone), evaporate the acetone and enjoy the product.



(http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=68002)

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Me being a non-smoker besides cannabis I'm just wondering

Also won't even be smoking that anymore as I'm moving to trying vaporizer only...

So... I wonder how bad it really is for you, never gave it too much thought or tried to look it up, it feels pretty bad tho....chemical vapor burning my lungs. I wonder if it's slightly carcinogenic in any way, never know :ohwell:

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Entropymancer]
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Very interesting, I'll have to save that for my next extraction...


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Robo]
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If you havn't already read DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Rick Strassman. His new book Inner Paths to Outer Space: Journeys to Alien Worlds through Psychedelics and Other Spiritual Technologies is amazing too.

Really opens your eyes to Spirituality and the amazing world we live in,

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Entropymancer]
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Hmm cool. Naphtha is indeed icky I would like to substitute it with something else next time around maybe I'll do that.

Now to find a better solvent for mesc extraction, xylene and toluene are both carcinogenic I know for sure :lipsrsealed:

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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I'm jealous.  I only got to smoke DMT once, and it was mind-blowing, especially because Shpongle was guiding my trip.  My initial apprehensiveness towards the experience dissipated within moments of blasting off, and it was beautiful, and supremely alien.  I can't wait to get the chance to try it again ...


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So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. - Galatians 5:16

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: HB]
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Shpongle is good for DMT. My soundtrack last night was a friend messing around with a Moog synthesizer, that was pretty incredible.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Tchan909 said:
Shpongle is good for DMT. My soundtrack last night was a friend messing around with a Moog synthesizer, that was pretty incredible.



That's awesome.  Moogs are way fun, and I couldn't imagine one on DMT!

How do you feel today?  Any different?


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So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. - Galatians 5:16

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: HB]
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Well, I've got a speed hangover. :lol: To be honest my reason for smoking the DMT was my friend came over with a tiny amount of speed and shared it with me. I don't really ever do the stuff but he wanted to kill it with somebody. As soon as we finished that shit, and I had that speed rush, I said, "I need to put this glass pipe to better use!!!" and without fear I smoked all the DMT I could scrape up. So I sort of had that energized jaw-clenching speed comedown as well, but it wasn't so bad I couldn't sleep.

Generally I think speed is a dirty drug, but I'm open-minded and I appreciate what the speed did for me last night - it allowed me to explore DMT again. It kind of crushed my apprehension. I've been terrified of DMT for months, and for no very good reason.

I feel really good today, though. I love psychedelic afterglows, they make your entire life feel like a cuddly blanket. :sun:


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


Edited by Tchan909 (09/26/08 12:19 AM)

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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wow


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Tchan909 said:
My soundtrack last night was a friend messing around with a Moog synthesizer, that was pretty incredible.



nice.

I have a micromoog, it's definitely an expressive instrument


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"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is just poetry, imagination." ~Max Planck

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said:
I get a boner reading about DMT.




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