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smoked some DMT last night
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For the first time in months. I managed to scare myself off DMT for a while through carelessness, but I forgot how fundamentally pleasant an experience it is.

Didn't break through, but I did get knocked on my ass by hyperkinetic super-colored cartoon-vision, and the feeling of a wormhole wired throughout my body. Good times.

And what a perfectly relaxing comedown.

I love DMT. :yesnod:


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


Edited by Tchan909 (09/25/08 08:51 PM)

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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2 more hits after there


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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I haven't smoked DMT in about 3 months but I'm definitely ready to go there again as soon as this sore throat of mine is cleared up for a bit.  I hadn't even taken it out for 3 months but the other night we got home from a party and a new friend wanted to try it so I loaded the gun for him and watched him blow his mind away..made me really want to go there again.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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i smoked some a few nights ago while in a fairy house on mushrooms

i met a crazy feathered reptile being
then i did so much n2o i reached the death relm

it was drippy
and dark

real drippy


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: notapillow]
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I get high reading about DMT.

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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dmt
















































everything else


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"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is just poetry, imagination." ~Max Planck

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: piracetam]
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Seriously though. I've done my fair share of drugs by now but there's nothing like that cosmic DMT rush. It used to just scare the shit out of me. It still does but I love it too.

I've only had one breakthrough on it, Jesus H. Christ. I was trying to get there last night but I didn't quite make it. I need to get some fresh rootbark.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Tchan909 said:
I managed to scare myself off DMT for a while through carelessness



That's about where I am at this point in time. :crazy:

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Robo]
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Haha, yeah, DMT can kick your ass like no other. My first breakthrough scared me shitless, and I had another not-quite-breakthrough trip shortly after that one which was, to sum it up, EXTREMELY unpleasant.

A lot of the anxiety I had previously is gone now, simply because I've had time to properly absorb all those outrageous experiences, and I now have something vaguely resembling familiarity with the drug.

Edited by Tchan909 (09/25/08 09:19 PM)

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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the only DMT experience i ever had was sniffing those god awful yopo seeds.....is it comparable to breaking through on salvia? how long does it last?

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: MaFiaDC]
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there's much more going on in a dmt flash, and it's about the same duration


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"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is just poetry, imagination." ~Max Planck

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: MaFiaDC]
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The DMT breakthrough is far more vivid than the salvia breakthrough. If the salvia breakthrough is kind of dim and vague, the DMT breakthrough has floodlights on and feels more real than anything you've actually experienced in real life. It lasts up to a half hour, though the comedown is pretty odd - you'll be back in touch with normal reality but still sort of immersed in DMT space. The whole experience is paradoxically relaxing; I feel so tranquil and peaceful while I'm coming down, which isn't the way I'd expect to feel after such madness.

I kinda want to try yopo someday though, sounds pretty different from N,N-DMT.


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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I took a bunch orally, then took more when it wasn't hitting me. By the time it was about to hit I decided 'what the hell' and put alot in the pipe and hit it. both oral doses kicked in right about then plus the super fast rush from smoking, shot like a bullet into complete madness and insanity.

I was careless and it did definitely kick my ass. It was very scary. Bad idea. :crazy:

Haven't touched it since then.

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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I want to try some. I've never had any(can't say that often).

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Robo]
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Omni said:
I took a bunch orally, then took more when it wasn't hitting me. By the time it was about to hit I decided 'what the hell' and put alot in the pipe and hit it. both oral doses kicked in right about then plus the super fast rush from smoking, shot like a bullet into complete madness and insanity.

I was careless and it did definitely kick my ass. It was very scary. Bad idea. :crazy:

Haven't touched it since then.



Holy crap that sounds intense. I've only smoked it meself, I just happened to get way too casual about it and ended up smoking at totally retarded moments of my life. For example, it's generally a good idea not to be drunk and depressed when you hit that shit.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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I prefer smoking it. I don't think you are missing much.

Oral just lasts way too long. Smoking is a cooler experience, the crazy come-up and rush is an important part of the whole dmt thing imo, something you don't get with ayahuasca etc.  Smoking is just an oral trip packed into 20-30 minutes and super crazzzy of course, whoo :laugh:

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Robo]
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Yeah, if I could compare DMT to anything else I've done it's like a mushroom trip packed into half an hour. But not really, it does a lot of stuff mushrooms don't. "Cartoon vision" is really the best way I can describe an intense non-breakthrough DMT trip, and I've never gotten it with shrooms. I've literally seen my living room transformed into a Super Mario level.

I do want to try ayahuasca someday, though. I just wouldn't want to do it without an experienced guide.


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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I love DMT.  I've never got cartoon vision, but I could see where it might go that way.  I get intense brightly colored fractal kaleidoscope on low doses; on high doses I end up in that cosmic space, it feels like the house of the cosmos... my first time there I got a very bumpy tour guided by a feline/reptile being.

And that feeling of calm and reintegration coming down... bliss.

@MafiaDC: There's no DMT in (most) yopo; the yopo experience is primarily bufotenine, and really isn't much like DMT at all.  It's primarily visual, with only hints of psychedelic undertones.  Very meditative though.

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Entropymancer]
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Yeah, the tranquility of the comedown surprises me every time. I always feel so deeply content.

Fractals are a part of "cartoon vision." I can't really describe it; I'll be looking at something with my eyes open, and I'll know what I'm actually looking at, but at the same time it's moving all over the place, like a grid of train tracks running completely bizarre unreal trains at lightspeed. This is when I'm looking at a scene that is standing completely still.

The most memorable aspect of it for me, though, is the way colors and lighting look. Everything is incredibly bright and shiny, and the colors are something you might call oversaturated. It's incredibly intense, but beautiful as well.

I can't wait until my next session.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Entropymancer]
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Only downside to smoking I think is...dmt vapor really can't be that good for you, can it?

I thought about this and there's probably left over solvent etc. if you extracted,  and the dmt vapor itself even if you get it pure cant be that great.

Every time I've done it I felt like I was being really mean to my poor lungs :tongue:

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Robo]
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i have had many an expereince where the scerene quality of the come down is almost too much to bear

some times it feels as the my perseption is orbiting around my head in space

other times like i am tie died into the fabric of eternity



its quite the amazing thing to take a breath and discover your world anew :mushroomgrow:


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Robo]
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Omni said:
Only downside to smoking I think is...dmt vapor really can't be that good for you, can it?

I thought about this and there's probably left over solvent etc. if you extracted,  and the dmt vapor itself even if you get it pure cant be that great.

Every time I've done it I felt like I was being really mean to my poor lungs :tongue:



Well, solvent vapor shouldn't be a problem if the spice was properly dried.

But yeah, the DMT vapor can't be that nice for the lungs... but I don't know that it's really that bad either.  I'd guess it's no worse than smoking cannabis.  And personally, I've done enough smoking in my life that a little DMT is the least of my lungs' worries :ohwell:

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Entropymancer]
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Yeah, I was coughing up a lot of weird-tasting shit last night after I finished smoking the DMT. It's definitely not entirely lung-friendly.

But I smoke cigarettes every day, and I really can't imagine the occasional DMT-toking is worse by any means, even if there are trace solvents stuck in there.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


Edited by Tchan909 (09/25/08 10:17 PM)

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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I admit, the ickiness of naphtha makes the following tek a bit more appetizing; acetone and water are the only solvents.

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The tek:

1) dissolve 5g of citric acid per 100ml acetone

2) take the shredded/powdered bark and cover it with enough citric-acid saturated acetone. Incubate in a warm place, gently agitating every so often. After 2-3 hours, filter off the citric-acid saturated acetone extract and set aside (this solution should have acquired the dark reddish colour of MHRB). Repeat 2 more times.

3) saturate acetone with fumaric acid. Acetone can hold ~20mg/ml fumaric acid if let for a day or so to completely dissolve.

4) Add the fumaric acid-saturated acetone in the citric acid-saturated acetone MHRB extract. One cannot put too much.

5) Set it aside and wait for 2-3 days. One should see a yellowish precipitate on the bottom.

NOTE: In step 2 one is making an acetone extraction and at the same time converting the alkaloids their citrate salt. After addition of the fumaric acid-saturated acetone in step 4, there is an interconversion of alkaloid-citrate to alkaloid-fumarate salt, like:

dmt-citrate <-> dmt-fumarate

citric acid has a pKa of 3.13, while fumaric acid's pka is 3.43. Fumaric acid is a weaker acid and thus in the above reaction one should have most of the dmt as a citrate salt and just a tiny amount as a fumarate salt. dmt-fumarate however is totally insoluble in acetone (while dmt-citrate is perfectly soluble), and it precipitates as soon as it forms. The insolubility of dmt-fumarate acts therefore as a "sink" and given time all of the dmt-citrate will eventually convert to dmt-fumarate and precipitate out.

6) wash the precipitated fumarate salts with acetone, then take them out and let them dry.

7) dissolve the alkaloid-fumarate salts in 5ml of tap water, then and then add saturated sodium carbonate to make the solution basic. The alkaloids will be freebased and the solution will become milky. In 3 days they will precipitate out forming nice needle-like crystal in the basic solution. At this stage, one can filter the solution (nasty procedure since the crystals tend to be sticky and waxy) and retrieve any left alkaloids by dissolving them in acetone.

8) Let the crystals dry, wash them with acetone (it removes any traces of sodium corbonate which is totally insoluble in acetone), evaporate the acetone and enjoy the product.



(http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=68002)

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Me being a non-smoker besides cannabis I'm just wondering

Also won't even be smoking that anymore as I'm moving to trying vaporizer only...

So... I wonder how bad it really is for you, never gave it too much thought or tried to look it up, it feels pretty bad tho....chemical vapor burning my lungs. I wonder if it's slightly carcinogenic in any way, never know :ohwell:

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Entropymancer]
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Very interesting, I'll have to save that for my next extraction...


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Robo]
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If you havn't already read DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Rick Strassman. His new book Inner Paths to Outer Space: Journeys to Alien Worlds through Psychedelics and Other Spiritual Technologies is amazing too.

Really opens your eyes to Spirituality and the amazing world we live in,

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Entropymancer]
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Hmm cool. Naphtha is indeed icky I would like to substitute it with something else next time around maybe I'll do that.

Now to find a better solvent for mesc extraction, xylene and toluene are both carcinogenic I know for sure :lipsrsealed:

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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I'm jealous.  I only got to smoke DMT once, and it was mind-blowing, especially because Shpongle was guiding my trip.  My initial apprehensiveness towards the experience dissipated within moments of blasting off, and it was beautiful, and supremely alien.  I can't wait to get the chance to try it again ...


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So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. - Galatians 5:16

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: HB]
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Shpongle is good for DMT. My soundtrack last night was a friend messing around with a Moog synthesizer, that was pretty incredible.


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You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Tchan909 said:
Shpongle is good for DMT. My soundtrack last night was a friend messing around with a Moog synthesizer, that was pretty incredible.



That's awesome.  Moogs are way fun, and I couldn't imagine one on DMT!

How do you feel today?  Any different?


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So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. - Galatians 5:16

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: HB]
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Well, I've got a speed hangover. :lol: To be honest my reason for smoking the DMT was my friend came over with a tiny amount of speed and shared it with me. I don't really ever do the stuff but he wanted to kill it with somebody. As soon as we finished that shit, and I had that speed rush, I said, "I need to put this glass pipe to better use!!!" and without fear I smoked all the DMT I could scrape up. So I sort of had that energized jaw-clenching speed comedown as well, but it wasn't so bad I couldn't sleep.

Generally I think speed is a dirty drug, but I'm open-minded and I appreciate what the speed did for me last night - it allowed me to explore DMT again. It kind of crushed my apprehension. I've been terrified of DMT for months, and for no very good reason.

I feel really good today, though. I love psychedelic afterglows, they make your entire life feel like a cuddly blanket. :sun:


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


Edited by Tchan909 (09/26/08 12:19 AM)

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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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wow


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Tchan909 said:
My soundtrack last night was a friend messing around with a Moog synthesizer, that was pretty incredible.



nice.

I have a micromoog, it's definitely an expressive instrument


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Re: smoked some DMT last night [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said:
I get a boner reading about DMT.




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