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Outdoor Patch - when to start?
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Okay so a friend of mine wants to use his spent cakes to spawn outdoor patches eventually, but his cakes won't be in existence until a month or two from now. So here goes:

1. What are the coldest temps that cubensis can survive at outside over the winter?

2. What geographic zone in the USA would be the "dead-zone" for cubensis patches? Meaning, what is the cut-off point for outdoor patches that will survive through the winter? (Hardiness Zones Map)

3. When do you ideally start an outdoor patch? Also when is it acceptable to start patches late/early, given lower yields and/or waiting for next year before fruits appear?


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>>::(My Garden - Updated 6-16-09!)::<<
(Nelumbo Nucifera) - (Desmanthus Illinois) - (Delosperma Cooperi)
(Coleus) - (Morning Glory H.B.) - (Klip Dagga) - (Nicotiana Rustica)
(Sinicuichi) - (Mimosa Hostilis)

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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: demonicaeroponic]
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zones 7 to 8, u start patches early, I make giant bags of sub that is pre-colonized and layer it in the ground, that way by the time it warms up to fruiting temps they are totally recovered and ready to go. So i start my patches in mid-may but in my climate they dont survive the winter on the other hand my old azure patch went for 3 years strong, it fruited the same weeks all 3 years.
Cakes are not the best spawn for outdoor grows because you will needs tons of spawn and sub to just get a reasonable harvest. I knock up 50lbs of corn cob bedding/feed you can get it in most stores, then spawn to 250lbs of hpoo/straw/zoo mix(my sis is a vet at a zoo so she gets me anything. any other questions?


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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
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Yes, In zones 5 to 6 would it be feasible to mix spent cakes into wood/grass clippings pile this time of the year?

basically, my friend doesn't want to just waste cakes and throw them in trash. Would they do anything if put outside during the cold? would they keep until next year and then possibly produce after heavy spring rains?


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My Kratom Experience

>>::(My Garden - Updated 6-16-09!)::<<
(Nelumbo Nucifera) - (Desmanthus Illinois) - (Delosperma Cooperi)
(Coleus) - (Morning Glory H.B.) - (Klip Dagga) - (Nicotiana Rustica)
(Sinicuichi) - (Mimosa Hostilis)

Edited by demonicaeroponic (08/30/08 05:09 AM)

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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: demonicaeroponic]
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Try it if you want but im just letting you know the odds are slim to none, if you really want to start outdoor patches in that climate you have to grow the azure strain, it is the only strain that actually relies on the cold to fruit and it is the most potent.


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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
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well, your sig seems to suggest azure prints are hard to come by... know of any places to procure them?

also, you might add me to your sig as wanting a copy of any prints =)

(that way you remember to send me a print once you find some hehe)


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My Kratom Experience

>>::(My Garden - Updated 6-16-09!)::<<
(Nelumbo Nucifera) - (Desmanthus Illinois) - (Delosperma Cooperi)
(Coleus) - (Morning Glory H.B.) - (Klip Dagga) - (Nicotiana Rustica)
(Sinicuichi) - (Mimosa Hostilis)

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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: demonicaeroponic]
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You can order azures but you can usually trade some exotics for the prints, I lost all my prints to a crazy bitch gf that burned alot of my shit in a big bonfire NO JOKE. Well ya, get some experience with cubes and pans first because azures are very hard and you need to hone your skills first.


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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8851018 -

i got a azure syringe from ralphsters a little less than 2 weeks ago. Great guy to work with, he held onto it for me. They might still have some, just email him. and he has the cheapest price for them too!


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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: spazn420]
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Ya I know but im looking for like 2 or 3 prints, Im looking to isolate 100 isolates on agar plates and compare genetics, its for research not for the harvest.


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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8851038 -

I see. Well my friend plans on doing a few rounds of cubes and pans first anyways, and I'm going to attempt some stipicus =)


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My Kratom Experience

>>::(My Garden - Updated 6-16-09!)::<<
(Nelumbo Nucifera) - (Desmanthus Illinois) - (Delosperma Cooperi)
(Coleus) - (Morning Glory H.B.) - (Klip Dagga) - (Nicotiana Rustica)
(Sinicuichi) - (Mimosa Hostilis)

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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: demonicaeroponic]
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Good get some work with agar and isolations and then you should be set.


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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
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agar = too expensive at the moment, and I'd rather not try it anyways without a flowhood, which is even more expensive.

Maybe sometime in a month or so.


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My Kratom Experience

>>::(My Garden - Updated 6-16-09!)::<<
(Nelumbo Nucifera) - (Desmanthus Illinois) - (Delosperma Cooperi)
(Coleus) - (Morning Glory H.B.) - (Klip Dagga) - (Nicotiana Rustica)
(Sinicuichi) - (Mimosa Hostilis)

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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: demonicaeroponic]
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You can grow in zones 5 and 6, dunno about them surviving winter.  If they cant just start a new bed every year.  Id say when the ground thaws for good from winter and temps dont drop below freezing is a good time to get your bed ready.  If your really worried about mice and all the other vermin, make your bed in some sorts of planter.


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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
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TheShroomJew23 said:
You can order azures but you can usually trade some exotics for the prints, I lost all my prints to a crazy bitch gf that burned alot of my shit in a big bonfire NO JOKE. Well ya, get some experience with cubes and pans first because azures are very hard and you need to hone your skills first.


Not to throw the post off topic.... Care to explain a little about your pyromaniac ex-girlfriend!  That is just hilarious, in a sh!tty way!


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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: Mycowlogist]
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im in zone 5 and i started a bed 3 weeks ago and have not seen fruits yet but i will post pics when i see em. i really doubt the mycelium would survive the winter. (anyone know?)


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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: Phish_Dude]
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Seems to me you should just try it anyway to see if it works.  Why waste them in the trash if there is even a slim possibility of it wintering?  Cover it with some sort of mulch--grass clippings, straw, even cardboard-- before the ground starts to freeze.  I have seen posts on here about myc being frozen and thawed and then grown out on agar.  So if it doesn't fruit before winter, the covering should give it a little food come spring when it rains.

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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: kiddd038]
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From that chart your posted it looks like WA is in zone 8... Is it really possible to grow cubes outdoors in the PNW?

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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: chinabean]
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Isn't the PNW the freaking mushroom capital of the US!?!

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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: drwatson]
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Cubes are a gulf coast and semi-tropic strain, usually. Pans and Azures and many other potent shrooms grow all over the PNW just waiting for you to eat them.


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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: demonicaeroponic]
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I live in zone 5 too. gonna try outdoor spawn next year. too late this year so I'm just growing inside but thanks for this thread I'm researching for next year and this has all been very helpful


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Re: Outdoor Patch - when to start? [Re: bigshroom53]
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Apparently we both need to look into outdoor pan cyan grows, as they would be acceptable in zone 5 as shroomjew has informed me.

My friend will still be putting cakes outside in shallow graves to see if they go dormant as would be expected since you can indeed refrigerate cakes for months at a time.

(Although nobody is sure if spent cakes will last all winter like a fresh unflushed cake would, so I suppose I'll write up some conclusionary posts to the effect if my friends experiments go in a favorable direction)


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My Kratom Experience

>>::(My Garden - Updated 6-16-09!)::<<
(Nelumbo Nucifera) - (Desmanthus Illinois) - (Delosperma Cooperi)
(Coleus) - (Morning Glory H.B.) - (Klip Dagga) - (Nicotiana Rustica)
(Sinicuichi) - (Mimosa Hostilis)

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