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Offlinekykeon
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Can someone identify this shroom? :)
    #837160 - 08/23/02 12:36 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Well my bro found it this morning in a yard. Its 10 cm height and it growed all in one night...



Can someone identify it, or at least give a try? Is it edible? It smells good known shroomy smell...

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Re: Can someone identify this shroom? :) [Re: kykeon]
    #837202 - 08/23/02 01:37 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yes! They are called 'yellow-staining mushrooms' in Australia and they are highly poisonous for the same reasons that Death-caps are


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Re: Can someone identify this shroom? :) [Re: kykeon]
    #837352 - 08/23/02 05:31 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

As always, a spore print would be of great help. Just looking at it, the appearance of the ring suggests Leucoagaricus naucina, although it could also be an Agaricus. Get a spore print.


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Re: Can someone identify this shroom? :) [Re: ToxicMan]
    #837369 - 08/23/02 05:44 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

unfortunately the cap is still close as you see on the photo. I wish my bro knew he should cut it a few hours later. But anyway, i will try to take a print and post a pic.

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Re: Can someone identify this shroom? :) [Re: kykeon]
    #837922 - 08/23/02 10:49 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yellow Staining Mushroom, Agaricus xanthodermus - It can cause quite severe digestive disturbances so should not be eaten.


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Re: Can someone identify this shroom? :) [Re: kykeon]
    #838029 - 08/23/02 11:41 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

If the gills darken, we will need to know about the odor and any bruising reaction, especially near the base of the stem. Given the number of people who think it's Agaricus xanthodermus, you should check. Cut the stem in half vertically, then use your knife to abuse the cut flesh near the base of the stem. If it is Agaricus xanthodermus, the flesh will bruise strongly yellow (watch for a couple minutes). You should also smell the base of the stem after you bruise it - A. xanthodermus usually smells strongly of phenol (or library paste, or a metallic smell).


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Re: Can someone identify this shroom? :) [Re: RemiMartin]
    #838801 - 08/23/02 06:53 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

In AUstralia it stains strongly yellow and is regarded as highly poisonous


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Re: Can someone identify this shroom? :) [Re: kykeon]
    #839185 - 08/23/02 09:20 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

if it is an A. xanthodermus be forewarned, they have been known to cause violent bleeding diarrhea.


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Re: Can someone identify this shroom? :) [Re: ToxicMan]
    #839324 - 08/23/02 10:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Hello all.

it seems that TOXICMAN earns the prize of a good mushroom rating.
imho he is right, its a LEUCOAGARICUS NAUCINUS; apart from what you can also see in the following picture, this mushroom was found on grass and it also fits the season and the size. Also if it is bruised, it turns brown not yellow. The smell is not of something bad; i think it smells similar to agaricus bisporus. My conclusion doesnt mean i am going to eat it though; there is no reason to do it.



any other opinions will be much appreciated!!! sorry for the bad quality of the pic, it is scanned on a agfa flatbed scanner... the gills remained white after the dropping of spores. why? because the spores are white... lol

T H A N X T O A L L !!!

idea: how about having contests in mushroom identification? that may be a cool idea... as i see there are too many people in here who know so much about the identification of those little creatures!

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    #839609 - 08/24/02 02:59 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Can someone identify this shroom? :) [Re: kykeon]
    #839628 - 08/24/02 03:46 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I would swear that the original picture was of Agaricus xanthodermus


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Re: Can someone identify this shroom? :) [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #839988 - 08/24/02 08:43 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Well thats what i found on the hiddenforest site:
http://www.hiddenforest.co.nz

Species: Leucoagaricus naucinus (Fr.) Singer
Completely off-white with a bulbous base. Bruises brown when damaged
Synonyms: Lepiota naucina, L leucothites
Common Name: Smooth parasol
Found: Grassy places, side of road, lawns, parks etc.
Substrate: Ground
Spore: White
Height: 80 mm
Width: 55 mm
Season: Late summer to early winter
Edible: Yes, can be easily confused with one of the poisonous Amanitas

The pic is a direct link to the hiddenforest site


It seems to me that this description is very well close to the first pic i uploaded dont you think? especially the "easily confused" part.

The reason i make the link to this pic is because i think the mushroom that was found is a Leucoagaricus naucinus and i want to show how differently might an amateur's pic look like when compared to those "encyclopaedic" pictures found on the net or color books.

Btw those sites are very cool, but unfortunately it is very difficult to search from scratch, imho

Have a nice weekend !

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Re: Can someone identify this shroom? :) [Re: kykeon]
    #839993 - 08/24/02 08:48 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

In reply to:

Those sites are very cool, but unfortunately it is very difficult to search from scratch, imho





Very true I find. Thats why a decent book on mushrooms in your area is priceless.


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Re: Can someone identify this shroom? :) [Re: RemiMartin]
    #840526 - 08/24/02 02:14 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, i do have a picture book for YOUR area [uk] lol but the only greek books available are so primitive... imagine that they describe paneolus mushrooms as dangerous because they contain psilocybin which can cause death to humans... whatever... but there are some pics there, i am not saying that those books are completely useless, its just that they offer so little and some of the knowledge in there is wrong and i know that, even if i am amateur, so can i trust 100% the info i dont know?

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